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murchr
#41 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 2:42:23 AM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
FRM2011 wrote:

Madam Admin,

If this was 5 years ago, there could be Wazuans who would be looking at Ndii's arrest as a piece of a giant jigsaw puzzle that most Kenyans cannot and will never see. They would be driving the conversation trying to figure out where the piece belongs in the big scheme of things.

Make no mistake, the occasional ignoramus would crash the party, loud and uncultured, and the wise men would pull back. He (the ignoramus) would not even see the jigsaw puzzle let alone know where to place the puzzling piece. His grasp of issues was/is always karumaindo-ish. And he would claw back quietly to the dark hole of ignorance he came from.

And that is how wazua became the Runda of internet forums. When one of those "downtown" forums was closed, their members could not fit in here.

Now the wise men went quiet. And the "karumaindo" gang drives the conversations.

As auditors, we have a standard called ISA 570. It requires the auditor to assess the ability of an entity to continue operating as a going concern.



Now what do you want admin to do if other wazuans are not thinking like you?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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harrydre
#42 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 4:25:18 AM
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Joined: 7/10/2008
Posts: 9,131
Location: Kanjo
Afinywe kabisa. Yeye nataka pindua serikali. Democratically elected government? Akwende.
i.am.back!!!!
washiku
#43 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 8:28:58 AM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 5/9/2007
Posts: 13,095
FRM2011 wrote:

Madam Admin,

If this was 5 years ago, there could be Wazuans who would be looking at Ndii's arrest as a piece of a giant jigsaw puzzle that most Kenyans cannot and will never see. They would be driving the conversation trying to figure out where the piece belongs in the big scheme of things.

Make no mistake, the occasional ignoramus would crash the party, loud and uncultured, and the wise men would pull back. He (the ignoramus) would not even see the jigsaw puzzle let alone know where to place the puzzling piece. His grasp of issues was/is always karumaindo-ish. And he would claw back quietly to the dark hole of ignorance he came from.

And that is how wazua became the Runda of internet forums. When one of those "downtown" forums was closed, their members could not fit in here.

Now the wise men went quiet. And the "karumaindo" gang drives the conversations.

As auditors, we have a standard called ISA 570. It requires the auditor to assess the ability of an entity to continue operating as a going concern.



You must be talking about yourself. Just coming after you driving several conversations.
thuks
#44 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 8:32:01 AM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 10/8/2008
Posts: 1,575
murchr wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

Madam Admin,

If this was 5 years ago, there could be Wazuans who would be looking at Ndii's arrest as a piece of a giant jigsaw puzzle that most Kenyans cannot and will never see. They would be driving the conversation trying to figure out where the piece belongs in the big scheme of things.

Make no mistake, the occasional ignoramus would crash the party, loud and uncultured, and the wise men would pull back. He (the ignoramus) would not even see the jigsaw puzzle let alone know where to place the puzzling piece. His grasp of issues was/is always karumaindo-ish. And he would claw back quietly to the dark hole of ignorance he came from.

And that is how wazua became the Runda of internet forums. When one of those "downtown" forums was closed, their members could not fit in here.

Now the wise men went quiet. And the "karumaindo" gang drives the conversations.

As auditors, we have a standard called ISA 570. It requires the auditor to assess the ability of an entity to continue operating as a going concern.



Now what do you want admin to do if other wazuans are not thinking like you?

Kuna graph mzuri @masukuma ameweka. Tafadhali uiangazie tena.
I care!
Lolest!
#45 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 8:51:55 AM
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Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
Ndii is Ndei from Kiambu

From a village called Kiawaroga in eastern Limuru on Kiambu-Limuru road
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
FRM2011
#46 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 12:06:54 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 11/5/2010
Posts: 2,459
Amores wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

Madam Admin,

If this was 5 years ago, there could be Wazuans who would be looking at Ndii's arrest as a piece of a giant jigsaw puzzle that most Kenyans cannot and will never see. They would be driving the conversation trying to figure out where the piece belongs in the big scheme of things.

Make no mistake, the occasional ignoramus would crash the party, loud and uncultured, and the wise men would pull back. He (the ignoramus) would not even see the jigsaw puzzle let alone know where to place the puzzling piece. His grasp of issues was/is always karumaindo-ish. And he would claw back quietly to the dark hole of ignorance he came from.

And that is how wazua became the Runda of internet forums. When one of those "downtown" forums was closed, their members could not fit in here.

Now the wise men went quiet. And the "karumaindo" gang drives the conversations.

As auditors, we have a standard called ISA 570. It requires the auditor to assess the ability of an entity to continue operating as a going concern.



This is Hubris.


I have never claimed to be a wise man. But we have had contributors in wazua who always left me in awe. Guys who would always give a perspective that we can never read in newspapers.

@masukuma's thoughts on culture are in a class of their own. I once took a serious client for lunch and the discussion went to matters of culture. I "borrowed" and shared @masukuma's material with him and that old man has never looked at me the same way. He has invited me severally to join his social circle.

Right now we know Ndii was arrested. I would want to read whether the ODPP can realistically bring a solid case against him. Not the political theatrics.

We have so many questions. Does it mean the govt is worried about the people's assembly ? If not, what message was the govt sending by arresting him. Who was the message intended for ? And so many more.

We used to get answers to such questions before. And very illuminating perspectives. Not any more.

I am meeting a couple of guys in the afternoon. When Ndii's matter comes up for discussion, all I have is @harrydre's Karumaindo opinion.
Liv
#47 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 12:25:46 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 11/14/2006
Posts: 1,311
My views...Ndii is not interested in secession. He is a strategist and he has political ambitions.. He has seen beyond Uhuru Kenyatta regime.

We don't know what he has said or done in order to be arrested....but he must have been aware the NIS were following his every move. Through these arrests and the so called 'persecution' his Brand becomes more known.

After 2022.... He will come out forcefully against the Ruto Admin and bring the agikuyu and luo nations together like Kibaki did.... History repeating itself...an economist will become president again...replacing a kalenjin in 2027 or 2032...hoping baba will say Tosha again.... Talk of strategy...lol


quicksand
#48 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 12:39:04 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 7/5/2010
Posts: 2,061
Location: Nairobi
FRM2011 wrote:
Amores wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

Madam Admin,

If this was 5 years ago, there could be Wazuans who would be looking at Ndii's arrest as a piece of a giant jigsaw puzzle that most Kenyans cannot and will never see. They would be driving the conversation trying to figure out where the piece belongs in the big scheme of things.

Make no mistake, the occasional ignoramus would crash the party, loud and uncultured, and the wise men would pull back. He (the ignoramus) would not even see the jigsaw puzzle let alone know where to place the puzzling piece. His grasp of issues was/is always karumaindo-ish. And he would claw back quietly to the dark hole of ignorance he came from.

And that is how wazua became the Runda of internet forums. When one of those "downtown" forums was closed, their members could not fit in here.

Now the wise men went quiet. And the "karumaindo" gang drives the conversations.

As auditors, we have a standard called ISA 570. It requires the auditor to assess the ability of an entity to continue operating as a going concern.



This is Hubris.


I have never claimed to be a wise man. But we have had contributors in wazua who always left me in awe. Guys who would always give a perspective that we can never read in newspapers.

@masukuma's thoughts on culture are in a class of their own. I once took a serious client for lunch and the discussion went to matters of culture. I "borrowed" and shared @masukuma's material with him and that old man has never looked at me the same way. He has invited me severally to join his social circle.

Right now we know Ndii was arrested. I would want to read whether the ODPP can realistically bring a solid case against him. Not the political theatrics.

We have so many questions. Does it mean the govt is worried about the people's assembly ? If not, what message was the govt sending by arresting him. Who was the message intended for ? And so many more.

We used to get answers to such questions before. And very illuminating perspectives. Not any more.

I am meeting a couple of guys in the afternoon. When Ndii's matter comes up for discussion, all I have is @harrydre's Karumaindo opinion.


Calling @harrydre's input karumaindoish is exactly the kind of hubris Amores is referring to. You have appointed yourself the judge of other people's opinions, in effect decreeing what has weight and what doesn't without countering or dissecting the substance of the argument. Its cleverly crafted, dog-whistle invective reeking of pretentious standoffishness.

muganda
#49 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 12:42:27 PM
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Joined: 9/15/2006
Posts: 3,905
Lolest!
#50 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 12:52:25 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
Liv wrote:
My views...Ndii is not interested in secession. He is a strategist and he has political ambitions.. He has seen beyond Uhuru Kenyatta regime.

We don't know what he has said or done in order to be arrested....but he must have been aware the NIS were following his every move. Through these arrests and the so called 'persecution' his Brand becomes more known.

After 2022.... He will come out forcefully against the Ruto Admin and bring the agikuyu and luo nations together like Kibaki did.... History repeating itself...an economist will become president again...replacing a kalenjin in 2027 or 2032...hoping baba will say Tosha again.... Talk of strategy...lol



Not impossible...some weeks ago, a friend was pointing out to the similarity of Ndii's loyalty and prominence in Raila's group to that of Simba wa Nyeri-Ngunjiri Wambugu- sometime back

Let's wait and see
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
washiku
#51 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 1:04:46 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 5/9/2007
Posts: 13,095
Lolest! wrote:
Liv wrote:
My views...Ndii is not interested in secession. He is a strategist and he has political ambitions.. He has seen beyond Uhuru Kenyatta regime.

We don't know what he has said or done in order to be arrested....but he must have been aware the NIS were following his every move. Through these arrests and the so called 'persecution' his Brand becomes more known.

After 2022.... He will come out forcefully against the Ruto Admin and bring the agikuyu and luo nations together like Kibaki did.... History repeating itself...an economist will become president again...replacing a kalenjin in 2027 or 2032...hoping baba will say Tosha again.... Talk of strategy...lol



Not impossible...some weeks ago, a friend was pointing out to the similarity of Ndii's loyalty and prominence in Raila's group to that of Simba wa Nyeri-Ngunjiri Wambugu- sometime back

Let's wait and see


So in essence wanatumia baba vibaya eeh? You create a name using him then you chomoka and demonize him. By the way how come it did not work for Miguna?
eboomerang
#52 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 1:08:20 PM
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Joined: 6/27/2011
Posts: 301
Location: Nairobi
Clearly, succession battles at play also splitting the post RAO pie.
wukan
#53 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 1:16:08 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 11/13/2015
Posts: 1,588
murchr wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

Madam Admin,

If this was 5 years ago, there could be Wazuans who would be looking at Ndii's arrest as a piece of a giant jigsaw puzzle that most Kenyans cannot and will never see. They would be driving the conversation trying to figure out where the piece belongs in the big scheme of things.

Make no mistake, the occasional ignoramus would crash the party, loud and uncultured, and the wise men would pull back. He (the ignoramus) would not even see the jigsaw puzzle let alone know where to place the puzzling piece. His grasp of issues was/is always karumaindo-ish. And he would claw back quietly to the dark hole of ignorance he came from.

And that is how wazua became the Runda of internet forums. When one of those "downtown" forums was closed, their members could not fit in here.

Now the wise men went quiet. And the "karumaindo" gang drives the conversations.

As auditors, we have a standard called ISA 570. It requires the auditor to assess the ability of an entity to continue operating as a going concern.



Now what do you want admin to do if other wazuans are not thinking like you?


@murchr, do you recall when you came to our posh forum huko skyscrapercity and you started quoting a whole series of pictures and we told you that's so uncultured. I think that's what @FRM2011 means.

Wazua is more of Buruburu of internet forums the "downtown" taking over slowly. Instead of instilling a culture you leave for the more posh forums just like Buru guys moving to Lavi and Kile. Wazua blue section still looks good
murchr
#54 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 1:23:29 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
FRM2011 wrote:
Amores wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

Madam Admin,

If this was 5 years ago, there could be Wazuans who would be looking at Ndii's arrest as a piece of a giant jigsaw puzzle that most Kenyans cannot and will never see. They would be driving the conversation trying to figure out where the piece belongs in the big scheme of things.

Make no mistake, the occasional ignoramus would crash the party, loud and uncultured, and the wise men would pull back. He (the ignoramus) would not even see the jigsaw puzzle let alone know where to place the puzzling piece. His grasp of issues was/is always karumaindo-ish. And he would claw back quietly to the dark hole of ignorance he came from.

And that is how wazua became the Runda of internet forums. When one of those "downtown" forums was closed, their members could not fit in here.

Now the wise men went quiet. And the "karumaindo" gang drives the conversations.

As auditors, we have a standard called ISA 570. It requires the auditor to assess the ability of an entity to continue operating as a going concern.



This is Hubris.


I have never claimed to be a wise man. But we have had contributors in wazua who always left me in awe. Guys who would always give a perspective that we can never read in newspapers.

@masukuma's thoughts on culture are in a class of their own. I once took a serious client for lunch and the discussion went to matters of culture. I "borrowed" and shared @masukuma's material with him and that old man has never looked at me the same way. He has invited me severally to join his social circle.

Right now we know Ndii was arrested. I would want to read whether the ODPP can realistically bring a solid case against him. Not the political theatrics.

We have so many questions. Does it mean the govt is worried about the people's assembly ? If not, what message was the govt sending by arresting him. Who was the message intended for ? And so many more.

We used to get answers to such questions before. And very illuminating perspectives. Not any more.

I am meeting a couple of guys in the afternoon. When Ndii's matter comes up for discussion, all I have is @harrydre's Karumaindo opinion.



So you are mad coz wazuans are not giving you content for discussion out there? Laughing out loudly
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
murchr
#55 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 1:33:39 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
wukan wrote:
murchr wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

Madam Admin,

If this was 5 years ago, there could be Wazuans who would be looking at Ndii's arrest as a piece of a giant jigsaw puzzle that most Kenyans cannot and will never see. They would be driving the conversation trying to figure out where the piece belongs in the big scheme of things.

Make no mistake, the occasional ignoramus would crash the party, loud and uncultured, and the wise men would pull back. He (the ignoramus) would not even see the jigsaw puzzle let alone know where to place the puzzling piece. His grasp of issues was/is always karumaindo-ish. And he would claw back quietly to the dark hole of ignorance he came from.

And that is how wazua became the Runda of internet forums. When one of those "downtown" forums was closed, their members could not fit in here.

Now the wise men went quiet. And the "karumaindo" gang drives the conversations.

As auditors, we have a standard called ISA 570. It requires the auditor to assess the ability of an entity to continue operating as a going concern.



Now what do you want admin to do if other wazuans are not thinking like you?


@murchr, do you recall when you came to our posh forum huko skyscrapercity and you started quoting a whole series of pictures and we told you that's so uncultured. I think that's what @FRM2011 means.

Wazua is more of Buruburu of internet forums the "downtown" taking over slowly. Instead of instilling a culture you leave for the more posh forums just like Buru guys moving to Lavi and Kile. Wazua blue section still looks good


So it was you guys? Skyscraper is now dead no longer a forum for project discussion rather a picture sharing forum with cheerleaders and bully gossips. Anyway, I show up and post however I want and your bullying doesn't stop me.

I like the freedom in Wazua lately. Members should not be forced to think in a certain way or post only certain stuff.

What's special with Ndii's arrest anyway? Let the cops do their job, any one is free tho to talk about it and express their opinion
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
aemathenge
#56 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 1:42:35 PM
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Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,434
Location: Kerugoya
Deleted due to repetition herein below.
quicksand
#57 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 1:43:19 PM
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Joined: 7/5/2010
Posts: 2,061
Location: Nairobi
muganda wrote:


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She looks like she eats nails for breakfast. Very tough lady.
aemathenge
#58 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 1:44:34 PM
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Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,434
Location: Kerugoya
wukan wrote:
Wazua is more of Buruburu of internet forums the "downtown" taking over slowly.

Instead of instilling a culture you leave for the more posh forums just like Buru guys moving to Lavi and Kile. Wazua blue section still looks good


Could you be so kind and give us a link to a local forum more posh than The Virtual Republic of Wazua.

Please indulge me if you would.
Liv
#59 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 1:51:56 PM
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Joined: 11/14/2006
Posts: 1,311
washiku wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Liv wrote:
My views...Ndii is not interested in secession. He is a strategist and he has political ambitions.. He has seen beyond Uhuru Kenyatta regime.

We don't know what he has said or done in order to be arrested....but he must have been aware the NIS were following his every move. Through these arrests and the so called 'persecution' his Brand becomes more known.

After 2022.... He will come out forcefully against the Ruto Admin and bring the agikuyu and luo nations together like Kibaki did.... History repeating itself...an economist will become president again...replacing a kalenjin in 2027 or 2032...hoping baba will say Tosha again.... Talk of strategy...lol



Not impossible...some weeks ago, a friend was pointing out to the similarity of Ndii's loyalty and prominence in Raila's group to that of Simba wa Nyeri-Ngunjiri Wambugu- sometime back

Let's wait and see


So in essence wanatumia baba vibaya eeh? You create a name using him then you chomoka and demonize him. By the way how come it did not work for Miguna?



Miguna is still WIP...his name is now a household name... if he will stand for Nairobi Governor position on ODM/NASA ticket, he will win in a landslide.... people will be very tired of Sonko just the same way they were of Kidero.
FRM2011
#60 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 2:33:21 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 11/5/2010
Posts: 2,459
murchr wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Amores wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

Madam Admin,

If this was 5 years ago, there could be Wazuans who would be looking at Ndii's arrest as a piece of a giant jigsaw puzzle that most Kenyans cannot and will never see. They would be driving the conversation trying to figure out where the piece belongs in the big scheme of things.

Make no mistake, the occasional ignoramus would crash the party, loud and uncultured, and the wise men would pull back. He (the ignoramus) would not even see the jigsaw puzzle let alone know where to place the puzzling piece. His grasp of issues was/is always karumaindo-ish. And he would claw back quietly to the dark hole of ignorance he came from.

And that is how wazua became the Runda of internet forums. When one of those "downtown" forums was closed, their members could not fit in here.

Now the wise men went quiet. And the "karumaindo" gang drives the conversations.

As auditors, we have a standard called ISA 570. It requires the auditor to assess the ability of an entity to continue operating as a going concern.



This is Hubris.


I have never claimed to be a wise man. But we have had contributors in wazua who always left me in awe. Guys who would always give a perspective that we can never read in newspapers.

@masukuma's thoughts on culture are in a class of their own. I once took a serious client for lunch and the discussion went to matters of culture. I "borrowed" and shared @masukuma's material with him and that old man has never looked at me the same way. He has invited me severally to join his social circle.

Right now we know Ndii was arrested. I would want to read whether the ODPP can realistically bring a solid case against him. Not the political theatrics.

We have so many questions. Does it mean the govt is worried about the people's assembly ? If not, what message was the govt sending by arresting him. Who was the message intended for ? And so many more.

We used to get answers to such questions before. And very illuminating perspectives. Not any more.

I am meeting a couple of guys in the afternoon. When Ndii's matter comes up for discussion, all I have is @harrydre's Karumaindo opinion.



So you are mad coz wazuans are not giving you content for discussion out there? Laughing out loudly


Actually I prefer picking the minds of people more intelligent than I am. Why else would I be here ? Its a marketplace of ideas. You go to a market that sells that which you desire but don't have.
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