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Portfolio Balancing: Avoid Over Exposure To Financial Sector
Horton
#151 Posted : Monday, December 18, 2017 2:07:47 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
maka wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
maka wrote:
According to the company’s 2016 annual accounts, borrowing ballooned to a massive Sh105 billion last year, causing finance costs to hit the roof. It is not incredible that one local commercial bank is exposed to Kenya Power to the extent of a massive Sh50 billion.
There is no bank in Kenya that can loan a single customer ksh.50bn. Most of Kenya Power's loans are from DFIs,World Bank,EIB,EXIM bank of China
Never wrote that artcile.. http://www.nation.co.ke/...512708-ol5im6/index.html Let me send him an email he tells me where he got the info...
I have gone through the annual report;the sh.50bn is not a loan to a local bank but to Standard Chartered Bank PLC
adequate research is your friend, as Ericsson said, this was from Stanchart PLC http://www.businessdaily...272812-1dvndz/index.html
sparkly
#152 Posted : Monday, December 18, 2017 2:49:16 PM
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Horton wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
maka wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
maka wrote:
According to the company’s 2016 annual accounts, borrowing ballooned to a massive Sh105 billion last year, causing finance costs to hit the roof. It is not incredible that one local commercial bank is exposed to Kenya Power to the extent of a massive Sh50 billion.
There is no bank in Kenya that can loan a single customer ksh.50bn. Most of Kenya Power's loans are from DFIs,World Bank,EIB,EXIM bank of China
Never wrote that artcile.. http://www.nation.co.ke/...512708-ol5im6/index.html Let me send him an email he tells me where he got the info...
I have gone through the annual report;the sh.50bn is not a loan to a local bank but to Standard Chartered Bank PLC
adequate research is your friend, as Ericsson said, this was from Stanchart PLC http://www.businessdaily...272812-1dvndz/index.html
Loan by many lenders organized by SCB [qoute]What is a 'Syndicated Loan' A syndicated loan, also known as a syndicated bank facility, is a loan offered by a group of lenders – referred to as a syndicate – that work together to provide funds for a single borrower. The borrower could be a corporation, a large project or a sovereignty, such as a government. The loan can involve a fixed amount of funds, a credit line or a combination of the two ~ Investopedia[/quote]
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maka
#153 Posted : Monday, December 18, 2017 4:41:53 PM
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From Jaindi... i hear you ******- you are right with respect to the 25 per cent single borrower limit. The capital base can not support that level of borrowing. The rule allows banks to break the single borrower limit rule only if they are lending to the state or to a 100 per cent state owned entity. KPLC is not. Please grab a copy of KPLC's 2006 accounts and have a look at the information disclosed in the NOTES. When i asked the CEO of KPLC, they said those are monies on lent to them by the government and that Standard Chartered was just but an arranger. Which begs the question: if the sh 50 billion is on lent to them, why does it appear on KPLC's balance sheet in the first place and as money lent to them by Stanchart? Let's keep the discussion going
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maka
#154 Posted : Monday, December 18, 2017 4:44:30 PM
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@Ericsonn...Horton...Response...
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sparkly
#155 Posted : Monday, December 18, 2017 5:30:22 PM
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maka wrote:
From Jaindi... i hear you ******- you are right with respect to the 25 per cent single borrower limit. The capital base can not support that level of borrowing. The rule allows banks to break the single borrower limit rule only if they are lending to the state or to a 100 per cent state owned entity. KPLC is not. Please grab a copy of KPLC's 2006 accounts and have a look at the information disclosed in the NOTES. When i asked the CEO of KPLC, they said those are monies on lent to them by the government and that Standard Chartered was just but an arranger. Which begs the question: if the sh 50 billion is on lent to them, why does it appear on KPLC's balance sheet in the first place and as money lent to them by Stanchart? Let's keep the discussion going
Because SCB is the syndicate arranger?
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Angelica _ann
#156 Posted : Monday, December 18, 2017 5:35:22 PM
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sparkly wrote:
maka wrote:
From Jaindi... i hear you ******- you are right with respect to the 25 per cent single borrower limit. The capital base can not support that level of borrowing. The rule allows banks to break the single borrower limit rule only if they are lending to the state or to a 100 per cent state owned entity. KPLC is not. Please grab a copy of KPLC's 2016 accounts and have a look at the information disclosed in the NOTES. When i asked the CEO of KPLC, they said those are monies on lent to them by the government and that Standard Chartered was just but an arranger. Which begs the question: if the sh 50 billion is on lent to them, why does it appear on KPLC's balance sheet in the first place and as money lent to them by Stanchart? Let's keep the discussion going
Because SCB is the syndicate arranger?
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Ericsson
#157 Posted : Monday, December 18, 2017 5:41:23 PM
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maka wrote:
@Ericsonn...Horton...Response...
I have read the annual report.Standard Chartered PLC lent KPLC the money. The money is not guaranteed by GoK but KPLC has pledged some of its assets as securities. This is a commercial loan not on-lent. Commercial borrowings Standard Chartered Bank Loan (USD 350,000,000) 36,299,095 35,385,770 Standard Chartered Bank Loan 15,180,000 15,180,00 Standard Chartered Bank loans are secured by letters of negative pledge. All other loans are guaranteed by the Government of Kenya.
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littledove
#158 Posted : Thursday, December 28, 2017 9:09:45 AM
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https://www.african-markets.com/en/news/east-africa/sudan/sudan-to-devalue-pound-currency-from-6-7-to-18-per-dollar-in-january?utm_source=Sociallymap&utm_medium=Sociallymap&utm_campaign=Sociallymap kenyan banks in south sudan face devaluation loss yet again
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Ericsson
#159 Posted : Thursday, December 28, 2017 9:39:51 AM
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Title is sudan not south sudan.Those are two different countries
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littledove
#160 Posted : Thursday, December 28, 2017 9:57:39 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Title is sudan not south sudan.Those are two different countries
noted, but the image on the article shows south sudan
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