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VituVingiSana
#201 Posted : Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:39:10 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
@vvs I've just looked at the numbers. They have paid a very healthy chunk in finance costs, so your payback period of 6 years looks very conservative. Just take a look at the cash flow - it is real cash coming into the company, not paper profits.

@GG - Where are my numbers? I dont think I crunched any!

I have Total's Chevron acquisition document... to figure out what the costs for Preferred shares will be... Preference Dividends...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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MaichBlack
#202 Posted : Thursday, May 27, 2010 12:59:16 PM
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I really have to buy KK. Only one dilema, to buy after split or before split - given the sudden down turn in the market! @vvs - What's my window? On monday, will they be trading pre-split or post-split. I'm holding on for lower prices - take advantage of the panic! But how long should I wait? The market might start heading north just as suddenly. d'oh! d'oh!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Surealligator
#203 Posted : Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:02:36 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@surealligator - What's with your location showing as somewhere in Afghanistan???


I met My point man in Asia there. One Mohammed Said. I also get some businesses from that area and contribute the cash towards defeating injustice.
Go overdrive in purchasing the goods when there's blood on the streets, expecially if the blood is your own
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VituVingiSana
#204 Posted : Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:13:15 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
I really have to buy KK. Only one dilema, to buy after split or before split - given the sudden down turn in the market! @vvs - What's my window? On monday, will they be trading pre-split or post-split. I'm holding on for lower prices - take advantage of the panic! But how long should I wait? The market might start heading north just as suddenly. d'oh! d'oh!

Nothing like the present! You are so lucky to have cash on hand! You can get them between 98-100 for now. Post-split is tough to say BUT I am sure when the 1H 2010 results are released we will see much better prices!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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sparkly
#205 Posted : Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:46:54 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
I really have to buy KK. Only one dilema, to buy after split or before split - given the sudden down turn in the market! @vvs - What's my window? On monday, will they be trading pre-split or post-split. I'm holding on for lower prices - take advantage of the panic! But how long should I wait? The market might start heading north just as suddenly. d'oh! d'oh!

@MM for the longterm, doesn't matter, just buy. For the short-term you are abit late in the day. Should have bought at 45-55 (see earlier posts on this thread) don't expect, to make quick cash in the short term. Chances are the price will continue to fall.
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VituVingiSana
#206 Posted : Friday, May 28, 2010 8:47:07 AM
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@sparkly - There is life in KK even at 100 for the short-term... The split is coming & I hope they release 1Q 2010 results like Total did!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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sparkly
#207 Posted : Friday, May 28, 2010 10:47:10 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@sparkly - There is life in KK even at 100 for the short-term... The split is coming & I hope they release 1Q 2010 results like Total did!


@VVS, i know you to be a long-term investor, going by your investments in KQ, KPLC. Are you putting money in KK?
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VituVingiSana
#208 Posted : Friday, May 28, 2010 5:21:17 PM
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Yes, I put cash in KK... but I have little cash at the moment... I was hoping for a huge boost to KK post-split (which I thot wud happen immediately after the AGM)... then buy more KQ...

Of course, even the best laid plans can go awry!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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qw25041985
#209 Posted : Saturday, May 29, 2010 11:10:12 AM
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For those who are wondering where te price is headed once KenolKobil breaks it 52 week high which stands at ksh 110.00 (and it surely will very very soon),i calculated the various extension levels that are one its way.What i mean is that these are the various levels to offer resistance (you possible selling point)....First resistance level 120.50 , Second resistance level 127.00 ,Third resistance level 133.49.

If it passes one resistance level wait for it to hit the nedxt resistance level on its way up before you decide when to sell.DONOT sell (because it wld be damn foolish) in the middle to two resistance points as you willnot get maximum gains.


Happy investin folks.
Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
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the deal
#210 Posted : Saturday, May 29, 2010 11:15:04 AM
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qw25041985 wrote:
For those who are wondering where te price is headed once KenolKobil breaks it 52 week high which stands at ksh 110.00 (and it surely will very very soon),i calculated the various extension levels that are one its way.What i mean is that these are the various levels to offer resistance (you possible selling point)....First resistance level 120.50 , Second resistance level 127.00 ,Third resistance level 133.49.

If it passes one resistance level wait for it to hit the nedxt resistance level on its way up before you decide when to sell.DONOT sell (because it wld be damn foolish) in the middle to two resistance points as you willnot get maximum gains.


Happy investin folks.

@ qw u didnt factor in the split...its trading explit on 01-06-2010...
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