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Now we can reveal what Naswa mean when they say ‘there shall be no election’
• It doesn’t mean that they will boycott the election
• It doesn’t mean that they will ask their supporters to refrain from voting
• It doesn’t mean that there will be violence to such a scale that a free and fair election will not be possible
• It doesn’t mean that their principle will withdraw from the race…
They simply mean, the election that will be carried out will not be a valid election…..coz an election is not an election if not carried within the law.
Now, we must ask, what is the law of election? And what can make an election be invalidated? Going by the SCork ruling, process is as important, if not more important than the actual votes cast…and this is now law ‘by precedence’. On process, many things can go wrong when engaging in an election of this scale. From returning officers being ‘kidnapped’ or disappearing conveniently hence not able to sign the Form 34Bs, Jamming of network, use of wrong forms, etc etc. And someone can easily manufacture any of these flaws.
Why Naswa appear confident that the election will not be conducted ‘within the law’ or why someone should anticipate / wish for such eventuality is something I don’t quite understand. It could only mean someone is being mischievous.
However it is my considered opinion that the answer to this ‘mischief’ lies in the proposed amendments coz even if IEBC prepare 100% perfectly, someone can still deliberately cause things to go wrong on election day. Or what do you think?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,935
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limanika wrote:Now we can reveal what Naswa mean when they say ‘there shall be no election’
• It doesn’t mean that they will boycott the election
• It doesn’t mean that they will ask their supporters to refrain from voting
• It doesn’t mean that there will be violence to such a scale that a free and fair election will not be possible
• It doesn’t mean that their principle will withdraw from the race…
They simply mean, the election that will be carried out will not be a valid election…..coz an election is not an election if not carried within the law.
Now, we must ask, what is the law of election? And what can make an election be invalidated? Going by the SCork ruling, process is as important, if not more important than the actual votes cast…and this is now law ‘by precedence’. On process, many things can go wrong when engaging in an election of this scale. From returning officers being ‘kidnapped’ or disappearing conveniently hence not able to sign the Form 34Bs, Jamming of network, use of wrong forms, etc etc. And someone can easily manufacture any of these flaws.
Why Naswa appear confident that the election will not be conducted ‘within the law’ or why someone should anticipate / wish for such eventuality is something I don’t quite understand. It could only mean someone is being mischievous.
However it is my considered opinion that the answer to this ‘mischief’ lies in the proposed amendments coz even if IEBC prepare 100% perfectly, someone can still deliberately cause things to go wrong on election day. Or what do you think?
Be kind enough to acknowledge the source of your write-up  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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Angelica _ann wrote:limanika wrote:Now we can reveal what Naswa mean when they say ‘there shall be no election’
• It doesn’t mean that they will boycott the election
• It doesn’t mean that they will ask their supporters to refrain from voting
• It doesn’t mean that there will be violence to such a scale that a free and fair election will not be possible
• It doesn’t mean that their principle will withdraw from the race…
They simply mean, the election that will be carried out will not be a valid election…..coz an election is not an election if not carried within the law.
Now, we must ask, what is the law of election? And what can make an election be invalidated? Going by the SCork ruling, process is as important, if not more important than the actual votes cast…and this is now law ‘by precedence’. On process, many things can go wrong when engaging in an election of this scale. From returning officers being ‘kidnapped’ or disappearing conveniently hence not able to sign the Form 34Bs, Jamming of network, use of wrong forms, etc etc. And someone can easily manufacture any of these flaws.
Why Naswa appear confident that the election will not be conducted ‘within the law’ or why someone should anticipate / wish for such eventuality is something I don’t quite understand. It could only mean someone is being mischievous.
However it is my considered opinion that the answer to this ‘mischief’ lies in the proposed amendments coz even if IEBC prepare 100% perfectly, someone can still deliberately cause things to go wrong on election day. Or what do you think?
Be kind enough to acknowledge the source of your write-up Mwenye macho haambiwi tazama
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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It means as long as Baba does not win, there will be no election. When he wins, that will be an election. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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 "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/9/2010 Posts: 784 Location: ant hill - red hill
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Is that why Ekuru Aukot was dismissed? The greatest act of bravery is chancing a fart while suffering from diarrhoea
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,935
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safariant wrote:Is that why Ekuru Aukot was dismissed? What is the interpretation of this? In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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No elections means: Why participate in elections and lose everything while you can force a nusu mkate and get something?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Angelica _ann wrote:safariant wrote:Is that why Ekuru Aukot was dismissed? What is the interpretation of this? Babu wants to pull out of elections so that we can go for Fresh elections. Hence the amendment that if anyone pulls out, then the last man standing becomes president. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,935
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murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:safariant wrote:Is that why Ekuru Aukot was dismissed? What is the interpretation of this? Babu wants to pull out of elections so that we can go for Fresh elections. Hence the amendment that if anyone pulls out, then the last man standing becomes president. Now I understand why Ruto has not been yapping about this amendments to the electoral laws the way he is known to do on stuff against Baba  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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