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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/4/2008 Posts: 1,289 Location: Nairobi
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I am just asking myself, "Who has exhibited systematic failure in the process?" IEBC or SCOK?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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kimanimsc wrote:muganda wrote:kimanimsc wrote:freiks wrote:Where can i get soft copy of Njoki's dissenting views Njoki Ojwang While at it @kimanimsc, a link to the full majority judgement of the court, please? Wakora Wanne had under 200 pages and one Dissenter had time to compile 400 pages, including a scrutiny of forms and issue an analysis report! "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,907
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FundamentAli wrote:I am just asking myself, "Who has exhibited systematic failure in the process?" IEBC or SCOK? @FundamentAli, fundamentally... without relitigating the case, after a quick read of judgement and Maina Kiai case, IEBC were a bit casual with the importance of process emphasized by role of Form 34A. Generally speaking, it's quite common for young tech savvy chaps to frown on the demands of older folk. Reminds me of Bill Gates' petulance towards the judges in 'US vs Microsoft Corp' that saw Microsoft lose the case and very nearly broken up. How else can you explain stubborn refusal to allow access to the servers, and @masukuma's review of the eventual charade provided?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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muganda wrote:FundamentAli wrote:I am just asking myself, "Who has exhibited systematic failure in the process?" IEBC or SCOK? @FundamentAli, fundamentally... without relitigating the case, after a quick read of judgement and Maina Kiai case, IEBC were a bit casual with the importance of process emphasized by role of Form 34A. Generally speaking, it's quite common for young tech savvy chaps to frown on the demands of older folk. Reminds me of Bill Gates' petulance towards the judges in 'US vs Microsoft Corp' that saw Microsoft lose the case and very nearly broken up. How else can you explain stubborn refusal to allow access to the servers, and @masukuma's review of the eventual charade provided? Except for wanjiku, (who has to clean after both 'giant gold goliaths'), the others have earned their pay check. I care!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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mkenyan wrote:Kusadikika wrote:Did Smoooooooking write a judgement? Where is it? you mean you sat through all that and failed to grasped the simplest of what was said? anyways, the majority had one judgement and the three who read it read from various parts of it. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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muganda wrote:FundamentAli wrote:I am just asking myself, "Who has exhibited systematic failure in the process?" IEBC or SCOK? @FundamentAli, fundamentally... without relitigating the case, after a quick read of judgement and Maina Kiai case, IEBC were a bit casual with the importance of process emphasized by role of Form 34A. Generally speaking, it's quite common for young tech savvy chaps to frown on the demands of older folk. Reminds me of Bill Gates' petulance towards the judges in 'US vs Microsoft Corp' that saw Microsoft lose the case and very nearly broken up. How else can you explain stubborn refusal to allow access to the servers, and @masukuma's review of the eventual charade provided? You cant access Safran's servers by a Kenyan court order. In simple terms Safran is not under Kenya's jurisdiction stop the pedestrian talk this is wazua. http://www.judiciary.go....Report_29.8.2017%201.pdf"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,586
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The judges were emphatic that numbers don't matter, a diss at "tyranny of numbers ", but democracies are simply about MAJORITY RULE, the root and history of democracy must be unknown to this judges, in democratic history, it does not matter whether the majority are white, Kikuyu, republican, democrat, conservative, this theories are not contested in the vote but simply the numbers, improving society and ridding it of biases and etnic tyranny of mumbers is the leaderships problem and hence a political solution, and social one including discussion in wazua e.t.c, education, not a legalistic one, remember it was courts keeping Mandel in jail, Kenyatta in jail, jailing youth for bhangi, detention without trial, enforcing the white only" rule for drinking beer in nairobi, courts are dangerous and can b le extremely stupid e.t.c the ruling is stupid and tribal and removing idiots who use a court in a Democratic country to introduce Communism and warped theories that go against the political and social theory of "majority rule" is ok and they can take an heitus to write about and market their new theory instead of quoting a case from India they don, understand, India is not a real democracy but a hybrid caste system with voting. Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,907
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murchr wrote:muganda wrote:FundamentAli wrote:I am just asking myself, "Who has exhibited systematic failure in the process?" IEBC or SCOK? @FundamentAli, fundamentally... without relitigating the case, after a quick read of judgement and Maina Kiai case, IEBC were a bit casual with the importance of process emphasized by role of Form 34A. Generally speaking, it's quite common for young tech savvy chaps to frown on the demands of older folk. Reminds me of Bill Gates' petulance towards the judges in 'US vs Microsoft Corp' that saw Microsoft lose the case and very nearly broken up. How else can you explain stubborn refusal to allow access to the servers, and @masukuma's review of the eventual charade provided? You cant access Safran's servers by a Kenyan court order. In simple terms Safran is not under Kenya's jurisdiction stop the pedestrian talk this is wazua. http://www.judiciary.go....eport_29.8.2017%201.pdf Only if facts matter - excerpts:Scrutiny report: conclusionsOrder M: ...therefore, the request was not granted Order N: ...this request was not granted Order O: ...this request was not granted Full judgement: clauses[267] ...had the court's order been complied with, it would have unraveled the mysterious puzzle surrounding Form34A. Regretably... only allowed read-only access to this information ... only two hours to the closure of Court proceedings which never fully happened anyway. [277]The report from the Court appointed IT experts... shows clear reluctance on the part of IEBC to fully comply with this Court’s Order ...
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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