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COOP Bank Q3 2017 down by 10%
Ericsson
#1 Posted : Thursday, November 09, 2017 11:03:48 AM
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Profit before tax also fell to Sh 13.7 Billion from Sh 15.2 Billion recorded in Q3 2016.

Profit after tax dropping by 9.5 percent to Sh 9.54 Billion compared to Sh 10.54 Billion reported in the same period in 2016.

Total Interest income declined by 7.7 percent from Sh 32.3 Billion to Sh 29.9 Billion as cost to income ration went up from 52.1 percent in Q3 last year to 47.6 percent in Q3 2017.

Net loans and advances over the period went up by 14.2 percent to Sh 32.4 Billion to Sh 259.4 Billion from Sh 227 Billion last year.

Customers deposits over the period also grew by a decent margin to Sh 289 Billion from Sh 257.8 Billion in the same period last year.
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winmak
#2 Posted : Thursday, November 09, 2017 11:24:08 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Profit before tax also fell to Sh 13.7 Billion from Sh 15.2 Billion recorded in Q3 2016.

Profit after tax dropping by 9.5 percent to Sh 9.54 Billion compared to Sh 10.54 Billion reported in the same period in 2016.

Total Interest income declined by 7.7 percent from Sh 32.3 Billion to Sh 29.9 Billion as cost to income ration went up from 52.1 percent in Q3 last year to 47.6 percent in Q3 2017.

Net loans and advances over the period went up by 14.2 percent to Sh 32.4 Billion to Sh 259.4 Billion from Sh 227 Billion last year.

Customers deposits over the period also grew by a decent margin to Sh 289 Billion from Sh 257.8 Billion in the same period last year.


Likely this reflects capital migration from tier 3/4 to the tier 1. This may change if/when rate caps are lifted and the smaller banks become 'safer'
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Ericsson
#3 Posted : Thursday, November 09, 2017 1:12:39 PM
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Coop bank loan book size has overtaken overtake equity bank's
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MadDoc
#4 Posted : Thursday, November 09, 2017 1:37:42 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Coop bank loan book size has overtaken overtake equity bank's

However, on PBT 13 vs 20B.
Ericsson
#5 Posted : Thursday, November 09, 2017 1:46:39 PM
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Co-operative Bank of South Sudan that has a partnership with Government of South Sudan (Co-op Bank 51 percent and GOSS 49 percent) made a profit of Sh30 Million in the period.
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jawgey
#6 Posted : Thursday, November 09, 2017 3:40:26 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Co-operative Bank of South Sudan that has a partnership with Government of South Sudan (Co-op Bank 51 percent and GOSS 49 percent) made a profit of Sh30 Million in the period.


Not bad considering the circumstances. Better days lie ahead.
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obiero
#7 Posted : Thursday, November 09, 2017 4:15:25 PM
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MadDoc wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Coop bank loan book size has overtaken overtake equity bank's

However, on PBT 13 vs 20B.

Soon, EQTY will be toppled if they don't react more aggressively to the environment.. KCB though appears untouchable.. It's recent decisions have appeared inspired by the gods

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Angelica _ann
#8 Posted : Thursday, November 09, 2017 5:14:48 PM
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obiero wrote:
MadDoc wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Coop bank loan book size has overtaken overtake equity bank's

However, on PBT 13 vs 20B.

Soon, EQTY will be toppled if they don't react more aggressively to the environment.. KCB though appears untouchable.. It's recent decisions have appeared inspired by the gods


Equity is regrouping, let the political dust settle you will see serious moves early next year. Watch this space!!!
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Ericsson
#9 Posted : Thursday, November 09, 2017 5:33:17 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
MadDoc wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Coop bank loan book size has overtaken overtake equity bank's

However, on PBT 13 vs 20B.

Soon, EQTY will be toppled if they don't react more aggressively to the environment.. KCB though appears untouchable.. It's recent decisions have appeared inspired by the gods


Equity is regrouping, let the political dust settle you will see serious moves early next year. Watch this space!!!


We'll wait to see !!1!!
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watesh
#10 Posted : Thursday, November 09, 2017 7:05:36 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
MadDoc wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Coop bank loan book size has overtaken overtake equity bank's

However, on PBT 13 vs 20B.

Soon, EQTY will be toppled if they don't react more aggressively to the environment.. KCB though appears untouchable.. It's recent decisions have appeared inspired by the gods


Equity is regrouping, let the political dust settle you will see serious moves early next year. Watch this space!!!

Equity reduced its loan book to lend to the govt at a bigger margin.
They saw it was more profitable to do so.
VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Friday, November 10, 2017 9:29:21 AM
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watesh wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
MadDoc wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Coop bank loan book size has overtaken overtake equity bank's

However, on PBT 13 vs 20B.

Soon, EQTY will be toppled if they don't react more aggressively to the environment.. KCB though appears untouchable.. It's recent decisions have appeared inspired by the gods


Equity is regrouping, let the political dust settle you will see serious moves early next year. Watch this space!!!

Equity reduced its loan book to lend to the govt at a bigger margin.
They saw it was more profitable to do so.

Why lend to Wanjiku (at 14%) with all the drama [courts, IFRS9] if Wanjiku defaults when GoK is paying default-free 12%?
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Ebenyo
#12 Posted : Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:25:20 AM
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jawgey wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Co-operative Bank of South Sudan that has a partnership with Government of South Sudan (Co-op Bank 51 percent and GOSS 49 percent) made a profit of Sh30 Million in the period.


Not bad considering the circumstances. Better days lie ahead.



it was a very good move to partner with SS govt.Other kenyan banks which went their solo,have really suffered.
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Ericsson
#13 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:41:35 AM
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http://www.businessdaily...5936-awf8cvz/index.html

Billionaire investor Baloobhai Patel has more than quadrupled his stake in Co-op Bank to Sh403 million, becoming the second-largest individual investor in the Nairobi Securities Exchange-listed firm.
Co-op Bank said in regulatory filings that Mr Patel raised his ownership from 5.8 million shares in February to 25.2 million in September, boosting his stake in the lender from 0.12 per cent to 0.43 per cent.
The value of his shareholding jumped from Sh93.8 million to Sh403 million over the same period based on the bank’s share price of Sh16 on Monday.
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obiero
#14 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 1:25:16 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Billionaire-Baloobhai-raises-Co-op-Bank-stake/539546-4225936-awf8cvz/index.html

Billionaire investor Baloobhai Patel has more than quadrupled his stake in Co-op Bank to Sh403 million, becoming the second-largest individual investor in the Nairobi Securities Exchange-listed firm.
Co-op Bank said in regulatory filings that Mr Patel raised his ownership from 5.8 million shares in February to 25.2 million in September, boosting his stake in the lender from 0.12 per cent to 0.43 per cent.
The value of his shareholding jumped from Sh93.8 million to Sh403 million over the same period based on the bank’s share price of Sh16 on Monday.

A bold move by a top KQ investor

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#15 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 3:32:03 PM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Billionaire-Baloobhai-raises-Co-op-Bank-stake/539546-4225936-awf8cvz/index.html

Billionaire investor Baloobhai Patel has more than quadrupled his stake in Co-op Bank to Sh403 million, becoming the second-largest individual investor in the Nairobi Securities Exchange-listed firm.
Co-op Bank said in regulatory filings that Mr Patel raised his ownership from 5.8 million shares in February to 25.2 million in September, boosting his stake in the lender from 0.12 per cent to 0.43 per cent.
The value of his shareholding jumped from Sh93.8 million to Sh403 million over the same period based on the bank’s share price of Sh16 on Monday.

A bold move by a top KQ investor
Who probably regrets buying KQ instead of Co-op in 2012 Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#16 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:12:27 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Billionaire-Baloobhai-raises-Co-op-Bank-stake/539546-4225936-awf8cvz/index.html

Billionaire investor Baloobhai Patel has more than quadrupled his stake in Co-op Bank to Sh403 million, becoming the second-largest individual investor in the Nairobi Securities Exchange-listed firm.
Co-op Bank said in regulatory filings that Mr Patel raised his ownership from 5.8 million shares in February to 25.2 million in September, boosting his stake in the lender from 0.12 per cent to 0.43 per cent.
The value of his shareholding jumped from Sh93.8 million to Sh403 million over the same period based on the bank’s share price of Sh16 on Monday.

A bold move by a top KQ investor
Who probably regrets buying KQ instead of Co-op in 2012 Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Remember I was once in COOP.. A solid bank with good prospects. But wait for the Open Offer ratio before you laugh too hard at KQ investors. The joke may be on you

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#17 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:20:07 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Billionaire-Baloobhai-raises-Co-op-Bank-stake/539546-4225936-awf8cvz/index.html

Billionaire investor Baloobhai Patel has more than quadrupled his stake in Co-op Bank to Sh403 million, becoming the second-largest individual investor in the Nairobi Securities Exchange-listed firm.
Co-op Bank said in regulatory filings that Mr Patel raised his ownership from 5.8 million shares in February to 25.2 million in September, boosting his stake in the lender from 0.12 per cent to 0.43 per cent.
The value of his shareholding jumped from Sh93.8 million to Sh403 million over the same period based on the bank’s share price of Sh16 on Monday.

A bold move by a top KQ investor
Who probably regrets buying KQ instead of Co-op in 2012 Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Remember I was once in COOP.. A solid bank with good prospects. But wait for the Open Offer ratio before you laugh too hard at KQ investors. The joke may be on you
I feel sorry for KQ shareholders who bought shares in the Rights Issue coz they were lied to... 14/- to the current price (divided by 4) without any dividends. Good luck to those who still believe in KQ.

I hope KQ will thrive under Mikosz and Joseph but the rapacious staff are waiting to suck KQ dry. In the meantime, the likes of Naikuni and Mbugua are laughing at the KQ shareholders.

On Coop, I want it to do well but I prefer the mid-tier banks which seem to be more innovative and nimble. I am quite impressed with how DTB and its shares have performed.

Can Coop be as nimble?
Where/how will Coop grow?

I hope Kenya's economy starts firing on all cylinders after the brutal 2017 election season. All banks should benefit from a better economy.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#18 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:24:36 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Billionaire-Baloobhai-raises-Co-op-Bank-stake/539546-4225936-awf8cvz/index.html

Billionaire investor Baloobhai Patel has more than quadrupled his stake in Co-op Bank to Sh403 million, becoming the second-largest individual investor in the Nairobi Securities Exchange-listed firm.
Co-op Bank said in regulatory filings that Mr Patel raised his ownership from 5.8 million shares in February to 25.2 million in September, boosting his stake in the lender from 0.12 per cent to 0.43 per cent.
The value of his shareholding jumped from Sh93.8 million to Sh403 million over the same period based on the bank’s share price of Sh16 on Monday.

A bold move by a top KQ investor
Who probably regrets buying KQ instead of Co-op in 2012 Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Remember I was once in COOP.. A solid bank with good prospects. But wait for the Open Offer ratio before you laugh too hard at KQ investors. The joke may be on you
I feel sorry for KQ shareholders who bought shares in the Rights Issue coz they were lied to... 14/- to the current price (divided by 4) without any dividends. Good luck to those who still believe in KQ.

I hope KQ will thrive under Mikosz and Joseph but the rapacious staff are waiting to suck KQ dry. In the meantime, the likes of Naikuni and Mbugua are laughing at the KQ shareholders.

On Coop, I want it to do well but I prefer the mid-tier banks which seem to be more innovative and nimble. I am quite impressed with how DTB and its shares have performed.

Can Coop be as nimble?
Where/how will Coop grow?

I hope Kenya's economy starts firing on all cylinders after the brutal 2017 election season. All banks should benefit from a better economy.

That KQ rights issue was a con job

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#19 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:43:33 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Billionaire-Baloobhai-raises-Co-op-Bank-stake/539546-4225936-awf8cvz/index.html

Billionaire investor Baloobhai Patel has more than quadrupled his stake in Co-op Bank to Sh403 million, becoming the second-largest individual investor in the Nairobi Securities Exchange-listed firm.
Co-op Bank said in regulatory filings that Mr Patel raised his ownership from 5.8 million shares in February to 25.2 million in September, boosting his stake in the lender from 0.12 per cent to 0.43 per cent.
The value of his shareholding jumped from Sh93.8 million to Sh403 million over the same period based on the bank’s share price of Sh16 on Monday.

A bold move by a top KQ investor
Who probably regrets buying KQ instead of Co-op in 2012 Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Remember I was once in COOP.. A solid bank with good prospects. But wait for the Open Offer ratio before you laugh too hard at KQ investors. The joke may be on you
I feel sorry for KQ shareholders who bought shares in the Rights Issue coz they were lied to... 14/- to the current price (divided by 4) without any dividends. Good luck to those who still believe in KQ.

I hope KQ will thrive under Mikosz and Joseph but the rapacious staff are waiting to suck KQ dry. In the meantime, the likes of Naikuni and Mbugua are laughing at the KQ shareholders.

On Coop, I want it to do well but I prefer the mid-tier banks which seem to be more innovative and nimble. I am quite impressed with how DTB and its shares have performed.

Can Coop be as nimble?
Where/how will Coop grow?

DTB is more widespread than Coop regionally.DTB is in Uganda,Burundi,Tanzania,Kenya.
Coop is only in Kenya and South Sudan


I hope Kenya's economy starts firing on all cylinders after the brutal 2017 election season. All banks should benefit from a better economy.

Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#20 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 5:32:35 PM
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@Ericsson - And SS is nothing to talk about. There may be some profits from SS but until the war is truly over, it's going to be hard to grow in SS.

DTB is in all EAC countries except Rwanda [which surprises me]...

Could Coop's model of JVs with coop movements or govts be a limiting factor as it tries to expand into EAC?
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