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You are right @hardwood. Quite ashamed. This Angela Mbuthia took me to the cleaners. Deputy President University of Nairobi 2016/2017, from Kabete (Very very Outgoing!!! Curious!!! Happiness my ultimate goal...life is too short!!!)
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hardwood wrote:FRM2011 wrote:I hope your cousin is not a she. The stories am hearing. There is a video where the GSU were each picking a girl from a group and leave with her. But tunasema tano Tena. Na Ruto Kumi. It is raila who started this chain reaction with his lies about algorithms and servers and stolen elections. And it consumed people in kibera, mathare and kisumu including babay pendo and now as you can see the baba generated chaos have spread to lecture rooms. You remember what he did in 07/08 which ended with 1300 dead and 600,000 displaced. Baba is public enemy no 1 the cause of all the problems in KE. For how long will he continue to mess up people's lives just because he cant win an election? He is a very DANGEROUS MAN! A New Kenya
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Sad that it is the students who were studying or resting in their hostels that were attacked and arrested, and not the ones who were fighting the police in the streets. We need a commission of inquiry into this matter. 
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hardwood wrote:Cousin tells me they were having a class with their professor. Earlier there had been running battles with students on mamlaka road. The prof had locked the door of the lecture room and lecturers had also locked the doors to ADD building. Then when gsu were chasing some students on mamlaka road, they saw some students inside the ADD building and thats when they fired tear gas into the building and broke the door and then started beating the student. The professors were also trapped inside. The gsu started asking for money to release the students and my cousin gave the 300 bob alikuwa nayo. Akaenda nyumbani. Then gsu moved to the hostels further terrorizing the students who were hiding there.
Now cousin is traumatized and says haendi UoN tena and ameanza 1st year just this month. What really pained yeye is that the police beat them up and tore up the drawings they were making in the architecture studio. The prof was also tear gased. During our Year - 90's, the idiots teargassed us in the middle of exams in ADD. The more things change, the more they remain the same as French says. Jana, another baton welding battalion waylaid UoN Med students as they were being driven from routine classes in Mathare hospital in the evening. They stopped the bus on the way and stormed inside. One of them read a name - Wafula on a student's name tag and bounced on the poor student saying 'Hapa sio ... huko kwenu. The student (Medic to be) suffered serious injuries before a commander came to his rescue.I pray recovers quickly to resume classes!
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hardwood wrote:Sad that it is the students who were studying or resting in their hostels that were attacked and arrested, and not the ones who were fighting the police in the streets. We need a commission of inquiry into this matter. Ask the wakabila Judges, they were warned about this but kept insisting democracy is not about numbers, this is their ruling system, they are currently the rulers not jubilee or Uhuru, they have interfered with his power, they want only to share executive "power" and " authority" and forget it comes with responsibility, please don't blame gsu e.t.c because supreme court are in charge! A New Kenya
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Much Know wrote:hardwood wrote:Sad that it is the students who were studying or resting in their hostels that were attacked and arrested, and not the ones who were fighting the police in the streets. We need a commission of inquiry into this matter. Ask the wakabila Judges, they were warned about this but kept insisting democracy is not about numbers, this is their ruling system, they are currently the rulers not jubilee or Uhuru, they have interfered with his power, they want only to share executive "power" and " authority" and forget it comes with responsibility, please don't blame gsu e.t.c because supreme court are in charge! Interesting arguments... Beware, the end does not justify the means. Surprisingly, neither do the means justify the end.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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muganda wrote:hardwood wrote:So Luo No 1 RAO and his mtoto wa mbwa Babu owino start the whole mess and you blame okuyos? Ignore any allusions of blame or tribe. My intention was only to share the video, not so much the originator's comment. Shida ni D minus!! until we fix the issue of police being a force... and not a service... we have a problem. I have seen akina hardwood carelessly uttering words like 'we should open up nyayo house' e.t.c. BOSS!!! Same instrument will be used to cut you! find a way to live with those people you feel are your enemies and ensuring that you deal with them in exactly the same manner they should/world deal with you if they get power! remember - the shoe can change feet! you must be willing to live with what you dish out to others. You must be sure that the worst person can be president but the institutions in place will not hurt you as a person! We must be at a place where Kikuyus don't fear Raila (who they think is the worst person) being president coz... ATA DO? but as long as the state can squeeze balls, 'open/hack servers and plant viruses' e.t.c. chuma chako kimotoni! Celebrate tyranny and know that the tyrant will one day come for you! This is what you should be doing when you have 'uthamaki'.... NEUTERING THE POWERS OF THE STATE ON THE INDIVIDUAL! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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I am very amazed that a whole damn lecturer can confine some students in a lecture hall in the name of teaching while there is serious riots just outside. I am really amazed that a whole class of students would risk their lives by voluntarily staying put in a lecture hall waiting for the anti-riot police to step right inside and clobber them senseless. I am also amazed that there were students in the halls of residences as the riots were going on. Truely amazed!!! It seems the rules have changed or the students have become more damn. Why? During our times before the riots started, most of the students used to pack their belongings just in case things turned really urgly. During the riots, there were two no go zones, the halls and the lecture theatres. CCU and the kitchens were kept at very close range. When I looked at the real reason why these students were rioting, I found none. ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Kaigangio wrote:I am very amazed that a whole damn lecturer can confine some students in a lecture hall in the name of teaching while there is serious riots just outside.
I am really amazed that a whole class of students would risk their lives by voluntarily staying put in a lecture hall waiting for the anti-riot police to step right inside and clobber them senseless.
I am also amazed that there were students in the halls of residences as the riots were going on.
Truely amazed!!!
It seems the rules have changed or the students have become more damn. Why? During our times before the riots started, most of the students used to pack their belongings just in case things turned really urgly. During the riots, there were two no go zones, the halls and the lecture theatres. CCU and the kitchens were kept at very close range.
When I looked at the real reason why these students were rioting, I found none. I just had to finish my sabatical. With all the intarahamwes on wazua. I knew it was going to go downhill fast but not this fast. Kaigangio you were never in the UON. I was in that ADD class a few years ago when we were also removed from our lecture halls as we were studying and beaten up. Up to that time, the only people who used to go on strike were some few fellows. After they removed people from classes, the whole college had to be shut down for 2 years. We weren't going to take being beaten up sitting down. After that, Moi was gone. I wonder what those girls had to do with Babu abusing Uhuru. I wonder what a student busy in class has to do with rioting in the streets. It was something that the Kikuyu elite learned the hard way from Moi. The laws they created to tame Moi, were used on them RUTHLESSLY. When someone with children can claim that it is the child's fault for being a student so he should be removed from his dorm room, class and beaten so that Uhuru can feel good, then we have a problem. So after beating up those students, is Uhuru a better president today than yesterday? And you were never in any campus. We as former campus students know exactly what these police thugs do to young girls during this periods. And it has nothing to do with Jubilee or Nasa. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Kaigangio wrote:I am very amazed that a whole damn lecturer can confine some students in a lecture hall in the name of teaching while there is serious riots just outside.
I am really amazed that a whole class of students would risk their lives by voluntarily staying put in a lecture hall waiting for the anti-riot police to step right inside and clobber them senseless.
I am also amazed that there were students in the halls of residences as the riots were going on.
Truely amazed!!!
It seems the rules have changed or the students have become more damn. Why? During our times before the riots started, most of the students used to pack their belongings just in case things turned really urgly. During the riots, there were two no go zones, the halls and the lecture theatres. CCU and the kitchens were kept at very close range.
When I looked at the real reason why these students were rioting, I found none. In my cousins case, they are 1st years who joined on sept 4th. Just about 3 weeks old in campus. Some do not even know the layout of the campus, all they know is the lecture room and hostel. These are students who just completed form 4 the other day and are eager to learn and are excited by their new course. So when the time table or professor says they should be in class, they go to class. They are naive, dont understant campus riots and some dont know who babu owino is.
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If our gsu ni D na E hawa wengine wa ADD wanajiringa na nini basi? Ati they are "clever", some of those gsu guys are from there. When we are building trains we call chinese we don't use our "the" ADD grads, hata kengen ama kplc they do jerk but import transforners and sign proformas e t.c we call Chinese, they can do jerk for all this bragging, hata buildings are designed majuu, it's not that they are not capable, they are extremely smart, they built a world class wazua, we are a poor third world country and dissing your brothers who pay fees for these ADD kumbaffs who produce nothing despite all the garment pampering and special certificate to sign tender's e.t.c not everyone worships the output from "the" to the point of demeaning other poor Kenyan doing their work, Maraga is a product of "the" and more stupid than any of those aksaris, the guy is a shame, shame on his university, performance for your output is now becoming a national problem. The President position is a uniting figurehead position, the end of an election brings closure, certainity and order,we are all suffering including hustlers, this election the CS of Finance says will cost 30billion, this are very uncertain times and RISKY FOR EVERYONE, if the situation deteriorates, gsu may have problems managing all of us, the supreme court has taken the power. A New Kenya
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Hiyo ni collateral damage. Happens in any war. Pamba started all this with so called demos, propagandas and demands. babu made it worse. Why should students be defending a criminal? Let the law take its course. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Much Know wrote:If our gsu ni D na E hawa wengine wa ADD wanajiringa na nini basi? Ati they are "clever", some of those gsu guys are from there. When we are building trains we call chinese we don't use our "the" ADD grads, hata kengen ama kplc they do jerk but import transforners and sign proformas e t.c we call Chinese, they can do jerk for all this bragging, hata buildings are designed majuu, it's not that they are not capable, they are extremely smart, they built a world class wazua, we are a poor third world country and dissing your brothers who pay fees for these ADD kumbaffs who produce nothing despite all the garment pampering and special certificate to sign tender's e.t.c not everyone worships the output from "the" to the point of demeaning other poor Kenyan doing their work, Maraga is a product of "the" and more stupid than any of those aksaris, the guy is a shame, shame on his university, performance for your output is now becoming a national problem.
The President position is a uniting figurehead position, the end of an election brings closure, certainity and order,we are all suffering including hustlers, this election the CS of Finance says will cost 30billion, this are very uncertain times and RISKY FOR EVERYONE, if the situation deteriorates, gsu may have problems managing all of us, the supreme court has taken the power. These days it seems very few people can understand what you are writing. But As you have said, the President is a uniting figure. I am very sure that he has united these young children. I am sure those that voted for Jubilee were removed from the lineup and let to go home so that the cops could deal with Babu Owino. Oooopps Babu Owino was not even there. My fren, we saw Moi. We know what he did. We know his methods. And he still went home. It's actually strange that I'm comparing the current police tactics to Moi. How strange. And the same answers given for beating up students is the same given now. "Hawana adhabu". Strange stuff I tell you. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Babu owino, maraga, mwilu, the stone throwing students, they are all from Nairobi university, whose ptobelm in training people to think is this? Whose failure? Your failures coming back to haunt you. A New Kenya
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Much Know wrote:If our gsu ni D na E hawa wengine wa ADD wanajiringa na nini basi? Ati they are "clever", some of those gsu guys are from there. When we are building trains we call chinese we don't use our "the" ADD grads, hata kengen ama kplc they do jerk but import transforners and sign proformas e t.c we call Chinese, they can do jerk for all this bragging, hata buildings are designed majuu, it's not that they are not capable, they are extremely smart, they built a world class wazua, we are a poor third world country and dissing your brothers who pay fees for these ADD kumbaffs who produce nothing despite all the garment pampering and special certificate to sign tender's e.t.c not everyone worships the output from "the" to the point of demeaning other poor Kenyan doing their work, Maraga is a product of "the" and more stupid than any of those aksaris, the guy is a shame, shame on his university, performance for your output is now becoming a national problem.
The President position is a uniting figurehead position, the end of an election brings closure, certainity and order,we are all suffering including hustlers, this election the CS of Finance says will cost 30billion, this are very uncertain times and RISKY FOR EVERYONE, if the situation deteriorates, gsu may have problems managing all of us, the supreme court has taken the power. I agree with you that the supreme court should have exercised wisdom in its ruling. Even baba (and his supporters) had accepted that he lost the election and the ruling even surprised him and now he doesnt know what to do and that is why he isnt campaigning coz he doenst want to spend cash on a useless activity because he knows he will still lose on 26/10. That is why he is holed in the city throwing tantrums and churning out press conferences one after the other to remain relevant. The judges should have looked at the bigger picture and put the country first, and ruled for peace and stability. They should have assessed baba's chances of winning and capacity to govern now that jubilee has a majority in all seats from mca to gov. But by ruling the way they did they put the country on the edge and also punished baba by subjecting him to yet another election where he will lose. And also the beating those students got is due to that stupid ruling coz if the election wasnt annulled baba and babu wouldn't have been in kawangware abusing ohuru and the students wont have rioted.
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alma1 wrote:Much Know wrote:If our gsu ni D na E hawa wengine wa ADD wanajiringa na nini basi? Ati they are "clever", some of those gsu guys are from there. When we are building trains we call chinese we don't use our "the" ADD grads, hata kengen ama kplc they do jerk but import transforners and sign proformas e t.c we call Chinese, they can do jerk for all this bragging, hata buildings are designed majuu, it's not that they are not capable, they are extremely smart, they built a world class wazua, we are a poor third world country and dissing your brothers who pay fees for these ADD kumbaffs who produce nothing despite all the garment pampering and special certificate to sign tender's e.t.c not everyone worships the output from "the" to the point of demeaning other poor Kenyan doing their work, Maraga is a product of "the" and more stupid than any of those aksaris, the guy is a shame, shame on his university, performance for your output is now becoming a national problem.
The President position is a uniting figurehead position, the end of an election brings closure, certainity and order,we are all suffering including hustlers, this election the CS of Finance says will cost 30billion, this are very uncertain times and RISKY FOR EVERYONE, if the situation deteriorates, gsu may have problems managing all of us, the supreme court has taken the power. These days it seems very few people can understand what you are writing. But As you have said, the President is a uniting figure. I am very sure that he has united these young children. I am sure those that voted for Jubilee were removed from the lineup and let to go home so that the cops could deal with Babu Owino. Oooopps Babu Owino was not even there. My fren, we saw Moi. We know what he did. We know his methods. And he still went home. It's actually strange that I'm comparing the current police tactics to Moi. How strange. And the same answers given for beating up students is the same given now. "Hawana adhabu". Strange stuff I tell you. Do I have to remind you once again as you have been remanded before that you don't understand why people vote. A New Kenya
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Much Know wrote:Babu owino, maraga, mwilu, the stone throwing students, they are all from Nairobi university, whose ptobelm in training people to think is this? Whose failure? Your failures coming back to haunt you. My friend, don't get to orgasmic when you write. I did not see Babu Owino, Maraga or Mwilu in those dorms. Even that stone thrower you are talking about. But goggles are allowed in life. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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People... stop... think! it's not important that you win this debate... so don't engage in it to 'win' it. a 'win' here is as useful as a fart in a hurricane! What I want people to ask themselves is - if the state can act this way when someone in power is insulted. especially because the someone is a sociable and likable fellow. What happens when these powers of the state land in the hands of a really bad person. Kumbuka that there was a Pharaoh who came who 'knew not Joseph' - he used the state to terrorize the descendants of the people who had saved his ancestors. Think of your own worst enemy - For Kikuyus here - think Raila... For Luos think Ruto or something. would you be comfortable? of course not... so instead of engaging in 'who started this by insulting the mother of someone' (a civil affair in my book) - Kikuyus should be asking themselves... do we trust this power that we wield with anyone else? with Raila? if the answer is NO ... start reducing it and putting checks and balances up to a point you don't spend sleepless nights or waking up in horror of a Raila presidency. Raila ataenda... but among our population are bad people who would use this power to hurt you. So stop wasting your time and wasting 'uthamaki' complaining... do something about it so that when it finally gets out of your hands... it cannot be used to hurt you! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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masukuma wrote:People... stop... think! it's not important that you win this debate... so don't engage in it to 'win' it. a 'win' here is as useful as a fart in a hurricane! What I want people to ask themselves is - if the state can act this way when someone in power is insulted. especially because the someone is a sociable and likable fellow. What happens when these powers of the state land in the hands of a really bad person. Kumbuka that there was a Pharaoh who came who 'knew not Joseph' - he used the state to terrorize the descendants of the people who had saved his ancestors. Think you own worst enemy - For Kikuyus here - think Raila... For Luos think Ruto or something. would you be comfortable? of course not... so instead of engaging in 'who started this by insulting the mother of someone' (a civil affair in my book) - Kikuyus should be asking themselves... do we trust this power that we wield with anyone else? with Raila? if the answer is NO ... start reducing it and putting checks and balances up to a point you don't spend sleepless nights or waking up in horror of a Raila presidency. Raila ataenda... but among our population are bad people who would use this power to hurt you. So stop wasting your time and wasting 'uthamaki' complaining... do something about it so that when it finally gets out of your hands... it cannot be used to hurt you! You are too late. Many of those students voted Jubilee. Others never voted. Others voted Nasa. The power, has already started being used on them. We have seen this movie before. We know the ending. It shall not end well for those that push this agenda. Where is Njonjo when you need him to write a book. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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@alma you on 🔥 today.
Apart from freshers like @hardwood's cousin, the other group that was beaten thoroughly are jubilee supporters. They couldn't join the rioting group on mamlaka road so they stayed in campus.
Cops as usual went for the easy target.
Now the "interahamwe" sorry, "twihame" group on wazua have received their briefing to defend the police actions.
I always wonder whether any of you guys pause to listen to yourselves.
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