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Juojo
#61 Posted : Monday, September 18, 2017 12:36:27 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
12 bob inaweza


Will be achieved next week smile



Are you averaging down?



13.70 waaaaah there is no mercy from Mr. Market.

Big lesson for wanna be TZ investors that the economy looks good on paper in terms of population and GDP growth but is very hostile to foreign businesses. KCB, ARM, KK, Uchumi can bear witness. TZ gov even barred their citizens from investing in Safaricom!


Average down nope, exited at 17-17.5 courtesy of @hisah. Fight another day, lost cash but smilingsmile


Someone here said they are waiting to enter @ 10 bob Think Think . I listened and exited @ 21.
Nakumatt, ARM .... and other family run companies.... It's a wrap
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sparkly
#62 Posted : Monday, September 18, 2017 2:20:07 PM
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This one has shafted people aplenty. Wacha tu.
Life is short. Live passionately.
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the deal
#63 Posted : Monday, September 18, 2017 7:57:20 PM
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Debt fueled growth rarely ends well.
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VituVingiSana
#64 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 2:43:59 PM
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2 cement firms in trouble

http://www.businessdaily...03478-hbpi34/index.html

ARM and ____?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Ericsson
#65 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:02:57 PM
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the deal wrote:
Debt fueled growth rarely ends well.



For safaricom it ended well.
For the likes of ARM the debt fuelled growth was an avenue for the owners to skim the company and cut deals

Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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VituVingiSana
#66 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:36:29 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
the deal wrote:
Debt fueled growth rarely ends well.



For safaricom it ended well.
For the likes of ARM the debt fuelled growth was an avenue for the owners to skim the company and cut deals


I don't think Safaricom, once it reached critical mass, was ever as debt-laden (Debt:Equity or Debt Service:Revenue) as ARM was. Plus it had the support of Vodafone which is a monster when compared to Safaricom or the entire Kenyan economy!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Ericsson
#67 Posted : Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:42:09 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
the deal wrote:
Debt fueled growth rarely ends well.



For safaricom it ended well.
For the likes of ARM the debt fuelled growth was an avenue for the owners to skim the company and cut deals


I don't think Safaricom, once it reached critical mass, was ever as debt-laden (Debt:Equity or Debt Service:Revenue) as ARM was. Plus it had the support of Vodafone which is a monster when compared to Safaricom or the entire Kenyan economy!


ARM was mismanaged.
Safaricom utilised the debt money well.
Vodafone didn't pump money into safaricom.
Safaricom was active in the corporate bond market from the period 2000-2010 when dividend payouts were also low.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Fyatu
#68 Posted : Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:41:59 PM
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Location: Nakuru
tweroff bob has printed. Next stop??
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Angelica _ann
#69 Posted : Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:53:32 PM
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shafting continues ... Sad
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Ericsson
#70 Posted : Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:54:34 PM
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G4S----Gone 4 Sure
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
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