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Round 2 is time to finish off baba politically
limanika
#621 Posted : Thursday, October 05, 2017 8:53:09 PM
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thuks wrote:
murchr wrote:
Nation wrote:


The electoral agency Chairman Wafula Chebukati has gone back to the Supreme Court to seek clarification on his role as regards to verification of results declaration forms.

He argued that while the Court of Appeal had in the Maina Kiai case ruled that what is announced at the polling station is final, the Supreme Court in its landmark ruling that invalidated the August 8 poll indicted him for not verifying the crucial documents.

“Arising from the judgment of this Honourable Court, I am now unclear as to what as the returning officer for the presidential election I am supposed to do in view of the clear prohibition at page 39 of the judgment of the Court of Appeal in the Maina Kiai case barring me from “varying, confirming, altering, modifying or adjusting the results,” Mr Chebukati says in an affidavit filed at the Supreme Court on Thursday.

The Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) argues that the apex court should ‘complete the lacuna in its direction” that it says will be critical ahead of the fresh poll scheduled for October 26.

“The failure by the 1st Respondent to verify the results in consultation with the 2nd Respondent, before the latter declared them, therefore went against the expectation of Article 138 (3) (c) of the Constitution…we find little or nothing in this decision [Maina Kiai] to suggest that, by deciding the way it did, the appellate court restrained or barred the 1st Respondent from verifying the results before declaring them,” the Supreme Court had said in its 4-2 majority judgment.




Very precise prayer but 'veiled' goggles hinder understanding.

But in real sense it is the legislature who've put us in this mess...by doing half baked job with elections act...how errors at various stages of the electoral cycle are handled prior to final announcement of results should be the subject of comprehensive regulations and legislation. When you do half baked job and leave it to the courts to make determinations, be ready to live with the consequences
hardwood
#622 Posted : Friday, October 06, 2017 10:02:38 AM
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Meanwhile thousands of akamba continue to defect to jubilee.

https://www.the-star.co....ilee-in-nakuru_c1647902


This is the feeling of the akamba.

Quote:
Mbaitu,
Akamba twivetane na mbilondo nundu ii vandu nzaluo ikutwaite.
Eka muthelo, utumanu, ukya, kimena, kiwiu, kiima, Vai kindu nzaluo ikutethya nakyo.
We must rise as kambas and cut our relationship with luos.
We are Bantus, have cultural relationship with GEMA, share boundaries, intermarriage is common, trading with them has been there since days of chief kivoi, we have benefited more from Kibaki, Kenyatta 1 and Kenyatta 2 governments than Raila nusu mkate, benefited from MOI Government
And we are likely to benefit more from ruto Government than from RAILAS still birth.
Akamba twikale Tu kyene.
Much Know
#623 Posted : Friday, October 06, 2017 10:25:15 AM
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It is the same power hungry group of evil forces that arranged for our young African leaders, Uhuru and Ruto to be sacrificed at ICC still haunting us, meanwhile their leaders are left to kill poor farmer's and their families with wanton destruction of the environment, hoodwinking the poor using poor and stuffing billions into their families account's, now 23billion has already started being spent, we are therefore forced to go ahead and pour the whole amount down the drain as a third world "experiment" through some NGO's, and the judge says he can make us do it all again, full of nugu shenzi type nyeez and lust for power at whatever cost.
Ras Kienyeji Man
washiku
#624 Posted : Friday, October 06, 2017 2:16:05 PM
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segemia
#625 Posted : Friday, October 06, 2017 2:25:42 PM
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washiku wrote:
What are they hiding?



The judiciary is hiding the evidence of fake reports and other misrepresentations that they used to annul the presidential election.
2012
#626 Posted : Friday, October 06, 2017 2:40:01 PM
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washiku wrote:
What are they hiding?



That smoke about some NASA lawyers meeting with some judges is starting to look like a serious bonfire now.

BBI will solve it
:)
segemia
#627 Posted : Friday, October 06, 2017 2:52:37 PM
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If Judiciary is refusing to cooperate, why don't the EACC, the police and the DCI just storm there and get what they want. They have done it elsewhere. Or are judiciary staff immune to the law?
murchr
#628 Posted : Friday, October 06, 2017 8:33:10 PM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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thuks
#629 Posted : Friday, October 06, 2017 9:59:33 PM
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segemia wrote:
If Judiciary is refusing to cooperate, why don't the EACC, the police and the DCI just storm there and get what they want. They have done it elsewhere. Or are judiciary staff immune to the law?

Accept @nd muv on is the mantra.. 26th ifike, either way upuzi iishe
I care!
hardwood
#630 Posted : Monday, October 09, 2017 9:43:44 AM
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Mutahi ngunyi now says Maraga should be charged with high treason for using fake documents to annul ohuru win.


Bigchick
#631 Posted : Monday, October 09, 2017 9:59:08 AM
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hardwood wrote:
Mutahi ngunyi now says Maraga should be charged with high treason for using fake documents to annul ohuru win.





I concur.

I really wonder what Maragas thoughts are now that the fake documents story is out.Is he guilty?Does he appreciate the mess he has put Kenya into?Politically and Economically?Does he seek guidance from Elders say of SDA church?

If I were him?I would call a press conference,apologise to the nation and reverse the judgement.Then scribble a quick suicide note and exit the world.

Mwilu should follow after one month of soul searching and reflection.
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faa
#632 Posted : Monday, October 09, 2017 10:21:26 AM
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Bigchick wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Mutahi ngunyi now says Maraga should be charged with high treason for using fake documents to annul ohuru win.





I concur.

I really wonder what Maragas thoughts are now that the fake documents story is out.Is he guilty?Does he appreciate the mess he has put Kenya into?Politically and Economically?Does he seek guidance from Elders say of SDA church?

If I were him?I would call a press conference,apologise to the nation and reverse the judgement.Then scribble a quick suicide note and exit the world.

Mwilu should follow after one month of soul searching and reflection.


maraga needs to be crushed. He messed up this country to unimaginable scale..

1. Do not sympathize with your enemies.
Your enemy will bide his time and strike back when you least expect.

2. When you pity or hope for reconciliation, it will make you hesitate.

They may act friendly for the time being, but they will eventually destroy you

3. An enemy that is left around is like a half-dead viper that you nurse back to health.

You only strengthen their fear and hatred of you.
hardwood
#633 Posted : Monday, October 09, 2017 1:41:48 PM
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limanika
#634 Posted : Monday, October 09, 2017 2:42:17 PM
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Why can't iebc take radical decision and include aukot in the ballot coz they don't know which way the high court will rule yet time not on their side?
murchr
#635 Posted : Monday, October 09, 2017 5:40:54 PM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Shak
#636 Posted : Monday, October 09, 2017 6:14:00 PM
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murchr wrote:

Dude has defected to Jubilee. Wonders never cease. If indeed Babu won the elections by a landslide, why are people deserting him in droves?
hardwood
#637 Posted : Monday, October 09, 2017 6:20:02 PM
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Narok anti-IEBC demos put off after Maasai leaders defect to Jubilee


https://www.the-star.co....ect-to-jubilee_c1649477

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Fullykenyan
#638 Posted : Monday, October 09, 2017 7:31:19 PM
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murchr wrote:



This is so wrong on all Levels. What jicho pevu and Omar Hassan have done, negates the values of true Democracy. If dissatisfied with NASA, the should then have followed middle of the path road. They should have overseen the creation of a third movement. The choice is not always either Uhuru or Raila.
murchr
#639 Posted : Monday, October 09, 2017 7:37:56 PM
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Fullykenyan wrote:
murchr wrote:



This is so wrong on all Levels. What jicho pevu and Omar Hassan have done, negates the values of true Democracy. If dissatisfied with NASA, the should then have followed middle of the path road. They should have overseen the creation of a third movement. The choice is not always either Uhuru or Raila.


What if that does not exist? What if they found out they were wrong all along? The choice is theirs anyone disatisfied is free to form that 3rd party(Aukot?)
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hardwood
#640 Posted : Monday, October 09, 2017 8:02:59 PM
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Reports say that Kalonzo is also on his way to jubilee.



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