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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
obiero
#8721 Posted : Tuesday, October 17, 2017 12:20:49 PM
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maka wrote:
@ArrestedDev Let me look into that...

Let us keep off Ngunze in this discussion. The turnaround expert who saved KQ

KQ ABP 4.26
Angelica _ann
#8722 Posted : Tuesday, October 17, 2017 12:39:02 PM
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At least this KQ story, however bad it may seem, gives hope to Kenya since it is looking for a solution for one o our once blue chip, unlike the other active threads!!!!!!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
maka
#8723 Posted : Tuesday, October 17, 2017 1:20:22 PM
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VituVingiSana
#8724 Posted : Tuesday, October 17, 2017 4:08:08 PM
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KQ before MJ was full of thieves...

I am so glad I took my losses in 2012 which saved me not only from greater losses but made me re-evaluate my investment strategy.

Go, Warren Buffett, Go!

[Yet, as Kenyans, we don't shame these crooks but celebrate them. Sad]

Everyone but the shareholders made money off KQ
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Angelica _ann
#8725 Posted : Tuesday, October 17, 2017 4:14:46 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ before MJ was full of thieves...

I am so glad I took my losses in 2012 which saved me not only from greater losses but made me re-evaluate my investment strategy.

Go, Warren Buffett, Go!

[Yet, as Kenyans, we don't shame these crooks but celebrate them. Sad]

Everyone but the shareholders made money off KQ


Look at the simple clean up the 2 mzungus are doing, a thief off you go. Previous management allowed for serious impunity to prevail under their watch, must have been beneficiaries.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
VituVingiSana
#8726 Posted : Tuesday, October 17, 2017 4:15:10 PM
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KQ before MJ was full of thieves...

I am so glad I took my losses in 2012 which saved me not only from greater losses but made me re-evaluate my investment strategy.

Go, Warren Buffett, Go!

[Yet, as Kenyans, we don't shame these crooks but celebrate them. Sad]

Everyone but the shareholders made money off KQ
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#8727 Posted : Tuesday, October 17, 2017 6:14:50 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ before MJ was full of thieves...

I am so glad I took my losses in 2012 which saved me not only from greater losses but made me re-evaluate my investment strategy.

Go, Warren Buffett, Go!

[Yet, as Kenyans, we don't shame these crooks but celebrate them. Sad]

Everyone but the shareholders made money off KQ

We all know who headed the listed firm while Mobitelea was an owner. Also go read about Tomblestone of Safaricom.. Who knows about Sebastian character. You guys forget about colonialism . We have black men who can lead multinational corporations. Lets not bash Ngunze for the sake of it http://www.businessdaily...3206682-t9mme/index.html

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#8728 Posted : Tuesday, October 17, 2017 7:10:50 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ before MJ was full of thieves...

I am so glad I took my losses in 2012 which saved me not only from greater losses but made me re-evaluate my investment strategy.

Go, Warren Buffett, Go!

[Yet, as Kenyans, we don't shame these crooks but celebrate them. Sad]

Everyone but the shareholders made money off KQ


Look at the simple clean up the 2 mzungus are doing, a thief off you go. Previous management allowed for serious impunity to prevail under their watch, must have been beneficiaries.

@angel not everyone who's leaving is a thug. @maka has said as much and we all know he's the go to source on matters scandalous at KQ

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#8729 Posted : Tuesday, October 17, 2017 7:15:09 PM
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obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
A dissapointing run has come to an end, KQ-reborn now in play.. The high heavens await this share, noting change of financial year to Dec 2017. Our first net profit in 5 long years, is in near sight..

Profits, EBIT (KSh m) From 2002 to 2016 descending:
547
2,075
5,520
6,960
5,975
6,526
(5,664)
2,671
5,002
2,146
(10,826)
(4,861)
(29,712)
(26,099)
(10,202)



*HF 2017 projection

Results expected to be released on 25.10.2017

Countdown @maka

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obiero
#8730 Posted : Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:42:24 PM
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Believers keep coming forward http://kenyanwallstreet....think-case-buy-kq-shares

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maka
#8731 Posted : Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:53:54 PM
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[quote=obiero]Believers keep coming forward http://kenyanwallstreet....hink-case-buy-kq-shares[/quote]

Looks like it was written by @mwandiwambeu Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#8732 Posted : Tuesday, October 17, 2017 9:17:00 PM
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maka wrote:
[quote=obiero]Believers keep coming forward http://kenyanwallstreet....hink-case-buy-kq-shares[/quote]

Looks like it was written by @mwandiwambeu Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Lol. @muandiwambeu is on hard drugs

KQ ABP 4.26
Ericsson
#8733 Posted : Tuesday, October 17, 2017 11:16:04 PM
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ARM overtakes kq amongst biggest losing counters year to date
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#8734 Posted : Wednesday, October 18, 2017 5:11:35 AM
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@maka
1) Who didn't steal at/from KQ?
2) Who except shareholders didn't make money from KQ?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#8735 Posted : Wednesday, October 18, 2017 6:56:04 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@maka
1) Who didn't steal at/from KQ?
2) Who except shareholders didn't make money from KQ?

@Diaz @Clarke @Yves @Maka never stole a dime from KQ.. There are several upright workers at the Pride of Africa.
The shareholders at KQ are wise and patient. Like the bamboo tree we wait for years patiently accumulating, then BAM! Millions in the bank

KQ ABP 4.26
ArrestedDev
#8736 Posted : Wednesday, October 18, 2017 7:35:07 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@maka
1) Who didn't steal at/from KQ?
2) Who except shareholders didn't make money from KQ?

@Diaz @Clarke @Yves @Maka never stole a dime from KQ.. There are several upright workers at the Pride of Africa.
The shareholders at KQ are wise and patient. Like the bamboo tree we wait for years patiently accumulating, then BAM! Millions in the bank

@ Diaz? Why do you think he resigned? Nailed in the forensic audit report. He was not going to survive the purge.

@Clarke - Messed ticketing big time. No commercial strategy put in place by him. He left the Airline very vulnerable to competition. Tickets being sold by agents and proceeds pocketed and no action from the Commercial Director.

@obiero, can you talk about something else please?
muandiwambeu
#8737 Posted : Wednesday, October 18, 2017 8:50:39 AM
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obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
[quote=obiero]Believers keep coming forward http://kenyanwallstreet....hink-case-buy-kq-shares[/quote]

Looks like it was written by @mwandiwambeu Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Lol. @muandiwambeu is on hard drugs

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Pray kairu just got on heat once again. We might be lucky to milk once more. Where are the owners of the active and energetic zebu bulls at wazua.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
obiero
#8738 Posted : Wednesday, October 18, 2017 12:35:19 PM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@maka
1) Who didn't steal at/from KQ?
2) Who except shareholders didn't make money from KQ?

@Diaz @Clarke @Yves @Maka never stole a dime from KQ.. There are several upright workers at the Pride of Africa.
The shareholders at KQ are wise and patient. Like the bamboo tree we wait for years patiently accumulating, then BAM! Millions in the bank

@ Diaz? Why do you think he resigned? Nailed in the forensic audit report. He was not going to survive the purge.

@Clarke - Messed ticketing big time. No commercial strategy put in place by him. He left the Airline very vulnerable to competition. Tickets being sold by agents and proceeds pocketed and no action from the Commercial Director.

@obiero, can you talk about something else please?

So everyone was dirty at KQ? Why would Bidco hire a goon? Which page of the forensic report lists either Yves, Diaz, or Clarke.. That's ignorance at the best and slander at the worst. Weka link tutatue hii kesi

KQ ABP 4.26
ArrestedDev
#8739 Posted : Thursday, October 19, 2017 1:51:15 AM
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obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@maka
1) Who didn't steal at/from KQ?
2) Who except shareholders didn't make money from KQ?

@Diaz @Clarke @Yves @Maka never stole a dime from KQ.. There are several upright workers at the Pride of Africa.
The shareholders at KQ are wise and patient. Like the bamboo tree we wait for years patiently accumulating, then BAM! Millions in the bank

@ Diaz? Why do you think he resigned? Nailed in the forensic audit report. He was not going to survive the purge.

@Clarke - Messed ticketing big time. No commercial strategy put in place by him. He left the Airline very vulnerable to competition. Tickets being sold by agents and proceeds pocketed and no action from the Commercial Director.

@obiero, can you talk about something else please?

So everyone was dirty at KQ? Why would Bidco hire a goon? Which page of the forensic report lists either Yves, Diaz, or Clarke.. That's ignorance at the best and slander at the worst. Weka link tutatue hii kesi


Have not mentioned Yves anywhere but remember what is called collective responsibility. If the top management mess up everything then even the one who never did anything wrong must take responsibility.

Chris Diaz looted through Safari Sevens Sponsorship. He was only months away from being sacked but opted to leave.

Where in the world can a Marketing Director allow merchandise worth millions of shillings to be single sourced if he is not part of the game?

http://www.theeastafrica...7700-14cqhfv/index.html

Quote:
Sponsorship deals were also marred by improprieties. The auditors said that in the 2014 and last year’s sponsorships, there was no contract between KQ and the Safari Sevens organising team and, hence, no obligation to the event organisers. This past week KQ lost its Safari Sevens sponsorship of the Kenya Rugby team to betting company SportPesa.

“Our review of documents revealed instances of potential irregularities in the procurement process followed when selecting suppliers. We noted instances where purchasing orders for Safari Sevens related to procurements in 2014 and 2015 had been raised and approved after the services had already been received by KQ,” the auditors said.



Gerald Clarke approved tickets to be sold in the promotion category and agents pocketed billions while the CO. suffered massive looses.Even a gangster like Alex Mbugua is now using the flaw to claim he was fired for nothing yet Commercial messed up everything.

Where in the world can a Commercial director and his managers who are all paid very well can allow revenue instruments of a Co. to be voided, reissued, refunded and whatever the satan knows occasioning a loss of $ 12 million.

http://www.theeastafrica...8194-qtvp0lz/index.html

Quote:

Most of the KQ ticket prices filed in its system were below the minimum seat cost as per its finance records. KQ issued more than 7 million seats between 2012 and last year at below price, resulting in a loss of $611.6 million.

“Our analysis of the Europe, India and Dubai routes revealed that up to 80 per cent of the seats were sold on promo or low yielding classes. This is a pointer that the revenue management practices at KQ may not be effectively managed to maximise revenue yields,” the auditors said.

The airline was also accused by the auditors of allowing its staff to void, refund and reissue tickets, causing a revenue loss of $12 million.

“Some of the changes included numerous occurrences of overbooked tickets, where staff with access to the Amadeus system would reopen closed fares and enable overbooking of tickets in lower fares,” the report states.

Travel agents were also accused of overcharging the premium on ticket prices to the airline’s corporate clients, making its tickets non-competitive in the market. For example, in 2014 and 2015, travel agents overcharged corporate clients by $312,650.


Stop defending people who looted the Co. dry and talk about something else.

Do not come and tell me Bidco here. We know the kind of things that happened there.
obiero
#8740 Posted : Thursday, October 19, 2017 7:08:37 AM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@maka
1) Who didn't steal at/from KQ?
2) Who except shareholders didn't make money from KQ?

@Diaz @Clarke @Yves @Maka never stole a dime from KQ.. There are several upright workers at the Pride of Africa.
The shareholders at KQ are wise and patient. Like the bamboo tree we wait for years patiently accumulating, then BAM! Millions in the bank

@ Diaz? Why do you think he resigned? Nailed in the forensic audit report. He was not going to survive the purge.

@Clarke - Messed ticketing big time. No commercial strategy put in place by him. He left the Airline very vulnerable to competition. Tickets being sold by agents and proceeds pocketed and no action from the Commercial Director.

@obiero, can you talk about something else please?

So everyone was dirty at KQ? Why would Bidco hire a goon? Which page of the forensic report lists either Yves, Diaz, or Clarke.. That's ignorance at the best and slander at the worst. Weka link tutatue hii kesi


Have not mentioned Yves anywhere but remember what is called collective responsibility. If the top management mess up everything then even the one who never did anything wrong must take responsibility.

Chris Diaz looted through Safari Sevens Sponsorship. He was only months away from being sacked but opted to leave.

Where in the world can a Marketing Director allow merchandise worth millions of shillings to be single sourced if he is not part of the game?

http://www.theeastafrica...7700-14cqhfv/index.html

Quote:
Sponsorship deals were also marred by improprieties. The auditors said that in the 2014 and last year’s sponsorships, there was no contract between KQ and the Safari Sevens organising team and, hence, no obligation to the event organisers. This past week KQ lost its Safari Sevens sponsorship of the Kenya Rugby team to betting company SportPesa.

“Our review of documents revealed instances of potential irregularities in the procurement process followed when selecting suppliers. We noted instances where purchasing orders for Safari Sevens related to procurements in 2014 and 2015 had been raised and approved after the services had already been received by KQ,” the auditors said.



Gerald Clarke approved tickets to be sold in the promotion category and agents pocketed billions while the CO. suffered massive looses.Even a gangster like Alex Mbugua is now using the flaw to claim he was fired for nothing yet Commercial messed up everything.

Where in the world can a Commercial director and his managers who are all paid very well can allow revenue instruments of a Co. to be voided, reissued, refunded and whatever the satan knows occasioning a loss of $ 12 million.

http://www.theeastafrica...8194-qtvp0lz/index.html

Quote:

Most of the KQ ticket prices filed in its system were below the minimum seat cost as per its finance records. KQ issued more than 7 million seats between 2012 and last year at below price, resulting in a loss of $611.6 million.

“Our analysis of the Europe, India and Dubai routes revealed that up to 80 per cent of the seats were sold on promo or low yielding classes. This is a pointer that the revenue management practices at KQ may not be effectively managed to maximise revenue yields,” the auditors said.

The airline was also accused by the auditors of allowing its staff to void, refund and reissue tickets, causing a revenue loss of $12 million.

“Some of the changes included numerous occurrences of overbooked tickets, where staff with access to the Amadeus system would reopen closed fares and enable overbooking of tickets in lower fares,” the report states.

Travel agents were also accused of overcharging the premium on ticket prices to the airline’s corporate clients, making its tickets non-competitive in the market. For example, in 2014 and 2015, travel agents overcharged corporate clients by $312,650.


Stop defending people who looted the Co. dry and talk about something else.

Do not come and tell me Bidco here. We know the kind of things that happened there.

So purchase of team jerseys is now a marketing role done by Diaz and not procurement.. And staff mischief on the booking system is Clarke fault. The links you avail point to none of the two. Collective responsibility is a term used but not understood. You steal as an individual not collectively. Hapa wazua utaona sampuli mingi ya binadamu

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