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Rank: Member Joined: 12/21/2009 Posts: 602
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KulaRaha wrote:I want to see how freight does in January...that will be the decider. +1 In addition to the economic gains which should be significant, It will decongest the road from Miritini to town. If you take the afternoon train and arrive at 8pm, you can easily spend 2 hours getting into town due to the longhaul lorries starting their night journey to Nairobi...god forbid if you are headed to south coast or further on north coast...utafika at 2:00 am.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 398 Location: Where everyone knows you
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mmarto wrote:aemathenge wrote:mmarto wrote:Am i the only one complaining of very uncomfortable seats(2nd class coach). Yes, you are. Let those that have used it comment. Again am asking about the comfort of the seats... Have traveled twice. - once via first class. Very comfortable seats, with enough leg room. - The second time via economy. Also comfortable. The comfort factor is not different to the numerous trains I have used in UK and Europe.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/15/2009 Posts: 371
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MatataMingi wrote:mmarto wrote:aemathenge wrote:mmarto wrote:Am i the only one complaining of very uncomfortable seats(2nd class coach). Yes, you are. Let those that have used it comment. Again am asking about the comfort of the seats... Have traveled twice. - once via first class. Very comfortable seats, with enough leg room. - The second time via economy. Also comfortable. The comfort factor is not different to the numerous trains I have used in UK and Europe.  The seats are okay. The idea was to fit as many people in the coach as possible.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/9/2008 Posts: 2,824
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Any ticketing agents in the house? When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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kingfisher wrote:Any ticketing agents in the house? Why do you need an agent while you can DIY? 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Jezzus. The US can't even build a working railway. Amtrak train derails on FIRST day of operation killing 6 and injuring many. Sad. US should learn from kenya on how to build and operate a railway. https://www.theguardian....ttle-amtrak-train-crash
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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hardwood wrote:Jezzus. The US can't even build a working railway. Amtrak train derails on FIRST day of operation killing 6 and injuring many. Sad. US should learn from kenya China/Japan on how to build and operate a railway. https://www.theguardian....ttle-amtrak-train-crash
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/27/2009 Posts: 1,437
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murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Jezzus. The US can't even build a working railway. Amtrak train derails on FIRST day of operation killing 6 and injuring many. Sad. US should learn from kenya China/Japan on how to build and operate a railway. https://www.theguardian....ttle-amtrak-train-crash
Saw this on FOX news and wondered whether we are prepared for such a disaster. God forbid! The rescue operation mobilized within a short time span was impressive. Pole to those affected.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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Iganamagana wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Jezzus. The US can't even build a working railway. Amtrak train derails on FIRST day of operation killing 6 and injuring many. Sad. US should learn from kenya China/Japan on how to build and operate a railway. https://www.theguardian....ttle-amtrak-train-crash
Saw this on FOX news and wondered whether we are prepared for such a disaster. God forbid! The rescue operation mobilized within a short time span was impressive. Pole to those affected. @hardwood today at Mai Mahiu deaths have occurred during the SGR construction.. May God rest their souls in peace
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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Iganamagana wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Jezzus. The US can't even build a working railway. Amtrak train derails on FIRST day of operation killing 6 and injuring many. Sad. US should learn from kenya China/Japan on how to build and operate a railway. https://www.theguardian....ttle-amtrak-train-crash
Saw this on FOX news and wondered whether we are prepared for such a disaster. God forbid! The rescue operation mobilized within a short time span was impressive. Pole to those affected. @hardwood today at Mai Mahiu deaths have occurred during the SGR construction.. May God rest their souls in peace http://www.businessdaily...4884-12bm3ehz/index.html
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Iganamagana wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Jezzus. The US can't even build a working railway. Amtrak train derails on FIRST day of operation killing 6 and injuring many. Sad. US should learn from kenya China/Japan on how to build and operate a railway. https://www.theguardian....ttle-amtrak-train-crash
Saw this on FOX news and wondered whether we are prepared for such a disaster. God forbid! The rescue operation mobilized within a short time span was impressive. Pole to those affected. No need to worry. Coz such incompetence can't happen in .ke. FYI that 'Trump train' was on its first inaugural journey, maiden journey, and things went haywire meaning the problem was with the infrastructure and its design. Kenya's SGR has been tested for months and proved to be perfect. Americans should learn some of these infrastructure matters from kenya.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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hardwood wrote:Iganamagana wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Jezzus. The US can't even build a working railway. Amtrak train derails on FIRST day of operation killing 6 and injuring many. Sad. US should learn from kenya China/Japan on how to build and operate a railway. https://www.theguardian....ttle-amtrak-train-crash
Saw this on FOX news and wondered whether we are prepared for such a disaster. God forbid! The rescue operation mobilized within a short time span was impressive. Pole to those affected. No need to worry. Coz such incompetence can't happen in .ke. FYI that 'Trump train' was on its first inaugural journey, maiden journey, and things went haywire meaning the problem was with the infrastructure and its design. Kenya's SGR has been tested for months and proved to be perfect. Americans should learn some of these infrastructure matters from kenya. I think we should be questioning why we need Chinese to come all this way to oversee some of the construction works 50 plus years after independence.. And still they get it wrong leading to deaths today at Mai Mahiu http://www.businessdaily...4884-12bm3ehz/index.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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obiero wrote:Iganamagana wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Jezzus. The US can't even build a working railway. Amtrak train derails on FIRST day of operation killing 6 and injuring many. Sad. US should learn from kenya China/Japan on how to build and operate a railway. https://www.theguardian....ttle-amtrak-train-crash
Saw this on FOX news and wondered whether we are prepared for such a disaster. God forbid! The rescue operation mobilized within a short time span was impressive. Pole to those affected. @hardwood today at Mai Mahiu deaths have occurred during the SGR construction.. May God rest their souls in peace Don't mix issues. Workers die all the time during major infrastructure projects...dams, railways, tunnels etc etc. The issue here is that the US railway was complete and certified as safe for use. Then the worst happened on the first trip. This points to the incompetence of the US engineers.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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obiero wrote:hardwood wrote:Iganamagana wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Jezzus. The US can't even build a working railway. Amtrak train derails on FIRST day of operation killing 6 and injuring many. Sad. US should learn from kenya China/Japan on how to build and operate a railway. https://www.theguardian....ttle-amtrak-train-crash
Saw this on FOX news and wondered whether we are prepared for such a disaster. God forbid! The rescue operation mobilized within a short time span was impressive. Pole to those affected. No need to worry. Coz such incompetence can't happen in .ke. FYI that 'Trump train' was on its first inaugural journey, maiden journey, and things went haywire meaning the problem was with the infrastructure and its design. Kenya's SGR has been tested for months and proved to be perfect. Americans should learn some of these infrastructure matters from kenya. I think we should be questioning why we need Chinese to come all this way to oversee some of the construction works 50 plus years after independence.. And still they get it wrong leading to deaths today at Mai Mahiu http://www.businessdaily...884-12bm3ehz/index.html Have some pride as a Kenyan. Walk with your head high. Don't mix construction issues with operational issues. Accidents do happen at construction sites. If only those workers had adorned safety gear, maybe they would be alive today.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/21/2009 Posts: 602
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obiero wrote:I think we should be questioning why we need Chinese to come all this way to oversee some of the construction works 50 plus years after independence.. And still they get it wrong leading to deaths today at Mai Mahiu http://www.businessdaily...884-12bm3ehz/index.html Was decidedly not proud when I last travelled on the SGR. The escalator stopped functioning and a Chinese guy had to come and unstick it...I know we have skilled Kenyans who can do this work..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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hardwood wrote:obiero wrote:hardwood wrote:Iganamagana wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Jezzus. The US can't even build a working railway. Amtrak train derails on FIRST day of operation killing 6 and injuring many. Sad. US should learn from kenya China/Japan on how to build and operate a railway. https://www.theguardian....ttle-amtrak-train-crash
Saw this on FOX news and wondered whether we are prepared for such a disaster. God forbid! The rescue operation mobilized within a short time span was impressive. Pole to those affected. No need to worry. Coz such incompetence can't happen in .ke. FYI that 'Trump train' was on its first inaugural journey, maiden journey, and things went haywire meaning the problem was with the infrastructure and its design. Kenya's SGR has been tested for months and proved to be perfect. Americans should learn some of these infrastructure matters from kenya. I think we should be questioning why we need Chinese to come all this way to oversee some of the construction works 50 plus years after independence.. And still they get it wrong leading to deaths today at Mai Mahiu http://www.businessdaily...884-12bm3ehz/index.html Have some pride as a Kenyan. Walk with your head high. Don't mix construction issues with operational issues. Accidents do happen at construction sites. If only those workers had adorned safety gear, maybe they would be alive today. I am not proud of where we are.. We could do much better. But im not ashamed of being Kenyan or African
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/3/2015 Posts: 118 Location: Nairobi
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Dahatre wrote:obiero wrote:I think we should be questioning why we need Chinese to come all this way to oversee some of the construction works 50 plus years after independence.. And still they get it wrong leading to deaths today at Mai Mahiu http://www.businessdaily...884-12bm3ehz/index.html Was decidedly not proud when I last travelled on the SGR. The escalator stopped functioning and a Chinese guy had to come and unstick it...I know we have skilled Kenyans who can do this work.. In construction (contracts) there is what is called defects liability period...anything that does not work as per contractor's guarantee/warranty is fixed/replaced by the contractor. Most projects, contractor does this for 6 months to a year. Thika road was a year. Wakijiharibia wasilaumu mtu, wajilaumu wenyewe.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/27/2009 Posts: 1,437
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Who keeps data on major construction projects accidents / incidents in Kenya? NCA? I did not hear of any adverse reports during the Mombasa-Syokimau SGR construction. May be they did very well on safety issues.
Most of the incidents reported in the media are mostly with small and medium residential construction projects.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Musimo wrote:Dahatre wrote:obiero wrote:I think we should be questioning why we need Chinese to come all this way to oversee some of the construction works 50 plus years after independence.. And still they get it wrong leading to deaths today at Mai Mahiu http://www.businessdaily...884-12bm3ehz/index.html Was decidedly not proud when I last travelled on the SGR. The escalator stopped functioning and a Chinese guy had to come and unstick it...I know we have skilled Kenyans who can do this work.. In construction (contracts) there is what is called defects liability period...anything that does not work as per contractor's guarantee/warranty is fixed/replaced by the contractor. Most projects, contractor does this for 6 months to a year. Thika road was a year. Wakijiharibia wasilaumu mtu, wajilaumu wenyewe. Well said. Even cars, tvs etc come with warranty.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Iganamagana wrote:Who keeps data on major construction projects accidents / incidents in Kenya? NCA? I did not hear of any adverse reports during the Mombasa-Syokimau SGR construction. May be they did very well on safety issues.
Most of the incidents reported in the media are mostly with small and medium residential construction projects. Working in a tunnel in mai mahiu is more dangerous than working in the plains of makueni/manyani. That said construction sites are hazardous the world over, even in the first world... https://www.theguardian....ers-safety-construction
Quote:The construction industry is the most dangerous sector in Britain. There is no trade like it. To put it in context, 448 British soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan since 2001. Over the same period, more than 760 construction workers have been killed on British sites.
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