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Ericsson
#9136 Posted : Tuesday, December 05, 2017 8:38:50 AM
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maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
KQ shares will keep gaining at least 9.4% each day until the point of supply is reached, being KES 21.. Those with weak hearts are allowed to offload at KES 18 which will print this Friday




Full year results will be impacted and this will affect recovery
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#9137 Posted : Tuesday, December 05, 2017 8:49:55 AM
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maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
KQ shares will keep gaining at least 9.4% each day until the point of supply is reached, being KES 21.. Those with weak hearts are allowed to offload at KES 18 which will print this Friday




This was trending on Twitter since Saturday.. No impact on the share price rally. Watch and learn


They havent started the strike...one of the busiest routes the impact will be crazy... That Chepkwony guy had promised the fellows an increment once restructuring took place... well he resigned and no one wants to take responsibility esp with Sebastian biting people's heads.smile

These strikes and the management solid and prompt response gives us a good sign that we have been blessed with a tough CEO and sober board.. Sema kufutwa!

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#9138 Posted : Tuesday, December 05, 2017 8:52:54 AM
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Today we open and close at KES 14.80

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#9139 Posted : Tuesday, December 05, 2017 9:40:46 AM
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kayhara wrote:
obiero wrote:
kayhara wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
obiero wrote:
1 trading day to lift-off.. Mark these words, minimum KES 8.52, maximum intra day KES 14. Fair value KES 12.5

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Obiero for the title of Supporter of the Year... KQ should give you free tickets

Hehe.. I accept the award


@obiero How do you value stocks? Fundamentals or speculative information?

Obiero is buy low sell high and move on

I have a mixture of both strategies but I prefer speculation based on inside knowledge via the exchange bar

Fair value KES 12.5 when factoring-in the Open Offer.. Now is absolutely the wrong time to sell and not the most opportune time to buy for existing shareholders.. Though existing shareholders with hearts of steel may accumulate sub KES 22

I am tempted to buy at current price but I shall exercise restraint. Expect a continuous trip upwards to KES 18 upto release of the Open Offer circular followed by a rapid fall down immediately afterwards.. How low it will go shall be anyone's guess, but mine remains KES 12.5


@ obiero today you've given solid analysis.
Keep the fire blazing.
Though kes 18 is a pipedream.

Let's talk about this same post on 08.12.2017

From where I stand, the pipedream is gaining momentum

Why is the price not shooting yet there is no supply, I will never understand KQ.

Daily limits at the NSE.. Checkout the minimum and maximum price on each trading day since resumption of trading. The share will keep gaining at least 9.4% each day until the point of supply is reached, being KES 21.. Those with weak hearts are allowed to offload at KES 18 which will print this Friday

oh, I was wondering why my Itrader is showing the limit to be 0-27.30 for kQ.

@spikes the so called pipedream of KES 18 is two trading sessions away. Today KES 15 has printed firmly

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#9140 Posted : Tuesday, December 05, 2017 10:03:29 AM
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I have today thrown caution to the wind and bought an additional 1,000 shares at the prevailing discount.. I'm still shocked at the persons who are selling right now

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#9141 Posted : Tuesday, December 05, 2017 11:18:45 AM
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The exchange bar confirms KQ Lenders Co Ltd have rejected minority shareholders Open Offer at KES 1.8 with 5:1 ratio suggesting that the number of issued shares proposed being 813,160,565 shall weigh down quick price appreciation and have counterproposed KES 3.1 at 3:1 implying 487,896,339. Luckily Michael Joseph, Sebastian, GoK as well as KLM are batting on the minority shareholders team

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#9142 Posted : Tuesday, December 05, 2017 11:37:23 AM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
ProverB wrote:

A dilution close to 20times what one holds..
A parachute offered of 4:1 at an additional cost of 1.80 per share..

A company that is still in the red despite sigh of relief from improved margins..though revenues are flat.

And we expect rapid rise in share price? Laughing out loudly


1. Irrational exuberance on part of shareholders.

2. Ukiritimba.. Whatever that means..on part of KQ.

Nevertheless, carry on. KQ will be good for those who come in later to collect the pieces..but not existing shareholders.

Strictly talking shares trading..
Lessons from safaricom upon listing.. Volume of shares available for trading slumped share price for a long while despite good fundamentals.

Large volumes of KQ shares available as of 29th will have to be wiped out by larger buyers to ensure demand always outweighs supply for the share price to go up.

Unless all existing shareholders REFUSE to sell..rise in share price ni uchawi.

There should be a refusal to sell for any price below KES 21.50 per share, unless the Open Offer details are rolled out before 29.11.2017


Open offer/rights issue for KQ probably next year.
ksh.21.50 per share on 29.11.2017 ni ndoto hiyo.
Are we saying that KQ will be worth more than KCB in terms of market capitalisation in the NSE.
5.822bn shares *ksh.21.5=
The company is just from announcing HY loss of ksh.3.8bn after tax.
29.11.2017 my prediction is KQ will be trading at between 1.50-2.00 per share

That's where you go wrong, quick math will show you that the banks converted debt to equity at a given sum total based on KES 2.13 per share which was then split at a ratio of 1:4 giving rise to the new floor of KES 8.52.. It's practically impossible for any sane existing investor to trade at any sum below KES 8.52.. Am I deluded or extremely wise..

Meanwhile KQ now has the most vibrant board at the NSE http://www.businessdaily...966-14hskl1z/index.html


I previously mentioned Oduor Otieno in this forum. He has a track record that can be vouched. Carol Musyoka is also an intelligent lady.

@proverb still thinks it is uchawi or ukiritimba?? 5 days of maximum gains and counting.. Let's spare a moment to think of the trader who bought at KES 2.10 just five days ago now up 614%

KQ ABP 4.26
Ericsson
#9143 Posted : Tuesday, December 05, 2017 12:18:32 PM
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obiero wrote:
The exchange bar confirms KQ Lenders Co Ltd have rejected minority shareholders Open Offer at KES 1.8 with 5:1 ratio suggesting that the number of issued shares proposed being 813,160,565 shall weigh down quick price appreciation and have counterproposed KES 3.1 at 3:1 implying 487,896,339. Luckily Michael Joseph, Sebastian, GoK as well as KLM are batting on the minority shareholders team



Waah
Already push and pull imeanza.
KQ lenders want to cash out very fast and don't want their plans derailed
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#9144 Posted : Tuesday, December 05, 2017 1:15:55 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
The exchange bar confirms KQ Lenders Co Ltd have rejected minority shareholders Open Offer at KES 1.8 with 5:1 ratio suggesting that the number of issued shares proposed being 813,160,565 shall weigh down quick price appreciation and have counterproposed KES 3.1 at 3:1 implying 487,896,339. Luckily Michael Joseph, Sebastian, GoK as well as KLM are batting on the minority shareholders team



Waah
Already push and pull imeanza.
KQ lenders want to cash out very fast and don't want their plans derailed

It was bound to happen.. Good thing is that the EGM resolution was binding upon the board to decide in the best interest of the minority shareholders.. What KQ Lenders Co Ltd are doing is lobbying

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#9145 Posted : Tuesday, December 05, 2017 1:30:01 PM
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obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
@Obiero please explain to me like to a little child why KQ is splitting shares, issuing worthless deferred shares.

The deffered shares were necessary to get a low entry price of KES 2.13 which would be lower than prevailing market price. Thereafter a consolidation would hike the price past market value.. Meanwhile I can guarantee that most of the trades happening now on KQ are fictional. There's no logical reason for anyone who has been holding onto KQ to sell now and worse still to buy now while the Open Offer will give a massive discount

Obiero always ahead of time

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#9146 Posted : Tuesday, December 05, 2017 1:32:13 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Am glad I got my haircut at kes 4.60.
I will be back sub 2 bob.

Sub 2bob in which year? Or in which currency?

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#9147 Posted : Tuesday, December 05, 2017 9:55:03 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Banks have been given an opportunity to recover their money plus interest they would have earned during the tenure of the loan

Not really ie banks (KQ Lenders Co) owns billions of shares while the buyers are limited. Plus is KQ Lenders Co locked in? @obiero says no and then KLC should sell whatever they can! Half a loaf > None!
KQLC has to lend more cash to KQ at preferential rates (2% I was told)... That’s an implicit haircut. The smart bank(er)s stayed away from lending to KQ.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#9148 Posted : Tuesday, December 05, 2017 10:06:37 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Banks have been given an opportunity to recover their money plus interest they would have earned during the tenure of the loan

Not really ie banks (KQ Lenders Co) owns billions of shares while the buyers are limited. Plus is KQ Lenders Co locked in? @obiero says no and then KLC should sell whatever they can! Half a loaf > None!
KQLC has to lend more cash to KQ at preferential rates (2% I was told)... That’s an implicit haircut. The smart bank(er)s stayed away from lending to KQ.

All top 3 tier one banks are inside KQ Lenders Co Ltd.. KQ had 13 banks which were all willing to lend to the airline, while only KCB priced in the risk.. Meanwhile, there is no lock in period prior to sale of shares but the bankers know early disposal will sink the price.. Only minority shares are currently trading, the volumes show this

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#9149 Posted : Tuesday, December 05, 2017 10:09:25 PM
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obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:

I am tempted to buy at current price but I shall exercise restraint. Expect a continuous trip upwards to KES 18 upto release of the Open Offer circular followed by a rapid fall down immediately afterwards.. How low it will go shall be anyone's guess, but mine remains KES 12.5


@ obiero today you've given solid analysis.
Keep the fire blazing.
Though kes 18 is a pipedream.

Let's talk about this same post on 08.12.2017

From where I stand, the pipedream is gaining momentum

@spikes the so called pipedream of KES 18 is two trading sessions away. Today KES 15 has printed firmly

Tomorrow market opens with KES 16.4 as KQ flies head first towards the so called pipedream of KES 18 as alleged by the clown @spikes.. Trading in shares requires deep understanding of trends

KQ ABP 4.26
Spikes
#9150 Posted : Wednesday, December 06, 2017 2:10:20 AM
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obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:

I am tempted to buy at current price but I shall exercise restraint. Expect a continuous trip upwards to KES 18 upto release of the Open Offer circular followed by a rapid fall down immediately afterwards.. How low it will go shall be anyone's guess, but mine remains KES 12.5


@ obiero today you've given solid analysis.
Keep the fire blazing.
Though kes 18 is a pipedream.

Let's talk about this same post on 08.12.2017

From where I stand, the pipedream is gaining momentum

@spikes the so called pipedream of KES 18 is two trading sessions away. Today KES 15 has printed firmly

Tomorrow market opens with KES 16.4 as KQ flies head first towards the so called pipedream of KES 18 as alleged by the clown @spikes.. Trading in shares requires deep understanding of trends


This obnoxious bugger from great lakes region . A mere bugger without debonair. NKT!
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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