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Ruto OWES TNA/central a political debt in 2022
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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When TNA and URP came together the agreement was very clear. They would share power on 50/50 basis and Ohuru would lead the team for the 1st 10yrs and then Ruto takes over for the other 10yrs. Now that Ohuru will be finishing his term and has shared power 50/50 as per the agreement, in 2022 when Ruto becomes president he must respect the agreement and give TNA nusu mkate of government. Thus Ruto owes TNA (and central) a political debt in 2022, in the form of 50% of his govt, which he should pay.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Don't count your chics before they hatch. Hii game inawezwa chezwa ushangae what happened! i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:When TNA and URP came together the agreement was very clear. They would share power on 50/50 basis and Ohuru would lead the team for the 1st 10yrs and then Ruto takes over for the other 10yrs. Now that Ohuru will be finishing his term and has shared power 50/50 as per the agreement, in 2022 when Ruto becomes president he must respect the agreement and give TNA nusu mkate of government. Thus Ruto owes TNA (and central) a political debt in 2022, in the form of 50% of his govt, which he should pay. I agree. He must and he has to demonstrate and make it clear before the 2022 elections. First is by offering Kindiki the VP position as a sign of goodwill.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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2012 wrote:hardwood wrote:When TNA and URP came together the agreement was very clear. They would share power on 50/50 basis and Ohuru would lead the team for the 1st 10yrs and then Ruto takes over for the other 10yrs. Now that Ohuru will be finishing his term and has shared power 50/50 as per the agreement, in 2022 when Ruto becomes president he must respect the agreement and give TNA nusu mkate of government. Thus Ruto owes TNA (and central) a political debt in 2022, in the form of 50% of his govt, which he should pay. I agree. He must and he has to demonstrate and make it clear before the 2022 elections. First is by offering Kindiki the VP position as a sign of goodwill. Si Ouru said once he serves his second term mambo kwisha and that Baba, Chameleon, macemetry and mabillboard should talk to WSR about 2022? Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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2012 wrote:hardwood wrote:When TNA and URP came together the agreement was very clear. They would share power on 50/50 basis and Ohuru would lead the team for the 1st 10yrs and then Ruto takes over for the other 10yrs. Now that Ohuru will be finishing his term and has shared power 50/50 as per the agreement, in 2022 when Ruto becomes president he must respect the agreement and give TNA nusu mkate of government. Thus Ruto owes TNA (and central) a political debt in 2022, in the form of 50% of his govt, which he should pay. I agree. He must and he has to demonstrate and make it clear before the 2022 elections. First is by offering Kindiki the VP position as a sign of goodwill. Ati atia ???? Kindiki of all people ??? When I have interacted with our brothers from that side of Mt.Kenya, I got to understand something an outsider may miss. The Meru look down upon and despise the Tharaka. Same thing happens with Embu/Mbeere. In both cases the two groups are the same people separated by fate. The Tharaka and Mbeere occupy some of the harshest and infertile lands in the whole of Mt.Kenya. As expected, they are less educated and dogged by clanism and belief in witchcraft. In Embu, Lenny Kivuti stands out as the only Mbeere who commands some respect and support from Embu side. Thanks to his deep pockets. But faced with a choice between him and their own Wambora, they settled for the latter. The Tharaka vote basket is <200K. And it would be easier to sell Kindiki to other sections of Mt.Kenya than to their next door brothers.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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FRM2011 wrote:2012 wrote:hardwood wrote:When TNA and URP came together the agreement was very clear. They would share power on 50/50 basis and Ohuru would lead the team for the 1st 10yrs and then Ruto takes over for the other 10yrs. Now that Ohuru will be finishing his term and has shared power 50/50 as per the agreement, in 2022 when Ruto becomes president he must respect the agreement and give TNA nusu mkate of government. Thus Ruto owes TNA (and central) a political debt in 2022, in the form of 50% of his govt, which he should pay. I agree. He must and he has to demonstrate and make it clear before the 2022 elections. First is by offering Kindiki the VP position as a sign of goodwill. Ati atia ???? Kindiki of all people ??? When I have interacted with our brothers from that side of Mt.Kenya, I got to understand something an outsider may miss. The Meru look down upon and despise the Tharaka. Same thing happens with Embu/Mbeere. In both cases the two groups are the same people separated by fate. The Tharaka and Mbeere occupy some of the harshest and infertile lands in the whole of Mt.Kenya. As expected, they are less educated and dogged by clanism and belief in witchcraft. In Embu, Lenny Kivuti stands out as the only Mbeere who commands some respect and support from Embu side. Thanks to his deep pockets. But faced with a choice between him and their own Wambora, they settled for the latter. The Tharaka vote basket is <200K. And it would be easier to sell Kindiki to other sections of Mt.Kenya than to their next door brothers. It doesnt matter who it is but the DEBT must be paid by surrendering nusu mikate. Ohuru gave him the nusu mikate and so he should also give it to TNA.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Watu wa Central msijaribu!!! msithubutu!! Wacheni hiyo mchezo mumeanza! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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masukuma wrote:Watu wa Central msijaribu!!! msithubutu!! Wacheni hiyo mchezo mumeanza!  wako na jokes. Ruto MUST be PORK. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:masukuma wrote:Watu wa Central msijaribu!!! msithubutu!! Wacheni hiyo mchezo mumeanza! wako na jokes. Ruto MUST be PORK. Watu wako na mchezo sana!!!  that idea that akina Ngunjiri are musing over must be rebuked kabisa!! they are playing with our lives! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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masukuma wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:masukuma wrote:Watu wa Central msijaribu!!! msithubutu!! Wacheni hiyo mchezo mumeanza! wako na jokes. Ruto MUST be PORK. Watu wako na mchezo sana!!! that idea that akina Ngunjiri are musing over must be rebuked kabisa!! they are playing with our lives!  {|=
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masukuma wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:masukuma wrote:Watu wa Central msijaribu!!! msithubutu!! Wacheni hiyo mchezo mumeanza! wako na jokes. Ruto MUST be PORK. Watu wako na mchezo sana!!! that idea that akina Ngunjiri are musing over must be rebuked kabisa!! they are playing with our lives! Tell them...and it is just for 10 years after all
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masukuma wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:masukuma wrote:Watu wa Central msijaribu!!! msithubutu!! Wacheni hiyo mchezo mumeanza! wako na jokes. Ruto MUST be PORK. Watu wako na mchezo sana!!! that idea that akina Ngunjiri are musing over must be rebuked kabisa!! they are playing with our lives! So are you insinuating that other tribes should also use violence to instill fears to okuyus and kaleos,so that they can learn to share power?that is a good strategy,isn't?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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He seems to be anti-armtwisting tactics employed by Ngunjiri and Co
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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washiku wrote:masukuma wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:masukuma wrote:Watu wa Central msijaribu!!! msithubutu!! Wacheni hiyo mchezo mumeanza! wako na jokes. Ruto MUST be PORK. Watu wako na mchezo sana!!! that idea that akina Ngunjiri are musing over must be rebuked kabisa!! they are playing with our lives! Tell them...and it is just for 10 years after all If anyone tries to run against the Deepee from the mountain, he/she will be dealt with swiftly and ruthlessly. Watu wengine si wa kuchezewa as far as power is concerned. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Fullykenyan wrote:masukuma wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:masukuma wrote:Watu wa Central msijaribu!!! msithubutu!! Wacheni hiyo mchezo mumeanza! wako na jokes. Ruto MUST be PORK. Watu wako na mchezo sana!!! that idea that akina Ngunjiri are musing over must be rebuked kabisa!! they are playing with our lives! So are you insinuating that other tribes should also use violence to instill fears to okuyus and kaleos,so that they can learn to share power?that is a good strategy,isn't? sasa watatupigia wapi? hatuna mashamba kwao! kule tuko na mashamba na kimezoea kuumana ni RV!! it's a matter of proximity to things we hold dear! So don't joke! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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TNA is no more & UMK will he have the power/authority to control wafuasi  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Uliza arap mashamba!! He said it last year akisomea Jirongo wakati wa "kucheza siasa pole pole" All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Hon Ngunjiri Wambugu agrees with me. That Looto should pay the debt (nusu mkate) he owes okuyos in 2022..... https://www.the-star.co....thing-ngunjiri_c1774046
Quote:In 2013, William Ruto made certain demands to Uhuru so that he could rally the Kalenjin to support Uhuru for the Presidency.
Among the demands Ruto made was that the position of Deputy President be given to a Kalenjin; that Kalenjins get certain positions in the Cabinet; that Kalenjins are employed in parastatals; and that he - on behalf of the Kalenjin community - have a general say in how Uhuru’s Government would be run.
Uhuru agreed.
Based on this agreement Ruto then went out and rallied the Kalenjins to support Uhuru Kenyatta. The rest is history.
So let’s understand something. Ruto - & the Kalenjin - did not support Uhuru Kenyatta for nothing.
They did it because Uhuru Kenyatta made certain promises to them - and they believed him. Uhuru then delivered on these promises. Kalenjin interests have been taken care of since Uhuru got into office.
Let me re-emphasise this.
William Ruto did not support Uhuru for nothing. Uhuru promised certain things to Ruto. Ruto supported Uhuru because of these promises. Uhuru delivered on these promises.
Today I see my Kikuyu colleagues ‘Tanga Tanga-ing’ everywhere rallying our region to support Ruto in 2022. I have just one question for them.
‘#KimaniIchungwa, #RigathiGachagua & Co; what demands have you made on William Ruto on behalf of our community, in return for our votes that you are promising him in 2022? Are those demands personal to your squad alone - or do they include the rest of us?’
To emphasise - Ruto asked; actually Ruto demanded; certain things from Uhuru Kenyatta prior to supporting him in 2013; for himself and for his people. Uhuru promised to meet these demands if they won. Ruto delivered the Kalenjin vote. They won. Uhuru delivered on the demands Ruto had made.
Now am asking - what have kina Ichungwa, Rigathi & Co asked Ruto for, in return for our Kikuyu votes that they are promising him? Has Ruto agreed? Is what they have been promised just for themselves - or also for us - ‘their’ people? This we need to know before we are all put in a basket and taken to Sugoi.
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