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WE THE PEOPLE
essyk
#1 Posted : Monday, October 23, 2017 7:44:12 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 11/15/2011
Posts: 4,518
Who are you?
Who sent you?
What do you want?

We are TIRED!!
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
Shak
#2 Posted : Monday, October 23, 2017 8:03:25 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/22/2009
Posts: 2,449
Location: Africa
Very very tired
masukuma
#3 Posted : Monday, October 23, 2017 8:19:11 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
I coincidentally wrote this yesterday
Quote:

Three types of "Kenyans" and how they are addressed/refered to tells you a lot about the person making the statement.
1) The ones that do something that shocks or disgusts you. You address them using statements like the exclamations..."KENYANS!!...." Usually ending with you shaking your head in disbelief. These are usually in small numbers.
2) The ones you don't agree with. For them you prescribe a condescending cure. The statement usually goes something like this. "Kenyans should... [insert prescription here]". The prescription is usually targeted at others and rarely to self. KENYANS SHOULD STOP BEING TRIBALISTIC. KENYANS SHOULD RESPECT OTHERS. This is usually about one half of the country.
3) The ones you associate yourself with. These are found in statements of authority for example. KENYANS ARE TIRED! or KENYANS ARE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THIS. This is usually about the other half of the country.


I guess you can replace "Kenyans" with "People" and it still makes sense
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
tycho
#4 Posted : Monday, October 23, 2017 8:41:54 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
Waiting for the people to become we. I hope 'we'll' not be tired!
washiku
#5 Posted : Monday, October 23, 2017 8:44:16 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 5/9/2007
Posts: 13,095
WE-THE-PEOPLE PRESS STATEMENT ON THE POLITICAL SITUATION IN KENYA

We-the-People is a group of trade unions, civil society organisations, the academia, the media and wananchi at large who have come together over the past week to address the political crisis that has gripped the country. We are united by the commitment to non-violence, justice, truth and free, fair, credible and peaceful elections.

Our consultations have convinced us that it is not possible to hold a free, fair and credible election on October 26, 2017 as scheduled. We-the-People therefore demand that the election scheduled for October 26 be called off.

Kenya is in a grave and deepening crisis, with ethnic militias mobilising and vernacular radio stations calling on people to prepare for war. Communities are arming themselves; politicians are making incendiary speeches and threatening violence. Militia are being openly mobilised – even Cabinet Secretary for Interior, Fred Matiangi, is on record mobilising the ‘chinkororo’ in Kisii County. We are on the brink of bloodshed and hurtling towards catastrophe.

We are greatly alarmed at the sight of public servants and members of the Cabinet wearing military fatigues at political rallies. This visual intimidation and show of might will not bring good tidings to the peoples of Kenya.


We are also deeply disappointed at the broadcast of new advertisements from State House purportedly representing the people of Kenya and imploring the people to vote even when it is evident that a large chunk of the country will not take part in the forthcoming election. The current political and security environment in the country does not support elections under the constitutional principle of universal suffrage.


Security officers deployed to police demonstrations demanding reforms ahead of fresh presidential election have caused scores of deaths and injuries, with evidence indicating that the use of lethal force was neither proportional to the seriousness of the offence nor strictly unavoidable to protect life. We are also deeply concerned by attacks on electoral officials by opposition supporters in parts of the country. We fear for the safety and lives of election staff who will manage the polling stations, and voters who may turn up, should the election go ahead. The exercise will neither confirm credibility nor confer any legitimacy on the winner.

We-the-People demand that a national dialogue be convened to address the political situation in Kenya. As we prepare for national dialogue, it is urgent that:

Mr Wafula Chebukati, as the National Returning Officer for the presidential election, urgently seek the guidance of the Supreme Court in light of the present circumstances. It is a fact that the IEBC cannot deliver a free, fair and credible election on October 26, 2017.

That the political leadership commit to the national dialogue, and de-escalate the rising tensions in the country. In order to achieve this, the President must refrain from assenting to and gazetting the Election laws Amendment Bill, 2017, while all political actors must commit not to mobilise their supporters for violence.

Security forces must uphold the constitutional right to freedom of assembly and cease acts of brutality. The shocking number of deaths and injuries of protestors has been condemned nationally and internationally, and must cease immediately. We demand swift intervention from Independent Policing Oversight Authority, the Directorate of Public Prosecutions and other related State agencies for accountability and justice for these actions.

The DPP release a status report on the IEBC officials currently being investigated for improprieties committed during the August 8. 2017 General Election.

Putting off the October 26 election will not result in a constitutional crisis. We-the-People remind those clutching at this legal fig leaf that the judiciary has previously helped the country to identify election dates in 2012 under the current Constitution and can do so again.

The electoral commission has power to postpone polling in the e
vent that the environment is hostile to and will likely frustrate free, fair and credible elections. Further, the guidance of the Supreme Court on conducting a fresh election is required after one of the candidates announced his withdrawal from the race on the basis of a 2013 decision. The court had previously observed that a candidate abandoning a fresh presidential race should trigger an entirely fresh election, including the nomination of candidates. The High Court’s recent decision that the direction was obiter dicta and therefore not binding contradicts the advice of the Supreme Court that its obiter and advisory opinions are binding on other courts. The printing of ballot papers and declaration of a voting day cannot override the country’s needs for accountability, truth and justice.

We-the-People call for the involvement of multiple stakeholders to national dialogue. It is only this form of dialogue, embracing a multi-stakeholder approach that can de-escalate the rising tensions and restore the country on a roadmap to peace, truth and justice at this important juncture by focusing on the following issues:

Deep electoral reforms that bring an end to bungled and illegal and manipulated elections once and for all. Never again must we as Kenyans be placed in this situations where elections become a matter of life and death and disrupt country’s life.

Accountability for the violence in the aftermath of the August 8, 2017 General Election

Accountability for crimes and improprieties committed in the August 8, 2017 General Election by IEBC and other officials.

Wide-ranging consultations this week – incorporating the entire spectrum of views -- have convinced us that it is impossible to deliver free, fair and credible elections on October 26, 2017. We are alarmed at the drums of war and unrest that cloud the national atmosphere and which may result in political, social and economic upheaval and long term instability that could drive this country to the abyss of civil strife. Proceeding with the election as planned will deepen the political crisis and push Kenya into another round of devastating violence. This must not happen at any cost.


We-the-People conclude that the only way to stave off imminent large-scale violence is to stop the brinkmanship and call off the election to give our country time to properly handle and resolve the crisis. This includes receiving further direction from the courts.



Done in Nairobi AND dated 23rd of October, 2017.

Kenya Medical Practitioners Pharmacists and Dentists Union (KMPDU)

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Kenya Union Post Primary Education Teachers (KUPPET)

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Baratang
#6 Posted : Monday, October 23, 2017 9:04:46 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 10/6/2009
Posts: 587
washiku wrote:
WE-THE-PEOPLE PRESS STATEMENT ON THE POLITICAL SITUATION IN KENYA

We-the-People is a group of trade unions, civil society organisations, the academia, the media and wananchi at large who have come together over the past week to address the political crisis that has gripped the country. We are united by the commitment to non-violence, justice, truth and free, fair, credible and peaceful elections.

Our consultations have convinced us that it is not possible to hold a free, fair and credible election on October 26, 2017 as scheduled. We-the-People therefore demand that the election scheduled for October 26 be called off.

Kenya is in a grave and deepening crisis, with ethnic militias mobilising and vernacular radio stations calling on people to prepare for war. Communities are arming themselves; politicians are making incendiary speeches and threatening violence. Militia are being openly mobilised – even Cabinet Secretary for Interior, Fred Matiangi, is on record mobilising the ‘chinkororo’ in Kisii County. We are on the brink of bloodshed and hurtling towards catastrophe.

We are greatly alarmed at the sight of public servants and members of the Cabinet wearing military fatigues at political rallies. This visual intimidation and show of might will not bring good tidings to the peoples of Kenya.


We are also deeply disappointed at the broadcast of new advertisements from State House purportedly representing the people of Kenya and imploring the people to vote even when it is evident that a large chunk of the country will not take part in the forthcoming election. The current political and security environment in the country does not support elections under the constitutional principle of universal suffrage.


Security officers deployed to police demonstrations demanding reforms ahead of fresh presidential election have caused scores of deaths and injuries, with evidence indicating that the use of lethal force was neither proportional to the seriousness of the offence nor strictly unavoidable to protect life. We are also deeply concerned by attacks on electoral officials by opposition supporters in parts of the country. We fear for the safety and lives of election staff who will manage the polling stations, and voters who may turn up, should the election go ahead. The exercise will neither confirm credibility nor confer any legitimacy on the winner.

We-the-People demand that a national dialogue be convened to address the political situation in Kenya. As we prepare for national dialogue, it is urgent that:

Mr Wafula Chebukati, as the National Returning Officer for the presidential election, urgently seek the guidance of the Supreme Court in light of the present circumstances. It is a fact that the IEBC cannot deliver a free, fair and credible election on October 26, 2017.

That the political leadership commit to the national dialogue, and de-escalate the rising tensions in the country. In order to achieve this, the President must refrain from assenting to and gazetting the Election laws Amendment Bill, 2017, while all political actors must commit not to mobilise their supporters for violence.

Security forces must uphold the constitutional right to freedom of assembly and cease acts of brutality. The shocking number of deaths and injuries of protestors has been condemned nationally and internationally, and must cease immediately. We demand swift intervention from Independent Policing Oversight Authority, the Directorate of Public Prosecutions and other related State agencies for accountability and justice for these actions.

The DPP release a status report on the IEBC officials currently being investigated for improprieties committed during the August 8. 2017 General Election.

Putting off the October 26 election will not result in a constitutional crisis. We-the-People remind those clutching at this legal fig leaf that the judiciary has previously helped the country to identify election dates in 2012 under the current Constitution and can do so again.

The electoral commission has power to postpone polling in the e
vent that the environment is hostile to and will likely frustrate free, fair and credible elections. Further, the guidance of the Supreme Court on conducting a fresh election is required after one of the candidates announced his withdrawal from the race on the basis of a 2013 decision. The court had previously observed that a candidate abandoning a fresh presidential race should trigger an entirely fresh election, including the nomination of candidates. The High Court’s recent decision that the direction was obiter dicta and therefore not binding contradicts the advice of the Supreme Court that its obiter and advisory opinions are binding on other courts. The printing of ballot papers and declaration of a voting day cannot override the country’s needs for accountability, truth and justice.

We-the-People call for the involvement of multiple stakeholders to national dialogue. It is only this form of dialogue, embracing a multi-stakeholder approach that can de-escalate the rising tensions and restore the country on a roadmap to peace, truth and justice at this important juncture by focusing on the following issues:

Deep electoral reforms that bring an end to bungled and illegal and manipulated elections once and for all. Never again must we as Kenyans be placed in this situations where elections become a matter of life and death and disrupt country’s life.

Accountability for the violence in the aftermath of the August 8, 2017 General Election

Accountability for crimes and improprieties committed in the August 8, 2017 General Election by IEBC and other officials.

Wide-ranging consultations this week – incorporating the entire spectrum of views -- have convinced us that it is impossible to deliver free, fair and credible elections on October 26, 2017. We are alarmed at the drums of war and unrest that cloud the national atmosphere and which may result in political, social and economic upheaval and long term instability that could drive this country to the abyss of civil strife. Proceeding with the election as planned will deepen the political crisis and push Kenya into another round of devastating violence. This must not happen at any cost.


We-the-People conclude that the only way to stave off imminent large-scale violence is to stop the brinkmanship and call off the election to give our country time to properly handle and resolve the crisis. This includes receiving further direction from the courts.



Done in Nairobi AND dated 23rd of October, 2017.

Kenya Medical Practitioners Pharmacists and Dentists Union (KMPDU)

NAME SIGNATURE

………………………………………………………………………….. ………………………………………………


Kenya Union Post Primary Education Teachers (KUPPET)

NAME SIGNATURE

………………………………………………………………………….. ………………………………………………

Central Organization of Trade Unions (COTU-K)

NAME SIGNATURE

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Kura Yangu Sauti Yangu (KYSY)

NAME SIGNATURE

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Universities Academic Staff Union (UASU)

NAME SIGNATURE

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Just check closely at the people heading those listed institutions. Makes these statements sickening.

Could they take back their godamned statement and stick it on their asses.

We are tired...very very tired.
newfarer
#7 Posted : Monday, October 23, 2017 9:25:30 PM
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Joined: 3/19/2010
Posts: 3,505
Location: Uganda
Uhuru rao should agree to a nusu mkate gava.the 1/3 registered voters who will boycott the elections needs to be taken onboard. the environment is highly poisonous.if things go south who will say they never saw it coming?

if IEBC has said they can't guarantee free fair and verifiable elections what's the need of proceeding?
punda amecheka
murchr
#8 Posted : Monday, October 23, 2017 10:18:12 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
newfarer wrote:
Uhuru rao should agree to a nusu mkate gava.the 1/3 registered voters who will boycott the elections needs to be taken onboard. the environment is highly poisonous.if things go south who will say they never saw it coming?

if IEBC has said they can't guarantee free fair and verifiable elections what's the need of proceeding?



In 1996, the voter turnout in the US was 53% the US did not diminish. The same will apply to Kenya, its a right and privilege to vote but its not a mandate. No accommodations or bending of the law will be made, Uhuru is not Kibaki.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Amores
#9 Posted : Monday, October 23, 2017 10:19:45 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 11/25/2011
Posts: 2,103
Location: Nrb
newfarer wrote:
Uhuru rao should agree to a nusu mkate gava.the 1/3 registered voters who will boycott the elections needs to be taken onboard. the environment is highly poisonous.if things go south who will say they never saw it coming?

if IEBC has said they can't guarantee free fair and verifiable elections what's the need of proceeding?

Umerudi hapa na maneno ya nusu.....? Why should there be nusu? One man, one vote, loser aende home. Just because one old man refuses to accept defeat does not mean power should be shared. You NASA people mwasumbua bana
I am happy
Liv
#10 Posted : Monday, October 23, 2017 10:46:53 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 11/14/2006
Posts: 1,311
newfarer wrote:
Uhuru rao should agree to a nusu mkate gava.the 1/3 registered voters who will boycott the elections needs to be taken onboard. the environment is highly poisonous.if things go south who will say they never saw it coming?

if IEBC has said they can't guarantee free fair and verifiable elections what's the need of proceeding?


What do you mean by "things going south"? What exactly do you have in mind?
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