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Misogyny in Wazua
Shak
#1 Posted : Saturday, October 21, 2017 3:53:28 PM
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I just have to say something about this especially after the thread on Lupita. There's too much of it in this forum and unfortunately no one is speaking up about it. From objectification to downright contemptuous attitudes towards women. It's high time those perpetrating these attitudes put a stop to it.
muganda
#2 Posted : Saturday, October 21, 2017 4:06:32 PM
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mi·sog·y·ny
/məˈsäjənē/

noun
dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.
"she felt she was struggling against thinly disguised misogyny"

Dame Shirley wrote:

You can tell an ambitious woman from the shape of her head. It's flat on top from being patted down patronisingly.

Dahatre
#3 Posted : Saturday, October 21, 2017 6:37:25 PM
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Shak wrote:
I just have to say something about this especially after the thread on Lupita. There's too much of it in this forum and unfortunately no one is speaking up about it. From objectification to downright contemptuous attitudes towards women. It's high time those perpetrating these attitudes put a stop to it.

Misogyny is a global problem. It's just a matter of degree. Forums like wazua have fewer women so it is rarely discussed and sometimes it rears it's ugly head and goes unquestioned. Misogyny is discussed more in forums with more women, but it does not mean it is practiced to lesser degree in such forums. Infant women who attempt to question it sometimes get harassed quite a bit online. At other times women just keep quiet because it's too tiring to deal with misogyny.
mpobiz
#4 Posted : Saturday, October 21, 2017 7:38:45 PM
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The author of this thread is a demagogue
Who does he/she think we are to insult us?
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
Shak
#5 Posted : Saturday, October 21, 2017 8:25:44 PM
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mpobiz wrote:
The author of this thread is a demagogue
Who does he/she think we are to insult us?

I've gone through my post and nowhere have I insulted anyone
mkenyan
#6 Posted: : Saturday, October 21, 2017 9:54:33 PM
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Shak wrote:
I just have to say something about this especially after the thread on Lupita. There's too much of it in this forum and unfortunately no one is speaking up about it. From objectification to downright contemptuous attitudes towards women. It's high time those perpetrating these attitudes put a stop to it.

anyways agree with you that there is misogyny in wazua and added to the tribal posts, i tend to come here less often,

ironically you have a problem with misogyny in wazua but okay with the tribal hatred being perpetuated. saying that because i have seen you contributing in such threads - and not to call it out.
Mike Ock
#7 Posted : Saturday, October 21, 2017 10:27:04 PM
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You want to use that Lupita thread as your example? It's now misogynistic to question an accuser who has holes in their story? I'm guessing the right thing to do would be to believe her word without question? If there's one thing I am getting tired of nowadays, it's hyper progressive people who jump on any trending issue and dogmatically take the extreme left position. Have some sense of discernment to question things and rely on evidence instead of being dogmatic and unwavering.
sitaki.kujulikana
#8 Posted : Sunday, October 22, 2017 12:49:31 PM
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how does one determine the gender on wazua
its2013
#9 Posted : Sunday, October 22, 2017 4:25:09 PM
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Shak has raised a very important issue. The "downright contemptuous attitudes towards women" is one of the things making Wazua a rather unpleasant place to hold level-headed conversations.
Pretty hurts
Shak
#10 Posted : Sunday, October 22, 2017 5:56:18 PM
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its2013 wrote:
Shak has raised a very important issue. The "downright contemptuous attitudes towards women" is one of the things making Wazua a rather unpleasant place to hold level-headed conversations.

So true its2013. Examples abound but it would be time consuming to give all the numerous examples on this forum where we are objectified. Those discussions about 'fish' and 'airports' really drive me up the wall
Dahatre
#11 Posted : Sunday, October 22, 2017 6:50:23 PM
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Wazua some times:

wukan
#12 Posted : Sunday, October 22, 2017 7:57:37 PM
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This looks like a topic for the boy child and girl child office politics. Girl child took over the workplace and boy child became a weak pushover who vents out on forums.

As for objectification I thought women spend a fortune on fashion and make up to keep appearances and fend off other women. Anyway what do i know...let me go back to my PYT
tycho
#13 Posted : Sunday, October 22, 2017 9:10:11 PM
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Does misogyny have a cause? Does it have a history?

I've been tracing histories of different peoples and trying to find patterns and it all goes to the primal family.

Every age must confront the question of the primal family and how each age and people and culture answer questions emerging is very revealing.

Humanity is always building itself and right now we must reconstruct the primal family afresh given what we've learnt about nature, and ourselves.

But it all goes back to the begining; the tree of life, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. But we've grown prejudiced to these realities, I wonder how we can regain an interest in them.
Sansa
#14 Posted : Monday, October 23, 2017 6:17:11 PM
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Mike Ock wrote:
You want to use that Lupita thread as your example? It's now misogynistic to question an accuser who has holes in their story? I'm guessing the right thing to do would be to believe her word without question? If there's one thing I am getting tired of nowadays, it's hyper progressive people who jump on any trending issue and dogmatically take the extreme left position. Have some sense of discernment to question things and rely on evidence instead of being dogmatic and unwavering.


Where are the holes in her story? Please tell us.
its2013
#15 Posted : Tuesday, October 24, 2017 7:58:17 AM
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Shak wrote:
its2013 wrote:
Shak has raised a very important issue. The "downright contemptuous attitudes towards women" is one of the things making Wazua a rather unpleasant place to hold level-headed conversations.

So true its2013. Examples abound but it would be time consuming to give all the numerous examples on this forum where we are objectified. Those discussions about 'fish' and 'airports' really drive me up the wall

It is quite a pity that they make Wazua look more and more like a social media "Idler's Corner". The quality of discussions on even the most important threads has been sliding down a steep slippery slope but... what can we expect from minds seemingly willfully caged in retrogressive attitudes?
Pretty hurts
Vallerrie
#16 Posted : Tuesday, October 24, 2017 5:28:12 PM
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Shak wrote:
I just have to say something about this especially after the thread on Lupita. There's too much of it in this forum and unfortunately no one is speaking up about it. From objectification to downright contemptuous attitudes towards women. It's high time those perpetrating these attitudes put a stop to it.


Couldn't have said it better. Reason why I rarely come on here nowadays.
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