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kiash wrote:Is there a formula for the distribution of funds to the counties? what i usually hear is population.
Is there anything like how much a county really contributes to the national kitty in form of revenue. Counties should receive revenues according to how much the contribute. Those who contribute the most get the most.
Any info on the sharing formula? It is a complex formula that factors in population, land mass and current state of development. This is how counties like Turkana get a generous allocation. Government's main job is to maintain stability, law and order. A regional inequity of resources and opportunities is a major recipe for conflict so even as revenue is allocated, regions that are marginalized have to be given more than they currently contribute so as to uplift them.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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Current formulà doesn't inspire innovation. By now CoG or KNBS or Ministry should have developed a tool to measure performance by these counties...with certain percentage of funding being reserved for good performance
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Food for thought for Uhuru as he embarks on final lap. The only woman field mashal in the Kenya Land defence council, Muthoni wa Kirima, was asked what she thinks about Kenyatta Jnr. "She is reluctant to discuss Kenyatta Jnr, who was swept into power on the back of a tribally charged campaign that saw near-total support from the Kikuyus. When asked what she thinks of the son of Mzee she prefers to recite a cryptic saying from her native Gikuyu language: "From the womb comes a warrior, a king, a rich man, a criminal and a killer." " Nda yumaga muici na murogi" https://mg.co.za/article...-the-dread-of-the-empire.
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FRM si una umia aki? Uhuru is President, it doesn't matter what whoever thinks. Move on "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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After8/8 he had tried to camoflouge as a good sportsman "aliyekubali kushindwa". Kumbe he was in shock. @From,Travel light,its not that serious.Even for us who support Jubilee,we are gaining zero.Just a feel good thing otherwise we continue with daily struggles of life. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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[quote=FRM2011] Food for thought for Uhuru as he embarks on final lap. The only woman field mashal in the Kenya Land defence council, Muthoni wa Kirima, was asked what she thinks about Kenyatta Jnr. "She is reluctant to discuss Kenyatta Jnr, who was swept into power on the back of a tribally charged campaign that saw near-total support from the Kikuyus. When asked what she thinks of the son of Mzee she prefers to recite a cryptic saying from her native Gikuyu language: "From the womb comes a warrior, a king, a rich man, a criminal and a killer." " Nda yumaga muici na murogi" https://mg.co.za/article...he-dread-of-the-empire.[/quote] I find such feedback to be hypocritical to be honest, not just because I am supporter of the President, but for the obvious fact in Kenya, people vote by tribe. This was the basis of the formation of NASA; bring tribal kings and beat jubilee. It failed, because UK was able to solidify his base and make inroads in some of the areas where NASA was calculating their 10 M strong nonsense. Watu warudi job, the rest is bla bla. I am happy
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Amores wrote:[quote=FRM2011] Food for thought for Uhuru as he embarks on final lap. The only woman field mashal in the Kenya Land defence council, Muthoni wa Kirima, was asked what she thinks about Kenyatta Jnr. "She is reluctant to discuss Kenyatta Jnr, who was swept into power on the back of a tribally charged campaign that saw near-total support from the Kikuyus. When asked what she thinks of the son of Mzee she prefers to recite a cryptic saying from her native Gikuyu language: "From the womb comes a warrior, a king, a rich man, a criminal and a killer." " Nda yumaga muici na murogi" https://mg.co.za/article...he-dread-of-the-empire.[/quote] I find such feedback to be hypocritical to be honest, not just because I am supporter of the President, but for the obvious fact in Kenya, people vote by tribe. This was the basis of the formation of NASA; bring tribal kings and beat jubilee. It failed, because UK was able to solidify his base and make inroads in some of the areas where NASA was calculating their 10 M strong nonsense. Watu warudi job, the rest is bla bla.
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Kusadikika wrote:kiash wrote:Is there a formula for the distribution of funds to the counties? what i usually hear is population.
Is there anything like how much a county really contributes to the national kitty in form of revenue. Counties should receive revenues according to how much the contribute. Those who contribute the most get the most.
Any info on the sharing formula? It is a complex formula that factors in population, land mass and current state of development. This is how counties like Turkana get a generous allocation. Government's main job is to maintain stability, law and order. A regional inequity of resources and opportunities is a major recipe for conflict so even as revenue is allocated, regions that are marginalized have to be given more than they currently contribute so as to uplift them. This formula screws Mombasa County a good one, with low resident population and being the smallest county add to this that it's considered urban hence no equalization fund, yet most people in Kwale and Kilifi work in Mombasa go to coast general etc, same happens for kiambu, kiambu hospital treats a huge number of people from Nairobi this should be checked To Each His Own
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kayhara wrote:Kusadikika wrote:kiash wrote:Is there a formula for the distribution of funds to the counties? what i usually hear is population.
Is there anything like how much a county really contributes to the national kitty in form of revenue. Counties should receive revenues according to how much the contribute. Those who contribute the most get the most.
Any info on the sharing formula? It is a complex formula that factors in population, land mass and current state of development. This is how counties like Turkana get a generous allocation. Government's main job is to maintain stability, law and order. A regional inequity of resources and opportunities is a major recipe for conflict so even as revenue is allocated, regions that are marginalized have to be given more than they currently contribute so as to uplift them. This formula screws Mombasa County a good one, with low resident population and being the smallest county add to this that it's considered urban hence no equalization fund, yet most people in Kwale and Kilifi work in Mombasa go to coast general etc, same happens for kiambu, kiambu hospital treats a huge number of people from Nairobi this should be checked And this equalisation fund, is it timebound or perpetual? If a county gets the funds and puts in a hole every year, shall we continue pumping money till end of time? Sonething wrong with this system. But when you point out you're labelled 'enemy of devolution' even though the converse is the case
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limanika wrote:We have a problem nobody wants to talk about. Of the 300b given to counties every year, what percentage of this generates 'real' wealth to feed back to the center? 14 counties collected local revenue of at least KES 500M in FY 2016/17 Nairobi 10,930M Mombasa 3,166M Kiambu 2,033M Nakuru 1,548M Narok 1,534M Machakos 1,259M Kisumu 1,004M Uasin Gishu 664M Bungoma 661M Nyeri 643M Kilifi 620M Kajiado 557M Meru 552M Muranga 507M Total local revenue from all 47 counties - 32,523M
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wukan wrote:limanika wrote:We have a problem nobody wants to talk about. Of the 300b given to counties every year, what percentage of this generates 'real' wealth to feed back to the center? 14 counties collected local revenue of at least KES 500M in FY 2016/17 Nairobi 10,930M Mombasa 3,166M Kiambu 2,033M Nakuru 1,548M Narok 1,534M Machakos 1,259M Kisumu 1,004M Uasin Gishu 664M Bungoma 661M Nyeri 643M Kilifi 620M Kajiado 557M Meru 552M Muranga 507M Total local revenue from all 47 counties - 32,523M 10% . yet in those figures there are serious man designed leakages, we can do better....... Kisumu 1B ok In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Angelica _ann wrote:wukan wrote:limanika wrote:We have a problem nobody wants to talk about. Of the 300b given to counties every year, what percentage of this generates 'real' wealth to feed back to the center? 14 counties collected local revenue of at least KES 500M in FY 2016/17 Nairobi 10,930M Mombasa 3,166M Kiambu 2,033M Nakuru 1,548M Narok 1,534M Machakos 1,259M Kisumu 1,004M Uasin Gishu 664M Bungoma 661M Nyeri 643M Kilifi 620M Kajiado 557M Meru 552M Muranga 507M Total local revenue from all 47 counties - 32,523M 10% . yet in those figures there are serious man designed leakages, we can do better....... Kisumu 1B ok I say Secede!! i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,590
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Angelica _ann wrote:wukan wrote:limanika wrote:We have a problem nobody wants to talk about. Of the 300b given to counties every year, what percentage of this generates 'real' wealth to feed back to the center? 14 counties collected local revenue of at least KES 500M in FY 2016/17 Nairobi 10,930M Mombasa 3,166M Kiambu 2,033M Nakuru 1,548M Narok 1,534M Machakos 1,259M Kisumu 1,004M Uasin Gishu 664M Bungoma 661M Nyeri 643M Kilifi 620M Kajiado 557M Meru 552M Muranga 507M Total local revenue from all 47 counties - 32,523M 10% . yet in those figures there are serious man designed leakages, we can do better....... Kisumu 1B ok There is a strong link between urbanization and revenue potential. Urban centers create the necessary economic densities attracting more capital. Any governor who is not focusing on urban growth and planning will not have the tax base. Very few counties are focusing on the things needed for the urban economy the water and sewer systems, waste-water treatment facilities, mass transit systems, organized markets, walk-able streets etc.
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