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Fyatu
#101 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 3:20:09 PM
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10 bob has printed
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VituVingiSana
#102 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 3:35:52 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
10 bob has printed

I hope the firm survives. I have no ARM shares but I like competition that helps keep prices in check.
Going in huge into TZ, using debt, turned out to be disastrous to ARM. Except for DTB, does any other listed KE firm make a decent ROI in TZ?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Fyatu
#103 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 3:52:03 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
10 bob has printed

I hope the firm survives. I have no ARM shares but I like competition that helps keep prices in check.
Going in huge into TZ, using debt, turned out to be disastrous to ARM. Except for DTB, does any other listed KE firm make a decent ROI in TZ?


Probably East Africa Cables....

There was talk that the firm(ARM) will increase number of shares to sell to a new investor in a bid to improve the balance sheet. Has this materialized?
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hisah
#104 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:36:54 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
10 bob has printed

Testing supply at the zone where the bounce happened.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Ericsson
#105 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:45:07 PM
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After the death of the father,the Paunrana sons mismanaged the company to its death bed.
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Ebenyo
#106 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 6:53:35 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
After the death of the father,the Paunrana sons mismanaged the company to its death bed.



They got some good cash injection from a UK firm in exchange for equity stake.The latest results doesnt point to a good outlook.So what could be the problem here?
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Horton
#107 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 8:23:14 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
After the death of the father,the Paunrana sons mismanaged the company to its death bed.


Not true. It’s only Pradeep (not sons he is the only one the rest are sisters who were married) who actually built the company. Word has it that He used to borrow his cousins canter to transport limestone when he came back from the US.

ARM may have bitten off more than they could chew but I am confident they will bounce back at some point.
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sparkly
#108 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:17:54 PM
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Horton wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
After the death of the father,the Paunrana sons mismanaged the company to its death bed.


Not true. It’s only Pradeep (not sons he is the only one the rest are sisters who were married) who actually built the company. Word has it that He used to borrow his cousins canter to transport limestone when he came back from the US.

ARM may have bitten off more than they could chew but I am confident they will bounce back at some point.


ARM went into a price war with established players and came out worse. They got angel investors to bail them out. If the angel investors stick around abit longer ARM will be n bigger than Bamburi.
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Ericsson
#109 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:23:46 PM
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sparkly wrote:
Horton wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
After the death of the father,the Paunrana sons mismanaged the company to its death bed.


Not true. It’s only Pradeep (not sons he is the only one the rest are sisters who were married) who actually built the company. Word has it that He used to borrow his cousins canter to transport limestone when he came back from the US.

ARM may have bitten off more than they could chew but I am confident they will bounce back at some point.


ARM went into a price war with established players and came out worse. They got angel investors to bail them out. If the angel investors stick around abit longer ARM will be n bigger than Bamburi.

Demise of ARM was caused by Mombasa Cement.
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Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Ebenyo
#110 Posted : Thursday, December 14, 2017 7:08:18 AM
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sparkly wrote:
Horton wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
After the death of the father,the Paunrana sons mismanaged the company to its death bed.


Not true. It’s only Pradeep (not sons he is the only one the rest are sisters who were married) who actually built the company. Word has it that He used to borrow his cousins canter to transport limestone when he came back from the US.

ARM may have bitten off more than they could chew but I am confident they will bounce back at some point.


ARM went into a price war with established players and came out worse. They got angel investors to bail them out. If the angel investors stick around abit longer ARM will be n bigger than Bamburi.




The UK firm might grow weary of losses.Recently they sold their fertilizer manufacturing unit(mavuno).Then they are really having it tough in Tanzania.They are disposing some assets their in oder to repay debts.
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