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Are any Kenyan companies offering this perk?
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Most Kenyans (a majority) are not honest enough to be trusted "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 8/21/2017 Posts: 54
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This is not a perk but a pipe dream...at least for the next decade or two Life is a beach and I'm just playing in the sand
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Mike Ock wrote:Are any Kenyan companies offering this perk?
As an employer I encourage my employees to work away from the office, as long as they deliver.
If they don't exhibit personal accountability i just let them go. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,937
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In the NGO world, some cadre of staff (senior most SMT) are allowed what is called flexi time though are controlled by; (i) long ins and (ii) common shared hours. in Kenya, i have observed this in Swedish (4) and Australia (1) donor agencies. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,321 Location: nairobi
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murchr wrote:Most Kenyans (a majority) are not honest enough to be trusted
Sad but true COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Most Kenyans (a majority) are not honest enough to be trusted
It is not really a matter of being trusted...companies that do it want to cut costs in some way..for instance office space. I have see this work (american company) and usually there is a checklist that ensures nobody slacks around. For instance:
1) The homeworker must prove existence of a quiet work environment in their home..ergo a dedicated room, with a desk, phone and web connected computer with webcam
2) HR creates a precise, measurable workforce program that tracks tasks daily. You receive tasks in the morning and do submissions at regular intervals.
3) IT installs tracking software on your computer, with your consent. This software tracks when you have logged in and can show to an admin at any one time what you are doing on-screen. Some have policies about leaving your home desk unmanned (frequency and duration)
In all, it is beneficial because you avoid the commute. But it would be misleading to think you can look after a baby for instance and be productive in a well controlled home working system without help. Tracking can be strict, it would drive you up the wall or put you on a collision course with the bosses.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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piedpiper wrote:This is not a perk but a pipe dream...at least for the next decade or two
I agree, a piper had dream before it was pied If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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quicksand wrote:murchr wrote:Most Kenyans (a majority) are not honest enough to be trusted
It is not really a matter of being trusted...companies that do it want to cut costs in some way..for instance office space. I have see this work (american company) and usually there is a checklist that ensures nobody slacks around. For instance:
1) The homeworker must prove existence of a quiet work environment in their home..ergo a dedicated room, with a desk, phone and web connected computer with webcam
2) HR creates a precise, measurable workforce program that tracks tasks daily. You receive tasks in the morning and do submissions at regular intervals.
3) IT installs tracking software on your computer, with your consent. This software tracks when you have logged in and can show to an admin at any one time what you are doing on-screen. Some have policies about leaving your home desk unmanned (frequency and duration)
In all, it is beneficial because you avoid the commute. But it would be misleading to think you can look after a baby for instance and be productive in a well controlled home working system without help. Tracking can be strict, it would drive you up the wall or put you on a collision course with the bosses.
I don't know what company you are referring to here but this is not entirely true.
Its all a matter of trust because.
1. The company provides you with a laptop, docking station and monitor(s) to enable you to work.
2. No body has that time to come inspect your home to show that you have "office space" That's just a lie. The management trusts that you have enough space to place your equipment and whatever paper work you may require since you have agreed to WFH.
3. The company provides the equipment(just like the person in the office) and the software too. So your computer has limitations and capabilities to ensure that the work is safe.
4. You do not need webcams(although most laptops have one) Most IT guys will tell you that the webcam is the most dangerous tool to be hacked. Unless your job requires you to be seen(news presenters opinion givers, etc) Skype for business is enough. All meetings/webinars office phone calls can be cast on there.
5. All HR requires from you is that you do not violate the companies policies. No one has the time to "monitor" or watch what you are doing. Heck even the HR personel are working from home. Your time management records are approved by your direct boss.
6. I have not heard of tracking softwares. As is you do not need to be in your house if you are not in the office. You can go visit your friend and still work as long as you are working from the company provided laptop.
7. WFH policy does not mean your work from home entirely, your office space is still available in case you have an in-person meeting with colleagues. You will be moving around with your laptop as you wish. Some companies offer WFH days eg 2 days in a week as a privilege to reduce the commute time by employees.
8. There are "remote employees", who work from home almost entirely due to their nature of the job but these also have office space and usually join the rest when need be.
All you need is a reliable internet provider with WIFI.
Am sure companies like Microsoft, Cocacola, IBM, GE, most multinationals have WFH policies in the west, why not in Kenya?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:quicksand wrote:murchr wrote:Most Kenyans (a majority) are not honest enough to be trusted
It is not really a matter of being trusted...companies that do it want to cut costs in some way..for instance office space. I have see this work (american company) and usually there is a checklist that ensures nobody slacks u uaround. For instance:
1) The homeworker must prove existence of a quiet work environment in their home..ergo a dedicated room, with a desk, phone and web connected computer with webcam
2) HR creates a precise, measurable workforce program that tracks tasks daily. You receive tasks in the morning and do submissions at regular intervals.
3) IT installs tracking software on your computer, with your consent. This software tracks when you have logged in and can show to an admin at any one time what you are doing on-screen. Some have policies about leaving your home desk unmanned (frequency and duration)
In all, it is beneficial because you avoid the commute. But it would be misleading to think you can look after a baby for instance and be productive in a well controlled home working system without help. Tracking can be strict, it would drive you up the wall or put you on a collision course with the bosses.
I don't know what company you are referring to here but this is not entirely true.
Its all a matter of trust because.
1. The company provides you with a laptop, docking station and monitor(s) to enable you to work.
2. No body has that time to come inspect your home to show that you have "office space" That's just a lie. The management trusts that you have enough space to place your equipment and whatever paper work you may require since you have agreed to WFH.
3. The company provides the equipment(just like the person in the office) and the software too. So your computer has limitations and capabilities to ensure that the work is safe.
4. You do not need webcams(although most laptops have one) Most IT guys will tell you that the webcam is the most dangerous tool to be hacked. Unless your job requires you to be seen(news presenters opinion givers, etc) Skype for business is enough. All meetings/webinars office phone calls can be cast on there.
5. All HR requires from you is that you do not violate the companies policies. No one has the time to "monitor" or watch what you are doing. Heck even the HR personel are working from home. Your time management records are approved by your direct boss.
6. I have not heard of tracking softwares. As is you do not need to be in your house if you are not in the office. You can go visit your friend and still work as long as you are working from the company provided laptop.
7. WFH policy does not mean your work from home entirely, your office space is still available in case you have an in-person meeting with colleagues. You will be moving around with your laptop as you wish. Some companies offer WFH days eg 2 days in a week as a privilege to reduce the commute time by employees.
8. There are "remote employees", who work from home almost entirely due to their nature of the job but these also have office space and usually join the rest when need be.
All you need is a reliable internet provider with WIFI.
Am sure companies like Microsoft, Cocacola, IBM, GE, most multinationals have WFH policies in the west, why not in Kenya?
Work from home varies company to company. The local Oracle corp office have it and they have not implemented many of the things I listed there.
I did not pull those from the air. I actually worked on such an initiative with a local company, hence the American company we studied that had done it. I am in IT. The objective was to save money and completely remove trust from the equation. I didn't intend to imply those requirements are universal, but for this particular case they were intended to apply (Kenyans and their predilection to moonlight). Ultimately, it never took off, it was deemed as something the market is not ready for.
I don't know what you have based your assumptions on.
May be it is based on trust after all.
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