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NASA moves to the Supreme Court
Much Know
#1091 Posted : Sunday, September 17, 2017 5:01:25 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Much Know wrote:
NAShttp://www.nation.co.ke/news/Bo...099678-alsht2/index.htmlA supporters now burning people's property and labelling them thieves thanks to Railas language and support from wakabila judges, Kenya will be taken to the dogs by this lies which FOOLS so rashly believe.


Thieves=These people.

Needless to say, raira enemy no.1, peasant and poor Kikuyu, or "foreigners", next some revenge in naivasha or mathare, as SC pretend to be very clever maintaining tension because they are guarded by Police at their homes and in Mercs.
Ras Kienyeji Man
murchr
#1092 Posted : Sunday, September 17, 2017 5:31:30 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
masukuma wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
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Those who committed fraud and interfered with election process should have thought about this. Actions have consequences. The knew very well what the constitution says about an invalid election.

Or they thought they would get away with it in court? Or what the constitution lines up as possible path of election is just for beautification to them? We are not supposed to go that way, right?

Some of this needs to be called out!!
Who said there was FRAUD or INTERFERENCE? really? show me a quote from the judges that say this.


Surely!!. The ruling is not yet with us yet NASa and it's supporters have gone ahead to condemn individuals for imagined crimes. Simply because Raila said so?....hmmmmmm!



Why is it taking too long to write down that ruling anyway? Maraga is playing part in this unrest.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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limanika
#1093 Posted : Sunday, September 17, 2017 8:35:06 PM
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Joined: 9/21/2011
Posts: 2,032
murchr wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
masukuma wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
[
Those who committed fraud and interfered with election process should have thought about this. Actions have consequences. The knew very well what the constitution says about an invalid election.

Or they thought they would get away with it in court? Or what the constitution lines up as possible path of election is just for beautification to them? We are not supposed to go that way, right?

Some of this needs to be called out!!
Who said there was FRAUD or INTERFERENCE? really? show me a quote from the judges that say this.


Surely!!. The ruling is not yet with us yet NASa and it's supporters have gone ahead to condemn individuals for imagined crimes. Simply because Raila said so?....hmmmmmm!



Why is it taking too long to write down that ruling anyway? Maraga is playing part in this unrest.


They know the ruling will be scrutinized inside out, and if people cant find the master stroke that convinced the jury to invalidate a process which cost billions and involved 15m kenyans, then they are toast. But on positive note, we hope the ruling will expound some pertinent areas to address emerging issues and confusion by nasa e.g. what they meant by fresh elections, what were the actual malpractices..this, not what rao is shouting every day, is what would determine who at IEBC might have to go. Only worry is, who is writing?
kayhara
#1094 Posted : Sunday, September 17, 2017 9:35:29 PM
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This thing is getting out of hand,our good Constitution has checks and balances, what role can the third arm the Parliament do if the executive and the judiciary plus opposition continue to hold the country in limbo?
To Each His Own
Shak
#1095 Posted : Sunday, September 17, 2017 10:25:19 PM
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murchr wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
masukuma wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
[
Those who committed fraud and interfered with election process should have thought about this. Actions have consequences. The knew very well what the constitution says about an invalid election.

Or they thought they would get away with it in court? Or what the constitution lines up as possible path of election is just for beautification to them? We are not supposed to go that way, right?

Some of this needs to be called out!!
Who said there was FRAUD or INTERFERENCE? really? show me a quote from the judges that say this.


Surely!!. The ruling is not yet with us yet NASa and it's supporters have gone ahead to condemn individuals for imagined crimes. Simply because Raila said so?....hmmmmmm!



Why is it taking too long to write down that ruling anyway? Maraga is playing part in this unrest.

Apparently the four judges haven't even met since the ruling. Each is holed up in their own quarters writing their own judgements. Very strange indeed!!
innairobi
#1096 Posted : Monday, September 18, 2017 12:58:55 AM
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Kenya’s presidential election has been overturned. What next?

It was a triumph of the rule of law—but the country is now on edge

IF AT first you don’t succeed, try, try again. That, it seems, is the advice of Kenya’s supreme court to its electoral commission. In a shock decision on September 1st, the court ruled that the presidential election held last month, in which Uhuru Kenyatta, the incumbent, beat Raila Odinga (pictured), an opposition stalwart, was “invalid, null and void”. The vote, it said, had not been conducted in accordance with the constitution—so it must be redone.

As a display of judicial independence, the court’s decision is without precedent, not just in Kenya but across Africa, where it was widely acclaimed. It represents an opportunity—so optimists believe—to build genuine trust in the country’s institutions, especially its highest courts. Yet it also plunges east Africa’s biggest economy back into uncertainty and creates a new risk of violence. Arguments have already erupted over the timing of the new vote, which the electoral commission says it will hold on October 17th. Many Kenyans fear widespread violence is likelier this time around, especially if the result is closer.

The court has not yet published its full verdict. But in a preliminary statement it said it found “no evidence of misconduct” on Mr Kenyatta’s part. Nor did it endorse Mr Odinga’s theory that the electronic system used to record the results was hacked. Rather, the judges seem to have decided that they did not need proof of systematic rigging. That the electoral commission committed “irregularities and illegalities”, particularly in the transmission of results from polling stations to tallying centres, was enough to justify a new vote.

The decision surprised nearly everyone. Even before the election results were declared, James Orengo, a senator and close ally of Mr Odinga, announced that “going to court is not an alternative—we have been there before.” In the previous election, in 2013, when Mr Kenyatta beat Mr Odinga in a contest that most monitors considered flawed, the loser went in vain to court rather than risk a repeat of the violence that had followed the election in 2007, when around 1,400 people were killed. This time, when the National Super Alliance (NASA), Mr Odinga’s group of parties, filed its legal challenge it seemed like a concession to foreign diplomats, who feared more violence.

Courting controversy
Mr Odinga and his allies were jubilant at the decision. NASA declared that a “new Kenya has been born” and claimed vindication for their view that the election had been stolen. Mr Kenyatta called for the decision to be respected in a speech given in English. But in comments to supporters made in Swahili, he denounced the judges as wakora (crooks) and claimed that their decision was the work of “whites” and “homosexuals”. He vowed to “fix” the supreme court if re-elected.
Yet perhaps it should have been less of a surprise than it was. Kenya’s election was certainly far from perfect. A week before polling day, Chris Msando, the main technician in charge of the electronic voter-ID system, was found murdered, his body displaying signs of torture. That created suspicion that things might go awry.

Though polling day itself went smoothly, the transmission of results from polling stations was erratic. The results were supposed to have been recorded on 41,000-odd paper forms, one from each station. Yet the electoral commission failed to make many of the forms readily available to the public or to NASA. That could have been because of incompetence rather than foul play—a view shared by many of the Western monitors, who nonetheless stressed that their endorsement of the election was conditional on further analyses. Either way, the supreme court decided, by a verdict of four to two, that the flaws were serious enough to merit a re-run of the presidential contest. The other five sets of elections, including for members of parliament and for governors, were deemed fair.

Organising a better election will be fraught. The original vote cost some $500m and involved more than 300,000 temporary workers. Now the electoral commission has to repeat it, in a far shorter time, under heavier pressure. After it published its intended date for the new poll, in which only Mr Odinga and Mr Kenyatta would be running (and third-party candidates excluded), NASA accused it of becoming “rogue and unhinged”. The alliance has published a list of demands for the new vote, including suspending six senior officials and hiring a new contractor to print ballot papers. If they are not met, it says it will not take part.

Many Kenyans guess that, in the end, the result will be the same—and that Mr Odinga and his allies will still not accept it. Certainly, thanks to the supreme court’s decision, NASA will have gained momentum. But for all its flaws, it is still not obvious that the election was rigged by anywhere near the margin of nine percentage points that Mr Kenyatta had over Mr Odinga. (Mr Kenyatta’s party easily defeated Mr Odinga’s in the parliamentary election, albeit that the opposition split into separate parties competing against each other.) In a presidential re-run Mr Kenyatta, who is better funded and organised, is still likely to be the favourite, says Nicholas Cheeseman, a specialist in African elections at the University of Birmingham.

Protests after this year’s vote left at least two dozen people dead. But for the most part Kenya has avoided the violence that marred earlier polls. The court’s decision is intended to reinforce that progress by building trust in the country’s institutions and in the fairness of elections. Yet those high hopes could still be dashed to smithereens. The coming months will jangle Kenyan nerves.

https://www.economist.co...country-now-edge-kenyas
All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
murchr
#1097 Posted : Monday, September 18, 2017 2:05:02 AM
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Hii ni nini https://drive.google.com...qMB8UVhwZTc4S0JMTm8/view
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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harrydre
#1098 Posted : Monday, September 18, 2017 6:50:42 AM
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[quote=murchr]Hii ni nini https://drive.google.com...MB8UVhwZTc4S0JMTm8/view[/quote]

Habari ndiyo hiyo. After kasarani, this mess has to be cleaned.
i.am.back!!!!
Njung'e
#1099 Posted : Monday, September 18, 2017 8:23:21 AM
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[quote=murchr]Hii ni nini https://drive.google.com...MB8UVhwZTc4S0JMTm8/view[/quote]

Waaaaa......!!!!!
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Anti_Burglar
#1100 Posted : Monday, September 18, 2017 9:05:33 AM
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Most Kenyans suffer from what is known as DELUSIONS OF GRANDUER... you collectively fail to have a sense of proportion!! I hear many people talk about some of the companies which provided support to the IEBC as if they are one man shows operating in river-road!! Sikizeni... this may come as a shock to you but... Kenya is nothing but a corrupt, poor, 3rd world country!!! No one wants to screw you out of a presidency...infact NO ONE REALLY CARES BUT YOU!! I see people asking about Amazon web services... a company owned by Jeff Bezos... the SECOND RICHEST MAN ON THE PLANET... It hosts so many things... heck even I have web services running off it as well as Azure!! We are like that guy who gets a safcom sim card and as soon as there are some problems - we think Safaricom has teamed up with your neighbor who you have a boundary dispute with to screw you... YOU ARE NOT THAT IMPORTANT!! Safaricom may tell ALL it's customers that they are important (AS A GROUP) but you individually.... sorry... not so important.
on Al Ghurair - well... if ever there was a company that is printing for almost all Election Commissions that I have worked for - thats them! not just ballot papers, OMR forms e.t.c. this is a huge global company... it was not started to screw you and your ballot papers. Mark you IEBC moved from Smith and Ouzman to al ghurair after the noise of the chicken gate scandal. Sikizeni...Al Ghurair printers is part of a 25,000 people strong conglomerate!! The group has done work on Burj Khalifa, Emirates Towers and the Dubai Metro... this is not a small company designed to screw you out of your presidency as NASA!!
SAFRAN/MORPHO/OT-Morpho whatever they call themselves next week is/was part of the french conglomerate that builds aircraft engines!! that group used to produce phones... my first phone was a SAGEM phone.... from the same group!! these are not tu-small one person shops that will screw up their reputations making "algorithms" that prejudice a RAILA presidency...

Sikizeni as I am going to say this ONCE!! you are not that important... you may feel important but that is as far as it goes!! you are dwarves at an international scale. So quickly put this election behind you and move towards doing things that will make you slightly taller.




This has got to be the most self defeating post I have ever had the misfortune of wasting my time to read.

While us, Kenyans, Kenya may be

1. corrupt thanks to the folk in power who can't keep their filthy hands off our public tills,
2. poor yet we boast of having loads of presidents from certain communities
3. 3rd world because we are in Africa

We are important! To ourselves, to our progeny, to our future! No one can and should tell us we are nothing! Who do they think they are? Bloody fwaking! If they think we are nothing they can and should take their everything selves out of our spaces! Just what are they doing here if we are 'not important'? Then they address us as 'you'?

Without us they would not be where they now are, with all their plastic self-righteousness.

That this nonsense comes from a black African, thundering to us that we are nothings, makes it even more astonishing. He should then go, cut off whatever links he has with us, the 'not-important' guys, and scoot off to his ilk in Europe, Arabia and satan-knows-where-else!

Ujinga ipelekwe kwenu!
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