Abolish and phase out tribes and mother tongue languages in Kenya and only then will we start voting leaders based on merit, ability and quality instead of tribal inclinations like we are doing now. Very simple solution.

@ham, am surprised you have left out the bigger problem than tribe i.e religion. I have observed that atheists are more rational in their approach to issues.

Maybe it's their style of questioning everything. Or like @masukuma told us "knowledge trumps belief". But I doubt you can find an aethist who is also a diehard tribalist.

One day when religion loses its stranglehold on humanity, peace will prevail.

ION, Buddhism was supposed to be the cool religion which emphasizes inner peace and calm. Now we know they are cold blooded killers.

https://www.theguardian....yi-myanmar-icon-rohingya

@ham, am surprised you have left out the bigger problem than tribe i.e religion. I have observed that atheists are more rational in their approach to issues.

Maybe it's their style of questioning everything. Or like @masukuma told us "knowledge trumps belief". But I doubt you can find an aethist who is also a diehard tribalist.

One day when religion loses its stranglehold on humanity, peace will prevail.

ION, Buddhism was supposed to be the cool religion which emphasizes inner peace and calm. Now we know they are cold blooded killers.

https://www.theguardian....i-myanmar-icon-rohingya[/quote]

I hear you FRM2011 but religion is actually a world scourge that has been detrimental to humanity for decades. It has really held people back all over the globe and not just in Kenya. We shall revist religion some other day but as far as Kenya is concerned right now, tribes and tribalism is definitely the biggest problem. Right now the hatred between Luos and Kikuyus is really really despicable and could turn very ugly if we are not careful.

It's unbelievable how much people who live together, work together, inter-marry can have so much bad blood against each other. My point is, were Uhuru and Raila just some run of the mill Kenyans who speak only Swahili and English and not Kikuyu and Luo, we wouldn't be having all this trouble. The worst that would happen is we would be fighting and demonstrating against the development records, leadership qualities of each of them and progressive things like that. But that's not the case and will never be the case in Kenya until we abolish tribes and only have Swahili and English as the only languages.

This thing is so bad we even have tribal imbeciles getting into the mix in London and New York. Very unfortunate.

And yes, we atheists are rational beings and that's why we are hardly tribalists. We try to look at things objectively. There is nothing as powerful as seeking knowledge.

The nation state is a recent phenomenon to humanity. It's legal fiction engineered by lawyers and designed to benefit a small elite. The nation state has to be held together by force of arms, bribery of the elite through state jobs and tenders. The nation state is obsolete and it's likely to disappear by the turn of the century. Our obsession to create a nation state is tearing us apart.

Why can't we go back to the system of city states. Greek city states gave us the republic and democracy. Italian city states gave us the renaissance. The swahili city states lasted 500 years in prosperity and peaceful co-existence open trade. They created a distinctive culture and language. The history of humanity has been about creating cities and their hinterlands. That's the craft we need to rediscover

I think the nation state is ancient, especially when we realize that nations are almost always abstractions.

But I agree that nationhood is inefficient and even ineffective. Sadly not many of us have come to terms with this fact.

Exclusivity is the begining of imperialism and imperialism implies elitisim.

Does the international and global system have its own intelligence? How can we access this intelligence? Our craft relies so much on this.