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Kenya Airways Half Year 2017/2018 loss of sh.3.8bn
Ericsson
#11 Posted : Saturday, November 18, 2017 7:49:20 AM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
[quote=Pesa Nane]



Even after the share restructuring the company will still be in negative equity.
ksh.44.2bn of debt is what has been converted to equity

Between the two of us, one has a challenge with reading.. See page 16 in regards to the equity position http://www.winda.co.ke/projectsafari.pdf[/quote]

I don't trust that document you have posted.The latest financial statements and final share restructuring has shown that what is contained there is vague
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#12 Posted : Saturday, November 18, 2017 7:55:16 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:



Even after the share restructuring the company will still be in negative equity.
ksh.44.2bn of debt is what has been converted to equity

Between the two of us, one has a challenge with reading.. See page 16 in regards to the equity position http://www.winda.co.ke/projectsafari.pdf


I don't trust that document you have posted.The latest financial statements and final share restructuring has shown that what is contained there is vague

That's the circular to shareholders. It is the guiding document for the restructure. Would you rather rely on your assumptions than an official document.. The word proforma, has a meaning

KQ ABP 4.26
Ericsson
#13 Posted : Saturday, November 18, 2017 8:09:03 AM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:



Even after the share restructuring the company will still be in negative equity.
ksh.44.2bn of debt is what has been converted to equity

Between the two of us, one has a challenge with reading.. See page 16 in regards to the equity position http://www.winda.co.ke/projectsafari.pdf


I don't trust that document you have posted.The latest financial statements and final share restructuring has shown that what is contained there is vague

That's the circular to shareholders. It is the guiding document for the restructure. Would you rather rely on your assumptions than an official document.. The word proforma, has a meaning


That official document has been passed by events.I am talking from the latest financial statement as at 30th September 2017 that was released yesterday
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#14 Posted : Saturday, November 18, 2017 8:38:48 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:



Even after the share restructuring the company will still be in negative equity.
ksh.44.2bn of debt is what has been converted to equity

Between the two of us, one has a challenge with reading.. See page 16 in regards to the equity position http://www.winda.co.ke/projectsafari.pdf


I don't trust that document you have posted.The latest financial statements and final share restructuring has shown that what is contained there is vague

That's the circular to shareholders. It is the guiding document for the restructure. Would you rather rely on your assumptions than an official document.. The word proforma, has a meaning


That official document has been passed by events.I am talking from the latest financial statement as at 30th September 2017 that was released yesterday

So you opine that the firm still has negative equity after the restructuring??

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#15 Posted : Sunday, November 19, 2017 8:15:45 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Loss after tax at sh.3.8bn compared to 4.8bn last year

Passenger numbers grew by 3.3% to 2.3mn
Operating profit grew by 52% to Kes 1,443 Million,overheads down by 8.9%, with a 20.5% decrease in loss after tax

Break-even possibly in sight for 2018-19 after the share conversion by KQ Lenders Co and a successful Rights Issue, with savings on interest payments, BUT KQ still remains uninvestable for me unless the price drops substantially and reflects a sensible PEG & PER.

BTW, Mikosz said the KLM-KQ JV is good for KQ. They want to add AF to the mix.

Document already dispatched to CMA and CAK for the proposed JV with Air France

KQ ABP 4.26
Ericsson
#16 Posted : Monday, November 20, 2017 9:29:47 AM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:



Even after the share restructuring the company will still be in negative equity.
ksh.44.2bn of debt is what has been converted to equity

Between the two of us, one has a challenge with reading.. See page 16 in regards to the equity position http://www.winda.co.ke/projectsafari.pdf


I don't trust that document you have posted.The latest financial statements and final share restructuring has shown that what is contained there is vague

That's the circular to shareholders. It is the guiding document for the restructure. Would you rather rely on your assumptions than an official document.. The word proforma, has a meaning


That official document has been passed by events.I am talking from the latest financial statement as at 30th September 2017 that was released yesterday

So you opine that the firm still has negative equity after the restructuring??

Yes
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#17 Posted : Monday, November 20, 2017 8:38:12 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Loss after tax at sh.3.8bn compared to 4.8bn last year

Passenger numbers grew by 3.3% to 2.3mn
Operating profit grew by 52% to Kes 1,443 Million,overheads down by 8.9%, with a 20.5% decrease in loss after tax

Break-even possibly in sight for 2018-19 after the share conversion by KQ Lenders Co and a successful Rights Issue, with savings on interest payments, BUT KQ still remains uninvestable for me unless the price drops substantially and reflects a sensible PEG & PER.

BTW, Mikosz said the KLM-KQ JV is good for KQ. They want to add AF to the mix.

Document already dispatched to CMA and CAK for the proposed JV with Air France

Air France flights shall now be operating to Nairobi after decades absence. Sebastian works with high speed http://www.businessdaily...95368-y9cv90z/index.html

KQ ABP 4.26
Chaka
#18 Posted : Monday, November 20, 2017 8:48:31 PM
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Thought AF and KL merged?
http://www.airfranceklm.com/en

VituVingiSana wrote:


BTW, Mikosz said the KLM-KQ JV is good for KQ. They want to add AF to the mix.

obiero
#19 Posted : Monday, November 20, 2017 8:56:26 PM
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Chaka wrote:
Thought AF and KL merged?
http://www.airfranceklm.com/en

VituVingiSana wrote:


BTW, Mikosz said the KLM-KQ JV is good for KQ. They want to add AF to the mix.


Same company, different brands.. Think of KQ/Jambojet

KQ ABP 4.26
maka
#20 Posted : Tuesday, November 21, 2017 6:15:27 AM
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obiero wrote:
Chaka wrote:
Thought AF and KL merged?
http://www.airfranceklm.com/en

VituVingiSana wrote:


BTW, Mikosz said the KLM-KQ JV is good for KQ. They want to add AF to the mix.


Same company, different brands.. Think of KQ/Jambojet


To be honest this guy has super brains...
possunt quia posse videntur
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