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RAILA WITHDRAWS from Oct polls; Demands Fresh Elections
muganda
#41 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 6:32:44 PM
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2012 wrote:
It's time to go back to the Supreme Court again for an urgent interpretation. This time baba will be shocked. Not forgetting that all his demands are unconstitutional.

Luckily, ballot papers were going for printing today. They can now omit his name we move on.

@2012, you are very right. Because the 'presidential election' as per Raila 2013 ruling does not require fresh nominations, so how would '3 days after nomination' come in?
Hence, in my opinion, we may probably have an opportunity to see:

1. Another Court melodrama

2. Uhuru appealing to same court he insulted

3. Njoki Ndung'u probably having to go against the 'Raila 2013' she so loved

4. Maraga's court learning the wisdom between 'the greater Good' and 'God is in the detail'




kimanimsc
#42 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 6:32:54 PM
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kingfisher wrote:
kimanimsc wrote:
murchr wrote:


But IEBC chose to follow 2013 SC opinion. Thus,

Quote:
26. 290. Suppose, however, that the candidates, or a candidate who took part in the original election, dies or abandons the electoral quest before the scheduled date: then the provisions of Article 138(1) (b) would become applicable, with fresh nominations ensuing.”



Hiyo iko kwa katiba gani? What page?


That does not exist. CJ Mutunga and co wrote it in 2013, NASA did a C&P today, I did the same (C&P). We wait to hear from IEBC

murchr
#43 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 6:41:26 PM
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muganda wrote:
2012 wrote:
It's time to go back to the Supreme Court again for an urgent interpretation. This time baba will be shocked. Not forgetting that all his demands are unconstitutional.

Luckily, ballot papers were going for printing today. They can now omit his name we move on.

@2012, you are very right. Because the 'presidential election' as per Raila 2013 ruling does not require fresh nominations, so how would '3 days after nomination' come in?
Hence, in my opinion, we may probably have an opportunity to see:

1. Another Court melodrama

2. Uhuru appealing to same court he insulted

3. Njoki Ndung'u probably having to go against the 'Raila 2013' she so loved

4. Maraga's court learning the wisdom between 'the greater Good' and 'God is in the detail'





Fresh nominations do not equate to Fresh elections.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr
#44 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:05:28 PM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hardwood
#45 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:15:10 PM
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What if 8 of you were running for MCA and your opponent who becomes No 2 goes to court to petition your win and the court says kirudiwo. Then your opponent chickens out 2 weeks to the rematch. What would IEBC do? Common sense dictates that IEBC should declare you elected unopposed and you should be sworn in ASAP. Therefore Ohuru should be sworn in ASAP. There is no legal lacuna.
Mtublack
#46 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:26:06 PM
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Excuse me ladies and gentlemen, there is the small matter of the money raised using the paybill No,whats the way forward, tutakuwa na refund or what will happen
Some you win some you lose
harrydre
#47 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:26:09 PM
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NKT! Now I have to change my signature because LOP aka LOA has chickened out!
i.am.back!!!!
hardwood
#48 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:26:49 PM
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Jubilee should organize a major demo in nairobi tomorrow to demand that ohuru be sworn in immediately now that his opponent has surrendered.
murchr
#49 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:29:20 PM
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Mtublack wrote:
Excuse me ladies and gentlemen, there is the small matter of the money raised using the paybill No,whats the way forward, tutakuwa na refund or what will happen


Mli refundiwa ile ilikuwa ya waalimu? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Hio imeenda hivyo. That will cater for the taxi expenses in London
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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alma1
#50 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:32:01 PM
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Location: hapo
muganda wrote:
2012 wrote:
It's time to go back to the Supreme Court again for an urgent interpretation. This time baba will be shocked. Not forgetting that all his demands are unconstitutional.

Luckily, ballot papers were going for printing today. They can now omit his name we move on.

@2012, you are very right. Because the 'presidential election' as per Raila 2013 ruling does not require fresh nominations, so how would '3 days after nomination' come in?
Hence, in my opinion, we may probably have an opportunity to see:

1. Another Court melodrama

2. Uhuru appealing to same court he insulted

3. Njoki Ndung'u probably having to go against the 'Raila 2013' she so loved

4. Maraga's court learning the wisdom between 'the greater Good' and 'God is in the detail'






What I've learned from my short stint of watching Raila is that he's not as daft as people imagine.

Like the last time, I'll seat here and watch the wazua lawyers bash him. Instead of looking for a way to go around this. There has to be a way, but Ahmednassir has already started giving legal advise on twirra. Advise he failed miserably to articulate when it was important.

That Njoki Ndungu ruling is the crux of the matter.

Popcorn please.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

harrydre
#51 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:34:55 PM
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Posts: 9,131
Location: Kanjo
muganda wrote:
2012 wrote:
It's time to go back to the Supreme Court again for an urgent interpretation. This time baba will be shocked. Not forgetting that all his demands are unconstitutional.

Luckily, ballot papers were going for printing today. They can now omit his name we move on.

@2012, you are very right. Because the 'presidential election' as per Raila 2013 ruling does not require fresh nominations, so how would '3 days after nomination' come in?
Hence, in my opinion, we may probably have an opportunity to see:

1. Another Court melodrama

2. Uhuru appealing to same court he insulted

3. Njoki Ndung'u probably having to go against the 'Raila 2013' she so loved

4. Maraga's court learning the wisdom between 'the greater Good' and 'God is in the detail'






My prediction:-

If Aukot's petition is successful tomorrow, the elections on Oct 26 will go on bila baba.
If not, then IEBC will declare UK president.

After that baba might decide to go to court or just retire more 'honorably'

if he goes to court,

The Court will tell them it was ready to annul the repeat elections if IEBC repeated the same mistakes as it did on 8/8, they will then be asked why they withdrew yet the court is open?
i.am.back!!!!
thuks
#52 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:40:13 PM
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Mtublack wrote:
Excuse me ladies and gentlemen, there is the small matter of the money raised using the paybill No,whats the way forward, tutakuwa na refund or what will happen

"Kiendacho kwa mganga hakirudi" Laughing out loudly
I care!
muganda
#53 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:46:18 PM
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Joined: 9/15/2006
Posts: 3,907
harrydre wrote:
muganda wrote:
2012 wrote:
It's time to go back to the Supreme Court again for an urgent interpretation. This time baba will be shocked. Not forgetting that all his demands are unconstitutional.

Luckily, ballot papers were going for printing today. They can now omit his name we move on.

@2012, you are very right. Because the 'presidential election' as per Raila 2013 ruling does not require fresh nominations, so how would '3 days after nomination' come in?
Hence, in my opinion, we may probably have an opportunity to see:

1. Another Court melodrama

2. Uhuru appealing to same court he insulted

3. Njoki Ndung'u probably having to go against the 'Raila 2013' she so loved

4. Maraga's court learning the wisdom between 'the greater Good' and 'God is in the detail'






My prediction:-

If Aukot's petition is successful tomorrow, the elections on Oct 26 will go on bila baba.
If not, then IEBC will declare UK president.

After that baba might decide to go to court or just retire more 'honorably'

if he goes to court,

The Court will tell them it was ready to annul the repeat elections if IEBC repeated the same mistakes as it did on 8/8, they will then be asked why they withdrew yet the court is open?


Quite happy with your prediction. It would be mighty convenient if Aukot was on the ballot. Then we can move on.
limanika
#54 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:48:55 PM
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I don’t hold brief for IEBC but if I did, my response to NASA would be as follows:
• The purported withdrawal is time barred and, actually, invalid. Candidates are only allowed to withdraw at most within three days of the nomination. This is in public interest, to avoid the country incurring heavy costs. Even then, the withdrawal contemplated in the current applicable law is where a candidate does not wish to participate any more. IEBC is of the understanding that NASA is still interested to participate in the election, only that they are requesting a postponement.
• The supreme court ordered there must be a fresh election within 60 days
• The issue of who participates in the fresh election is still in court
• IEBC has no legal mandate in law to cancel the election and order another one in 3 months as demanded by NASA
• The grounds cited by NASA have been addressed. The court has also ruled that IEBC, as currently constituted, is able to conduct fair election.
By the fore going, IEBC having gone through the request, do not find any reasonable basis to postpone the election as requested. The election planned for 26th will go on as planned, in accordance with SC’s orders. For the avoidance of doubt, IEBC will make an application at the court to affirm this position.
alma1
#55 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:51:45 PM
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Location: hapo
muganda wrote:
harrydre wrote:
muganda wrote:
2012 wrote:
It's time to go back to the Supreme Court again for an urgent interpretation. This time baba will be shocked. Not forgetting that all his demands are unconstitutional.

Luckily, ballot papers were going for printing today. They can now omit his name we move on.

@2012, you are very right. Because the 'presidential election' as per Raila 2013 ruling does not require fresh nominations, so how would '3 days after nomination' come in?
Hence, in my opinion, we may probably have an opportunity to see:

1. Another Court melodrama

2. Uhuru appealing to same court he insulted

3. Njoki Ndung'u probably having to go against the 'Raila 2013' she so loved

4. Maraga's court learning the wisdom between 'the greater Good' and 'God is in the detail'






My prediction:-

If Aukot's petition is successful tomorrow, the elections on Oct 26 will go on bila baba.
If not, then IEBC will declare UK president.

After that baba might decide to go to court or just retire more 'honorably'

if he goes to court,

The Court will tell them it was ready to annul the repeat elections if IEBC repeated the same mistakes as it did on 8/8, they will then be asked why they withdrew yet the court is open?


Quite happy with your prediction. It would be mighty convenient if Aukot was on the ballot. Then we can move on.


Hapa ndio kuna shida..

Note the words "a candidate" , "abandons" That's Kenyan law ala Njoki Ndungu and co

This is not as easy as watching a rubgy match. Iebc and Jubilee need to get extremely good lawyers. I would suggest Kanjama for them. He would find something. These ones like Ahmednassir are too busy blogging.

Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

ngapat
#56 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:53:45 PM
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The constitutional coup

Phase 1: Maraga Annuls

Phase 2: Raila Withdraws

Phase 3: Chebukati Resigns......

Waiting for Phase 3
“Invest in yourself. Your career is the engine of your wealth.”
murchr
#57 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:57:02 PM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
hardwood
#58 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:57:32 PM
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Baba is finished. Kapput. The dynamic duo has him by his balls...literally.

Much Know
#59 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 8:00:02 PM
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alma1 wrote:
muganda wrote:
harrydre wrote:
muganda wrote:
2012 wrote:
It's time to go back to the Supreme Court again for an urgent interpretation. This time baba will be shocked. Not forgetting that all his demands are unconstitutional.

Luckily, ballot papers were going for printing today. They can now omit his name we move on.

@2012, you are very right. Because the 'presidential election' as per Raila 2013 ruling does not require fresh nominations, so how would '3 days after nomination' come in?
Hence, in my opinion, we may probably have an opportunity to see:

1. Another Court melodrama

2. Uhuru appealing to same court he insulted

3. Njoki Ndung'u probably having to go against the 'Raila 2013' she so loved

4. Maraga's court learning the wisdom between 'the greater Good' and 'God is in the detail'






My prediction:-

If Aukot's petition is successful tomorrow, the elections on Oct 26 will go on bila baba.
If not, then IEBC will declare UK president.

After that baba might decide to go to court or just retire more 'honorably'

if he goes to court,

The Court will tell them it was ready to annul the repeat elections if IEBC repeated the same mistakes as it did on 8/8, they will then be asked why they withdrew yet the court is open?


Quite happy with your prediction. It would be mighty convenient if Aukot was on the ballot. Then we can move on.


Hapa ndio kuna shida..

Note the words "a candidate" , "abandons" That's Kenyan law ala Njoki Ndungu and co

This is not as easy as watching a rubgy match. Iebc and Jubilee need to get extremely good lawyers. I would suggest Kanjama for them. He would find something. These ones like Ahmednassir are too busy blogging.


Garbage, those laws regard a run off, this was not a runoff, swear in Uhuru tomorrow!
Ras Kienyeji Man
Jump-steady
#60 Posted : Tuesday, October 10, 2017 8:01:38 PM
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ngapat wrote:
The constitutional coup

Phase 1: Maraga Annuls

Phase 2: Raila Withdraws

Phase 3: Chebukati Resigns......

Waiting for Phase 3

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