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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2011 Posts: 391 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:Speculz wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Wororo wrote:kawi254 wrote:The 700 MHz frequency assigned to JTL will be the major advantage i.e one tower (eNB) can cover larger areas.
how they got that frequency is story for another day. . True. 700 mHz is a robust network to set up effortlessly... The challenge though will be the availability of Band 28 (700mHz) devices - smartphones, routers, tablets etc How do I check if my phone supports 700MHz? Gsmarena  Mine says that... is it ok...Smh blonde moment. Yes, you are fine for the 4G Faiba. I often have the blonde moments in bonds . i see they will be using band 28 and not 17 for the 700Mhz , might not work if that's the case  "You can't have everything. Where would you put it?" - Stephen Wright
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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This war will be nasty.The other three providers have ganged up to crush faiba. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Speculz wrote:maka wrote:Speculz wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Wororo wrote:kawi254 wrote:The 700 MHz frequency assigned to JTL will be the major advantage i.e one tower (eNB) can cover larger areas.
how they got that frequency is story for another day. . True. 700 mHz is a robust network to set up effortlessly... The challenge though will be the availability of Band 28 (700mHz) devices - smartphones, routers, tablets etc How do I check if my phone supports 700MHz? Gsmarena Mine says that... is it ok...Smh blonde moment. Yes, you are fine for the 4G Faiba. I often have the blonde moments in bonds .  possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,102 Location: Nairobi
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mlennyma wrote:kimanimsc wrote:kimanimsc wrote:watesh wrote:Do you guys think Faiba can become a potential threat to Safaricom's fast growth in the data business? 120 GB at Ksh 4K - validity 30 days. to capture well the masses they need to split the 1GB data for 50 Bob further to like 500mb for 25,250mb for 15 and kitu 100mb for 10 but you can now see safaricom is hell expensive Based on @wororo’s list of compatible phones, there’s no need to sell sub-50 bundles. Folks who can afford the $500+ phones can spend 50/MB per day. Or even less per MB with a plan. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:mlennyma wrote:kimanimsc wrote:kimanimsc wrote:watesh wrote:Do you guys think Faiba can become a potential threat to Safaricom's fast growth in the data business? 120 GB at Ksh 4K - validity 30 days. to capture well the masses they need to split the 1GB data for 50 Bob further to like 500mb for 25,250mb for 15 and kitu 100mb for 10 but you can now see safaricom is hell expensive Based on @wororo’s list of compatible phones, there’s no need to sell sub-50 bundles. Folks who can afford the $500+ phones can spend 50/MB per day. Or even less per MB with a plan. So wanjiku doesn't need to migrate Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:mlennyma wrote:kimanimsc wrote:kimanimsc wrote:watesh wrote:Do you guys think Faiba can become a potential threat to Safaricom's fast growth in the data business? 120 GB at Ksh 4K - validity 30 days. to capture well the masses they need to split the 1GB data for 50 Bob further to like 500mb for 25,250mb for 15 and kitu 100mb for 10 but you can now see safaricom is hell expensive Based on @wororo’s list of compatible phones, there’s no need to sell sub-50 bundles. Folks who can afford the $500+ phones can spend 50/MB per day. Or even less per MB with a plan. So wanjiku doesn't need to migrate ask equity bank or even safaricom how important wanjikus kadogo economy is...offering smaller packaging will cost them nothing ...maintaining a car is the task but buying is a one-off thing "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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mlennyma wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:mlennyma wrote:kimanimsc wrote:kimanimsc wrote:watesh wrote:Do you guys think Faiba can become a potential threat to Safaricom's fast growth in the data business? 120 GB at Ksh 4K - validity 30 days. to capture well the masses they need to split the 1GB data for 50 Bob further to like 500mb for 25,250mb for 15 and kitu 100mb for 10 but you can now see safaricom is hell expensive Based on @wororo’s list of compatible phones, there’s no need to sell sub-50 bundles. Folks who can afford the $500+ phones can spend 50/MB per day. Or even less per MB with a plan. So wanjiku doesn't need to migrate ask equity bank or even safaricom how important wanjikus kadogo economy is...offering smaller packaging will cost them nothing ...maintaining a car is the task but buying is a one-off thing Wanjiku is riding high courtesy of the sheap shinese phones. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Thitifini wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:kimanimsc wrote:kimanimsc wrote:watesh wrote:Do you guys think Faiba can become a potential threat to Safaricom's fast growth in the data business? 120 GB at Ksh 4K - validity 30 days. What??? Where do i get a Faiba SIM? And does it work everywhere in Nairobi? What about Mombasa? Fisi hour 😂 SWENANI ako sorted......
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,102 Location: Nairobi
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mlennyma wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:mlennyma wrote:kimanimsc wrote:kimanimsc wrote:watesh wrote:Do you guys think Faiba can become a potential threat to Safaricom's fast growth in the data business? 120 GB at Ksh 4K - validity 30 days. to capture well the masses they need to split the 1GB data for 50 Bob further to like 500mb for 25,250mb for 15 and kitu 100mb for 10 but you can now see safaricom is hell expensive Based on @wororo’s list of compatible phones, there’s no need to sell sub-50 bundles. Folks who can afford the $500+ phones can spend 50/MB per day. Or even less per MB with a plan. So wanjiku doesn't need to migrate ask equity bank or even safaricom how important wanjikus kadogo economy is...offering smaller packaging will cost them nothing ...maintaining a car is the task but buying is a one-off thing If Faiba can contract a Chinese manufacturer to supply cheap/affordable phones ($100 max) that support 700 MHz then it makes sense otherwise why complicate offerings for folks when the only phones that are compatible are the $500+ ones? That said, the cost of phones keeps on dropping and good refurbished or even new phones [that match @wororo's list] will start showing up soon at $250 or less. Though one should be careful to try to be everything to everyone. Apple is the most profitable phone [among other items] firm and they chose premium offerings [phones, laptops, etc] vs Nokia. Likewise, Safaricom has chosen a higher priced route with priciest calls, priciest data and priciest Mobile Money BUT they have the best coverage and (probably) quality. There's a market for that. In my case, I have one of the compatible phones so... bring on the Faiba SIM ;-) ... I will keep Safcom but I want to enjoy the cheap data too. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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How much is their dongle? 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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washiku wrote:How much is their dongle? They have one already ?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,509 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:mlennyma wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:mlennyma wrote:kimanimsc wrote:kimanimsc wrote:watesh wrote:Do you guys think Faiba can become a potential threat to Safaricom's fast growth in the data business? 120 GB at Ksh 4K - validity 30 days. to capture well the masses they need to split the 1GB data for 50 Bob further to like 500mb for 25,250mb for 15 and kitu 100mb for 10 but you can now see safaricom is hell expensive Based on @wororo’s list of compatible phones, there’s no need to sell sub-50 bundles. Folks who can afford the $500+ phones can spend 50/MB per day. Or even less per MB with a plan. So wanjiku doesn't need to migrate ask equity bank or even safaricom how important wanjikus kadogo economy is...offering smaller packaging will cost them nothing ...maintaining a car is the task but buying is a one-off thing If Faiba can contract a Chinese manufacturer to supply cheap/affordable phones ($100 max) that support 700 MHz then it makes sense otherwise why complicate offerings for folks when the only phones that are compatible are the $500+ ones? That said, the cost of phones keeps on dropping and good refurbished or even new phones [that match @wororo's list] will start showing up soon at $250 or less. Though one should be careful to try to be everything to everyone. Apple is the most profitable phone [among other items] firm and they chose premium offerings [phones, laptops, etc] vs Nokia. Likewise, Safaricom has chosen a higher priced route with priciest calls, priciest data and priciest Mobile Money BUT they have the best coverage and (probably) quality. There's a market for that. In my case, I have one of the compatible phones so... bring on the Faiba SIM ;-) ... I will keep Safcom but I want to enjoy the cheap data too. RESIST? 😄😄😄
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:mlennyma wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:mlennyma wrote:kimanimsc wrote:kimanimsc wrote:watesh wrote:Do you guys think Faiba can become a potential threat to Safaricom's fast growth in the data business? 120 GB at Ksh 4K - validity 30 days. to capture well the masses they need to split the 1GB data for 50 Bob further to like 500mb for 25,250mb for 15 and kitu 100mb for 10 but you can now see safaricom is hell expensive Based on @wororo’s list of compatible phones, there’s no need to sell sub-50 bundles. Folks who can afford the $500+ phones can spend 50/MB per day. Or even less per MB with a plan. So wanjiku doesn't need to migrate ask equity bank or even safaricom how important wanjikus kadogo economy is...offering smaller packaging will cost them nothing ...maintaining a car is the task but buying is a one-off thing If Faiba can contract a Chinese manufacturer to supply cheap/affordable phones ($100 max) that support 700 MHz then it makes sense otherwise why complicate offerings for folks when the only phones that are compatible are the $500+ ones? That said, the cost of phones keeps on dropping and good refurbished or even new phones [that match @wororo's list] will start showing up soon at $250 or less. Though one should be careful to try to be everything to everyone. Apple is the most profitable phone [among other items] firm and they chose premium offerings [phones, laptops, etc] vs Nokia. Likewise, Safaricom has chosen a higher priced route with priciest calls, priciest data and priciest Mobile Money BUT they have the best coverage and (probably) quality. There's a market for that. In my case, I have one of the compatible phones so... bring on the Faiba SIM ;-) ... I will keep Safcom but I want to enjoy the cheap data too. RESIST? 😄😄😄 Exactly obiero RESIST Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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FRM2011 wrote:washiku wrote:How much is their dongle? They have one already ? Yeah. We have been testing it with my friends. They had gotten them for free to help them test. Speeds are very good. Wonder whether the same will be maintained once many more people join it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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Free calls within their network?? This will be a good fight!! 
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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Speculz wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Wororo wrote:kawi254 wrote:The 700 MHz frequency assigned to JTL will be the major advantage i.e one tower (eNB) can cover larger areas.
how they got that frequency is story for another day. . True. 700 mHz is a robust network to set up effortlessly... The challenge though will be the availability of Band 28 (700mHz) devices - smartphones, routers, tablets etc How do I check if my phone supports 700MHz? Gsmarena Ghai! kwani yangu ni gani? 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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kawi254 wrote:The 700 MHz frequency assigned to JTL will be the major advantage i.e one tower (eNB) can cover larger areas.
how they got that frequency is story for another day. . A low frequency is good but there are 2 problems: 1. Many phones operate at higher bands, typically 1800+ 2. A large powerful mast on low frequency is good for voice. A data network is designed differently. It is made up of very many, small, modular components each supporting a small area (Node Bs, RNCs - can go to as small as a room! (picocells)) ...these are then connected to a very high capacity data network. To set this up to a level that gives Safcom and Airtel,(..mostly Saf) serious pause would cost billionsWacha tuone!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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quicksand wrote:kawi254 wrote:The 700 MHz frequency assigned to JTL will be the major advantage i.e one tower (eNB) can cover larger areas.
how they got that frequency is story for another day. . A low frequency is good but there are 2 problems: 1. Many phones operate at higher bands, typically 1800+ 2. A large powerful mast on low frequency is good for voice. A data network is designed differently. It is made up of very many, small, modular components each supporting a small area (Node Bs, RNCs - can go to as small as a room! (picocells)) ...these are then connected to a very high capacity data network. To set this up to a level that gives Safcom and Airtel,(..mostly Saf) serious pause would cost billionsWacha tuone! WSR has the billions... Plus now money coming in will be clean. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2015 Posts: 467 Location: Nairobi
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quicksand wrote:kawi254 wrote:The 700 MHz frequency assigned to JTL will be the major advantage i.e one tower (eNB) can cover larger areas.
how they got that frequency is story for another day. . A low frequency is good but there are 2 problems: 1. Many phones operate at higher bands, typically 1800+ 2. A large powerful mast on low frequency is good for voice. A data network is designed differently. It is made up of very many, small, modular components each supporting a small area (Node Bs, RNCs - can go to as small as a room! (picocells)) ... these are then connected to a very high capacity data network. To set this up to a level that gives Safcom and Airtel,(..mostly Saf) serious pause would cost billionsWacha tuone! JTL already has terrestial fibre and ideally they will be connecting their Node Bs to existing fibre. Anyway, wacha tuone.. Competition is good, subscribers will benefit and maybe after giants fight each other another 'Essar/Yu' may exit the market.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/30/2011 Posts: 207
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I think Wanjikus could have a savior in a phone brand they are familiar and comfortable with...
Nokia - Kiano.
The new Nokia smartphones (Nokia 3, 5, 6 & 8) - running on the Android platform - support Band 28 ama ukipenda are Faiba 4G compliant.
Even the 'low-end' Nokia 2 that was launched locally at about KES 11,000
The much awaited Nokia 9 (that has a Galaxy Edge design) will also be Faiba 4G compliant...
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