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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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limanika wrote:Gathige wrote:limanika wrote:Actually since naswa have said there will be no elections in nyanza on 26th, if I was iebc I would grant them this wish. Then ask govt to allow them demonstrate all day as they have requested. Iebc has power to postpone elections in regions where it is not conducive to hold polls It's good to keep polling stations open and whoever wants to vote for Duda, Ekuru etc can vote. I guess their only problem is with UMK. I think they have problem voting on umk birthday  . It is not too much to ask to postpone..in any case, the leaders in these regions have said categorically there will be no election in their region on that day. Why insist yo hold it on that same day when you can postpone Postpone to when? Baba is not ready for elections anytime soon. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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kaka2za wrote:limanika wrote:Gathige wrote:limanika wrote:Actually since naswa have said there will be no elections in nyanza on 26th, if I was iebc I would grant them this wish. Then ask govt to allow them demonstrate all day as they have requested. Iebc has power to postpone elections in regions where it is not conducive to hold polls It's good to keep polling stations open and whoever wants to vote for Duda, Ekuru etc can vote. I guess their only problem is with UMK. I think they have problem voting on umk birthday . It is not too much to ask to postpone..in any case, the leaders in these regions have said categorically there will be no election in their region on that day. Why insist yo hold it on that same day when you can postpone Postpone to when? Baba is not ready for elections anytime soon. Postpone by few days purely for security reasons...By the way he is not interested in elections any time soon...he has been quoted in sections of media saying (indirectly) the only thing that can solve the 2017 election crisis (considering what he is planning to do after 26th...which he hasn't fully disclosed)..is 'political solution'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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limanika wrote:Actually since naswa have said there will be no elections in nyanza on 26th, if I was iebc I would grant them this wish. Then ask govt to allow them demonstrate all day as they have requested. Iebc has power to postpone elections in regions where it is not conducive to hold polls That would not be good because it could also mean the results announcement will be delayed. We need to get over with these elections quickly.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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What were the irreducible minimums again?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/22/2009 Posts: 2,449 Location: Africa
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Lolest! wrote:What were the irreducible minimums again? Open server, no ot morpho, no al ghurair, replace all returning and presiding officers....can't remember the rest
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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Shak wrote:Lolest! wrote:What were the irreducible minimums again? Open server, no ot morpho, no al ghurair, replace all returning and presiding officers....can't remember the rest Haha he wasn't interested in elections. You meet the conditions he says earlier ones are overtaken by events...thats why i find it ridiculous for people to insist that he meets umk for 'talks'. You cannot talk with someone keen to sabotage you while keeping all cards under the table, yet he expects you to keep all your cards above the table
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/22/2009 Posts: 2,449 Location: Africa
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Demos to resume on Tuesday, says Raila
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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limanika wrote:Shak wrote:Lolest! wrote:What were the irreducible minimums again? Open server, no ot morpho, no al ghurair, replace all returning and presiding officers....can't remember the rest Haha he wasn't interested in elections. You meet the conditions he says earlier ones are overtaken by events...thats why i find it ridiculous for people to insist that he meets umk for 'talks'. You cannot talk with someone keen to sabotage you while keeping all cards under the table, yet he expects you to keep all your cards above the table Just read an article in Sunday Nation. Ati some guys are saying a political deal be made by Uhuru and Raila and then something about them going to supreme court after that I doubt that will work seeing Aukot wants this election as much as Uhuru does. He wants no 2 bragging rights hence any attempt to postpone would most def mean he moves to court...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Shak wrote:Lolest! wrote:What were the irreducible minimums again? Open server, no ot morpho, no al ghurair, replace all returning and presiding officers....can't remember the rest No Safaricom, No commissioners, no John Kerry "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:What were the irreducible minimums again? I decided to revisit these irreducibles and I realized that they were not systems aware, in that a little delay in execution of any of them would not result in the effects that one would infer to be intended. In other words, the irreducables were quick fixes that were ill conceived and that were probably attempts to cover up ineptitude.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/8/2010 Posts: 1,732
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New word in town, the ballots we saw being delivered from Dubai are "DECOYS" actual ballots were printed in river road and marked and have also been counted already. Baba never amazes me anymore Life is an endless adventure
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 8/23/2015 Posts: 64 Location: nairobi
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Does baba ever hear himself speaking? ballots printed already? Even his most ardent followers should by now know that he is start raving mad/bananas/wazimu/ametupa mbao.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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Shak wrote:Demos to resume on Tuesday, says Raila Hadn't he suspended demos only last week? Or he realized morale is down and he needs a way to 'rejuvenate' his base ahead of 'major announcement' on wed w.r.t voting day?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Turnout will finish babu "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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murchr wrote:Turnout will finish babu Actually, turnout will be babu's lifeline Fearing chaos, or because of actual chaos, many would be voters wont come out to vote in Nasa dominated areas and battleground counties Should Uhuru end up getting something like 6.9 M votes due to violence and Raila absence apathy, Raila will be all over asking: 'kura milioni nane walitoa wapi?'
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:Turnout will finish babu Actually, turnout will be babu's lifeline Fearing chaos, or because of actual chaos, many would be voters wont come out to vote in Nasa dominated areas and battleground counties Should Uhuru end up getting something like 6.9 M votes due to violence and Raila absence apathy, Raila will be all over asking: 'kura milioni nane walitoa wapi?' Yet Uhuru is fighting for at least 55%. If he hits that...The only way of UK removing the noise is hitting 10m. Can he?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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washiku wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:Turnout will finish babu Actually, turnout will be babu's lifeline Fearing chaos, or because of actual chaos, many would be voters wont come out to vote in Nasa dominated areas and battleground counties Should Uhuru end up getting something like 6.9 M votes due to violence and Raila absence apathy, Raila will be all over asking: 'kura milioni nane walitoa wapi?' Yet Uhuru is fighting for at least 55%. If he hits that...The only way of UK removing the noise is hitting 10m. Can he? I doubt 10M is achievable. I fear for voters especially in areas that are 50-50 like Nairobi Nasa volunteer goons or even paid up ones could be demanding to see your little finger  When it gets to that point, however much you believe in democracy and right to vote etc, leave the contest to Raila and Uhuru. You'll get another chance to vote Remember there are demos on polling day. How will CBD voters go to their stations? How if after they get there will they vote when the goons try attack them and police lob teargas canisters? How many Kenyans are ready for such stress just for 1 vote? They'll give up saying the winner is known anyway... Then Raila on the ballot excites mount kenya to vote...vote against him. With him out of the way, some may not bother to vote Finally the other 5 elections are done and dusted. The guys who were fighting hard to see to see say Buzeki as governor now have no major factor to make them wake up early
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/2/2010 Posts: 845
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mount kenya and the kalenjin rift valley will equal or exceed the 8/8 turnout. it is the swing counties that will break this election. many people in places like maasailand, kisii, taita and northern kenya go to the ballot because of the local governor and mp. now there is no mtu wetu on the ballot so they wont be deeply invested in either uhuru or raila. lukewarm uhuru supporters will stay at home. alafu kuna watu nairobi wataogopa mawe. All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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An election without Baba in the ballot is boring. The fear he instills in some quarters brings out large numbers to vote against him, not necessarily to vote in favour of their candidates. I wonder what his grounds for petition this time round will be now that he has declared he will not be participating, despite his name being on the ballot. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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An election without Baba in the ballot is boring. The fear he instills in some quarters brings out large numbers to vote against him, not necessarily to vote in favour of their candidates. I wonder what his grounds for petition this time round will be now that he has declared he will not be participating, despite his name being on the ballot. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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