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UNGA FY17 :-(
VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Friday, September 29, 2017 2:26:37 PM
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The loss was expected [as I opined earlier] with the maize shortage [poor quality, high prices], issues with Ennsvalley [esp in Nakumatt] and bad debts of Nakumatt.

I hope they have cleaned up the books for a better/stronger 2018-19.

The (bad) news about Uganda was unexpected. They had closed the maize milling plant but it seems they have issues with the wheat mill too. I hope Unga can either sell the factory or use the warehouses for storage/distribution of products from Kenya.

Positive outlook on the expansion of storage and a new factory/plant coming online in late 2018.
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Ericsson
#12 Posted : Friday, September 29, 2017 2:51:04 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
The loss was expected [as I opined earlier] with the maize shortage [poor quality, high prices], issues with Ennsvalley [esp in Nakumatt] and bad debts of Nakumatt.

I hope they have cleaned up the books for a better/stronger 2018-19.

The (bad) news about Uganda was unexpected. They had closed the maize milling plant but it seems they have issues with the wheat mill too. I hope Unga can either sell the factory or use the warehouses for storage/distribution of products from Kenya.

Positive outlook on the expansion of storage and a new factory/plant coming online in late 2018.

Yaani everything you expected ama is it trying to give yourself soft landing/console yourself.
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VituVingiSana
#13 Posted : Friday, September 29, 2017 3:18:47 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
The loss was expected [as I opined earlier] with the maize shortage [poor quality, high prices], issues with Ennsvalley [esp in Nakumatt] and bad debts of Nakumatt.

I hope they have cleaned up the books for a better/stronger 2018-19.

The (bad) news about Uganda was unexpected. They had closed the maize milling plant but it seems they have issues with the wheat mill too. I hope Unga can either sell the factory or use the warehouses for storage/distribution of products from Kenya.

Positive outlook on the expansion of storage and a new factory/plant coming online in late 2018.

Yaani everything you expected ama is it trying to give yourself soft landing/console yourself.


I expected the losses from maize and Ennsvalley [Nakumatt] since this info has been in the news since 2016. I am glad they bit the bullet instead of pretending Nakumatt will pay!

Uganda - They reported (FY 2015-16) that the maize mill has been scrapped. The news on the wheat mill is a bit of a surprise. The property might be worth something but they should partner with Centum on this!!!

Ennsvalley - I can't figure out what they mean by the "gain" on buying out the minority shareholder. This requires more info.

Kenya expansion - Mentioned in FY 2015-16 Annual Report and at the AGM and the management said these would be immediately profitable since demand for wheat flour is growing.

Maize - The imports seem to have helped normalize the situation going into 2017-18.
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Ebenyo
#14 Posted : Friday, September 29, 2017 3:36:45 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:




The company need to come up with measures to reduce costs.
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Ericsson
#15 Posted : Friday, September 29, 2017 3:39:39 PM
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Don't forget also competition eating into their market share and depressing their margins
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wukan
#16 Posted : Tuesday, October 03, 2017 2:51:52 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
wukan wrote:
Is there a sector that is doing well in this economy?

Sector Cytonn

waiting for it at 15bob


With 22 bob per share in cash reserves you can't get it at 15 bob
Angelica _ann
#17 Posted : Tuesday, October 03, 2017 3:01:05 PM
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wukan wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
wukan wrote:
Is there a sector that is doing well in this economy?

Sector Cytonn

waiting for it at 15bob


With 22 bob per share in cash reserves you can't get it at 15 bob


Which can be wiped out in an instance the way things are going with Kenya politics.... smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
obiero
#18 Posted : Tuesday, October 03, 2017 6:08:35 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
wukan wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
wukan wrote:
Is there a sector that is doing well in this economy?

Sector Cytonn

waiting for it at 15bob


With 22 bob per share in cash reserves you can't get it at 15 bob


Which can be wiped out in an instance the way things are going with Kenya politics.... smile

It's already wiped out, check the cashflow

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Impunity
#19 Posted : Tuesday, October 03, 2017 6:31:21 PM
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Blame it NASA's ungainly revolution.
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Angelica _ann
#20 Posted : Tuesday, October 03, 2017 6:49:36 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Blame it NASA's ungainly revolution.


NASA & Baba killing economy!!!
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