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Sonko for Nairobi Governor
2012
#641 Posted : Friday, January 12, 2018 9:46:01 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
The Sonkoigathe alliance will almost certainly win but am not sure if it will stand the test in the long run.
Mr Igathe could go down in history as the first deputy governor to resign after just a year or so.




Didn't last even a year!


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This one you saw it from very far.

On his twitter post,he claimed the reason was inability to earn the trust of the governor.


Igathe is CS material, not deputy governor. Apewe kiti.

BBI will solve it
:)
washiku
#642 Posted : Friday, January 12, 2018 10:01:46 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
The Sonkoigathe alliance will almost certainly win but am not sure if it will stand the test in the long run.
Mr Igathe could go down in history as the first deputy governor to resign after just a year or so.




Didn't last even a year!


Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

This one you saw it from very far.

On his twitter post,he claimed the reason was inability to earn the trust of the governor.



harrydre
#643 Posted : Friday, January 12, 2018 10:33:45 PM
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The ministry of Nairobi Metropolis in the offing...
i.am.back!!!!
murchr
#644 Posted : Saturday, January 13, 2018 2:52:31 AM
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harrydre wrote:
The ministry of Nairobi Metropolis in the offing...



The National govt cannot collect county funds.

Meeting in Statehse in the offing
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Angelica _ann
#645 Posted : Saturday, January 13, 2018 8:08:45 AM
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murchr wrote:
harrydre wrote:
The ministry of Nairobi Metropolis in the offing...



The National govt cannot collect county funds.

Meeting in Statehse in the offing


That would be a very useless ministry & would just waste public funds. Jubilee at its best.
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Kili
#646 Posted : Saturday, January 13, 2018 8:34:12 AM
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I think what he wanted to get is attention; otherwise he would have resigned with immediate effect.He will most definately be 'convinced'to stay on.I also want to agree with @ 2012 that he will be more suitable as cs
Swenani
#647 Posted : Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:16:07 AM
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Kili wrote:
I think what he wanted to get is attention; otherwise he would have resigned with immediate effect.He will most definately be 'convinced'to stay on.I also want to agree with @ 2012 that he will be more suitable as cs

Igathe is a failure. He should go back to corporate world na aachane na politics. Expecting to find a comfort zone in an elective or political appointed position is akin to finding sand storms in Antarctica. Even ouru has not earned Mashamba's trust and vice versa but they work or seem to work in harmony.

I think Igathe is not used to working under somenone and finds it difficult to fit into a position with no decision making powers unlike what he was used to. He doesnt understand why an MCA has more decision making powers than him
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Much Know
#648 Posted : Saturday, January 13, 2018 11:00:55 AM
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Kili wrote:
I think what he wanted to get is attention; otherwise he would have resigned with immediate effect.He will most definately be 'convinced'to stay on.I also want to agree with @ 2012 that he will be more suitable as cs

Quite seemingly the case, wrong move by Igathe anyway because Sonko was the only way to remove Kidero, am sure Uhunye na Ruto watanyoa pembe za Sonko pole pole, everything will be fine, Igathe is being "impatient" and has a lot to learn, hata kama ni kujifanya mtu msafi, i did not personally want to vote sonko, but it was the best "political" solution for Nairobi, because NOW Nairobi is firmly under JP and not coalitions, personalities, tribes etc.
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2012
#649 Posted : Saturday, January 13, 2018 11:44:07 AM
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Swenani wrote:
Kili wrote:
I think what he wanted to get is attention; otherwise he would have resigned with immediate effect.He will most definately be 'convinced'to stay on.I also want to agree with @ 2012 that he will be more suitable as cs

Igathe is a failure. He should go back to corporate world na aachane na politics. Expecting to find a comfort zone in an elective or political appointed position is akin to finding sand storms in Antarctica. Even ouru has not earned Mashamba's trust and vice versa but they work or seem to work in harmony.

I think Igathe is not used to working under somenone and finds it difficult to fit into a position with no decision making powers unlike what he was used to. He doesnt understand why an MCA has more decision making powers than him


Igathe is no failure. Just like that Uchumi CEO, he has a big card up his sleeve. It's either for CS (but I doubt), UN or a regional CEO of a multinational. Watch this space, nobody just leaves a position of power just like that.

BBI will solve it
:)
Much Know
#650 Posted : Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:02:26 PM
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2012 wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Kili wrote:
I think what he wanted to get is attention; otherwise he would have resigned with immediate effect.He will most definately be 'convinced'to stay on.I also want to agree with @ 2012 that he will be more suitable as cs

Igathe is a failure. He should go back to corporate world na aachane na politics. Expecting to find a comfort zone in an elective or political appointed position is akin to finding sand storms in Antarctica. Even ouru has not earned Mashamba's trust and vice versa but they work or seem to work in harmony.

I think Igathe is not used to working under somenone and finds it difficult to fit into a position with no decision making powers unlike what he was used to. He doesnt understand why an MCA has more decision making powers than him


Igathe is no failure. Just like that Uchumi CEO, he has a big card up his sleeve. It's either for CS (but I doubt), UN or a regional CEO of a multinational. Watch this space, nobody just leaves a position of power just like that.

Ebu tuambie what is so special about Igathe? or that failure Uchumi CEO, Jina tu? Ama its the way his name always appears in newspapers for ages? Mbona ameongea kizungu mbaya hivo juu ya sonko basi if he is going for something else? Whats the need? We don't need to " worship" people like igathe, in risk analysis he gets 0, "erratic", kama 'PK syndrome' of another type, kurukaka ruka kila mahali, maybe kina radio stations and some maringo organisations who are mesmerized by kisungu mingi and "big names".
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Lolest!
#651 Posted : Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:02:29 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
The Sonkoigathe alliance will almost certainly win but am not sure if it will stand the test in the long run.
Mr Igathe could go down in history as the first deputy governor to resign after just a year or so.




Didn't last even a year!

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No, it doesn't Mr meanboy

Jus curious
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kaka2za
#652 Posted : Saturday, January 13, 2018 2:19:11 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
The Sonkoigathe alliance will almost certainly win but am not sure if it will stand the test in the long run.
Mr Igathe could go down in history as the first deputy governor to resign after just a year or so.




Didn't last even a year!

Post No?


Does it matter? If it does, use the search function

No, it doesn't Mr meanboy

Jus curious


Post No.421

http://wazua.com/forum.aspx?g=p...&m=787614#post787614
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Wrong forever on the throne
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limanika
#653 Posted : Saturday, January 13, 2018 2:24:36 PM
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Kili wrote:
I think what he wanted to get is attention; otherwise he would have resigned with immediate effect.He will most definately be 'convinced'to stay on.I also want to agree with @ 2012 that he will be more suitable as cs

He should have presented his grievances and then give a timeline, if not addressed amicably that's when he should resign. But you can be sure there are dark forces now scheming how to raise funds for '22 and nrb county is a mine field. Such don't want any a Mr. Pamba in the vicinity. But evil shouldn't triumph good. Almost sure he'll be back, watch this space...
2012
#654 Posted : Saturday, January 13, 2018 3:15:47 PM
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Much Know wrote:
2012 wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Kili wrote:
I think what he wanted to get is attention; otherwise he would have resigned with immediate effect.He will most definately be 'convinced'to stay on.I also want to agree with @ 2012 that he will be more suitable as cs

Igathe is a failure. He should go back to corporate world na aachane na politics. Expecting to find a comfort zone in an elective or political appointed position is akin to finding sand storms in Antarctica. Even ouru has not earned Mashamba's trust and vice versa but they work or seem to work in harmony.

I think Igathe is not used to working under somenone and finds it difficult to fit into a position with no decision making powers unlike what he was used to. He doesnt understand why an MCA has more decision making powers than him


Igathe is no failure. Just like that Uchumi CEO, he has a big card up his sleeve. It's either for CS (but I doubt), UN or a regional CEO of a multinational. Watch this space, nobody just leaves a position of power just like that.

Ebu tuambie what is so special about Igathe? or that failure Uchumi CEO, Jina tu? Ama its the way his name always appears in newspapers for ages? Mbona ameongea kizungu mbaya hivo juu ya sonko basi if he is going for something else? Whats the need? We don't need to " worship" people like igathe, in risk analysis he gets 0, "erratic", kama 'PK syndrome' of another type, kurukaka ruka kila mahali, maybe kina radio stations and some maringo organisations who are mesmerized by kisungu mingi and "big names".


I think the answer to that would be your definition of a failure. In mine, I see nothing to suggest he has failed. Even you, if you are not getting along with your boss, you can take the option to leave or maybe another company has given you a better offer,I'll not think you are a loser but wise.

But again, Kenyan politics are not for everyone. Not everybody stays when the kitchen gets hot or when it will just mess your reputation. I would not be surprised with anyone leaving Sonko, Babayao and Joho,would you?

BBI will solve it
:)
Much Know
#655 Posted : Saturday, January 13, 2018 3:42:36 PM
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2012 wrote:
Much Know wrote:
2012 wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Kili wrote:
I think what he wanted to get is attention; otherwise he would have resigned with immediate effect.He will most definately be 'convinced'to stay on.I also want to agree with @ 2012 that he will be more suitable as cs

Igathe is a failure. He should go back to corporate world na aachane na politics. Expecting to find a comfort zone in an elective or political appointed position is akin to finding sand storms in Antarctica. Even ouru has not earned Mashamba's trust and vice versa but they work or seem to work in harmony.

I think Igathe is not used to working under somenone and finds it difficult to fit into a position with no decision making powers unlike what he was used to. He doesnt understand why an MCA has more decision making powers than him


Igathe is no failure. Just like that Uchumi CEO, he has a big card up his sleeve. It's either for CS (but I doubt), UN or a regional CEO of a multinational. Watch this space, nobody just leaves a position of power just like that.

Ebu tuambie what is so special about Igathe? or that failure Uchumi CEO, Jina tu? Ama its the way his name always appears in newspapers for ages? Mbona ameongea kizungu mbaya hivo juu ya sonko basi if he is going for something else? Whats the need? We don't need to " worship" people like igathe, in risk analysis he gets 0, "erratic", kama 'PK syndrome' of another type, kurukaka ruka kila mahali, maybe kina radio stations and some maringo organisations who are mesmerized by kisungu mingi and "big names".


I think the answer to that would be your definition of a failure. In mine, I see nothing to suggest he has failed. Even you, if you are not getting along with your boss, you can take the option to leave or maybe another company has given you a better offer,I'll not think you are a loser but wise.

But again, Kenyan politics are not for everyone. Not everybody stays when the kitchen gets hot or when it will just mess your reputation. I would not be surprised with anyone leaving Sonko, Babayao and Joho,would you?

Mr Igathe claims to be a "Manager", partnership in performance management is not possible to achieve in under 5 years and particularly, TRUST, which the fellow is yelling about, trust doesnt come easy and it must not come in your special flavor, this is outlined by Prof. Drucker himself in management, any MBA should know this, what is surprising many is that the fellow does not understand sonko, personally if i were igathe, i would have looked for a clever excuse to hide myself while things heat up, but the fellow likes his face soo much on t.v, and i think he wanted his face more on t.v and himself on the mic in occasions etc more than performance! i would have focused on building sonkos trust long term by creating a cheap master-plan to eradicate garbage and just surprise the county on one of the dull morning days with a spotless county, the way kina kidero went with mutungis to the roads but failed, with garbage, am sure a good low cost strategy with excellent logistics can work ama? He is a failure to me and a deserter, should be disciplined or ostracized from Jubilee party for 20 years!
A New Kenya
wukan
#656 Posted : Saturday, January 13, 2018 4:05:46 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
harrydre wrote:
The ministry of Nairobi Metropolis in the offing...



The National govt cannot collect county funds.

Meeting in Statehse in the offing


That would be a very useless ministry & would just waste public funds. Jubilee at its best.


The one under Kibaki did some great stuff like doing the nairobi spatial plan and facilitating the nairobi master plan. Those two documents set out the plan and strategy for solving most of Nairobi's problems but no one bothers to read them. Let us now allow Sonko build his ghetto metropolis...jubilee at its best.
murchr
#657 Posted : Saturday, January 13, 2018 5:13:23 PM
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wukan wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
harrydre wrote:
The ministry of Nairobi Metropolis in the offing...



The National govt cannot collect county funds.

Meeting in Statehse in the offing


That would be a very useless ministry & would just waste public funds. Jubilee at its best.


The one under Kibaki did some great stuff like doing the nairobi spatial plan and facilitating the nairobi master plan. Those two documents set out the plan and strategy for solving most of Nairobi's problems but no one bothers to read them. Let us now allow Sonko build his ghetto metropolis...jubilee at its best.


Nairobi metropolitan encompasses the counties of Nairobi Kiambu Machakos and Kajiado. You think all those countiescan cease to exist?

Like it or not Nairobi County is here to stay. With Sonko running it alone. The lacunae in law may not allow him to appoint an assistant formally
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Lolest!
#658 Posted : Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:58:40 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
The Sonkoigathe alliance will almost certainly win but am not sure if it will stand the test in the long run.
Mr Igathe could go down in history as the first deputy governor to resign after just a year or so.




Didn't last even a year!

Post No?


Does it matter? If it does, use the search function

No, it doesn't Mr meanboy

Jus curious


Post No.421

http://wazua.com/forum.aspx?g=p...&m=787614#post787614

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2012
#659 Posted : Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:16:15 AM
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murchr wrote:
wukan wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
harrydre wrote:
The ministry of Nairobi Metropolis in the offing...



The National govt cannot collect county funds.

Meeting in Statehse in the offing


That would be a very useless ministry & would just waste public funds. Jubilee at its best.


The one under Kibaki did some great stuff like doing the nairobi spatial plan and facilitating the nairobi master plan. Those two documents set out the plan and strategy for solving most of Nairobi's problems but no one bothers to read them. Let us now allow Sonko build his ghetto metropolis...jubilee at its best.


Nairobi metropolitan encompasses the counties of Nairobi Kiambu Machakos and Kajiado. You think all those countiescan cease to exist?

Like it or not Nairobi County is here to stay. With Sonko running it alone. The lacunae in law may not allow him to appoint an assistant formally


Sonko cannot appoint his deputy. It's an elective post not appointment. Only Nairobians can elect the deputy, period.
As for Nairobi Metropolitan, it cannot exist. That would be against the constitution in regards to devolution. No governor can agree plus the court would throw it out of the window asubuhi na mapema. We're stuck with Sonko solo for atleast 2 years, the time it would take to enact and pass that law. The best option that I'm sure the president and his people are working at, is to get Sonko to reject Igathe's resignation and give him what he wants before Jan 31st.

BBI will solve it
:)
hardwood
#660 Posted : Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:52:01 AM
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The country does not need elected deputy governors. Residents should only vote for governor who then picks a deputy from among the country executives, a deputy he can hire and fire at will for smooth county operations. From past experiences in machakos and embu and now nairobi, deputy governors can be a pain in the a$$, as they try to fight/outshine/blackmail their bosses.

Also it is deeply offending for someone to work so hard to be elected governor, then you tell him to concentrate on politics and leave the running of the county to his deputy, eti coz he (the governor) is incompetent to run his county.

Igathes resignation is the best thing to happen to nairobi coz wanainchi chose sonko to run the county and now sonko is free to deliver what he promised without having to consult third parties.
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