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Gathige
#1081 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 6:12:59 PM
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ngapat wrote:
Justice Maraga has urged Judges and magistrates to ignore legal and procedural technicalities, and determine the electoral disputes on substantive issues. According to Mr Maraga, this was the cause that led to the erosion of public confidence in the Judiciary


@ngapat, the reason why in international lingo us and like-nations are referred to as third world aka failed states, we are grandiose on such terms as democracy, is that we pretend when in real sense we are such backwater states. In our case the SC issues such far reaching pronouncements like invalidating a presidential election and then tells us on live TV that they will give us the reasons in 21 days. In ten minutes they pronounce upon us a cost of 15+ billion because we cannot count and all of us clap and declare we are now the 4th nation to have a presidential election nullified, a record setting in the wrong direction In the meantime, we sadly lose precious girls in a fire and all what the state decides to do is to offset burial costs!

On 17th we again parade ourselves to perpetuate one of two dynasties! and we pay Morpho/Safron, Amazon hosting blalala for our inadequacies.

Elsewhere in Gambia, they used Dominos as ballots and drums and ballot boxes and they have kicked our a dictator
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Bigchick
#1082 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 6:17:08 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Much Know wrote:
If the burukenge judges ordered iebc to do another election because their request on servers could not be satisfied, what will they do now that their other request to hold an elections cannot be satisfied because the system has to be upgraded to meet the their demands for scrutiny? Worse problems will arise.


This is why I fault IEBC!! they did not want to seem incompetent!! Let's face it... those Orders had things that NASA wanted - let me ask... who said those things existed? Each system is different! you may not have those things built in. But since IEBC had outsourced most of this work - they were clueless on whether they had these things or not. it's similar to someone asking you to give designs to the bunker in your house and tests to verify that your house has [insert here some ISO standard for bunkers] and you don't know if you have a bunker and you agree to 'comply' to give them these designs and tests! Not all systems are built the same! You should be the one to state whether something is possible or not! people cannot just google terms and drop them in a document and ask you to produce them and you have the incompetence not to say... SORRY FELLOWS... WRONG NUMBER! OUR SYSTEM DOESN'T HAVE THESE THINGS!! or we never did these things! especially if there was no law or regulation that required you to do so! Who says all systems built have "read only" access? the OS has, major databases have - the application built? its based on whether it was seen to be useful at the time. So it's all on IEBC... they were incompetent and did not want to be seen as such and started playing games.



When all this drama is over and 20B down the drain,Maraga will have lots of egg on his face.

Thankfully Babu will be gone for G I pray.
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AlphDoti
#1083 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 6:59:09 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Much Know wrote:
If the burukenge judges ordered iebc to do another election because their request on servers could not be satisfied, what will they do now that their other request to hold an elections cannot be satisfied because the system has to be upgraded to meet the their demands for scrutiny? Worse problems will arise.


This is why I fault IEBC!! they did not want to seem incompetent!! Let's face it... those Orders had things that NASA wanted - let me ask... who said those things existed? Each system is different! you may not have those things built in. But since IEBC had outsourced most of this work - they were clueless on whether they had these things or not. it's similar to someone asking you to give designs to the bunker in your house and tests to verify that your house has [insert here some ISO standard for bunkers] and you don't know if you have a bunker and you agree to 'comply' to give them these designs and tests! Not all systems are built the same! You should be the one to state whether something is possible or not! people cannot just google terms and drop them in a document and ask you to produce them and you have the incompetence not to say... SORRY FELLOWS... WRONG NUMBER! OUR SYSTEM DOESN'T HAVE THESE THINGS!! or we never did these things! especially if there was no law or regulation that required you to do so! Who says all systems built have "read only" access? the OS has, major databases have - the application built? its based on whether it was seen to be useful at the time. So it's all on IEBC... they were incompetent and did not want to be seen as such and started playing games.

When all this drama is over and 20B down the drain,Maraga will have lots of egg on his face.

Thankfully Babu will be gone for G I pray.

Those who committed fraud and interfered with election process should have thought about this. Actions have consequences. The knew very well what the constitution says about an invalid election.

Or they thought they would get away with it in court? Or what the constitution lines up as possible path of election is just for beautification to them? We are not supposed to go that way, right?
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Jump-steady
#1084 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:07:50 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Most Kenyans suffer from what is known as DELUSIONS OF GRANDUER... you collectively fail to have a sense of proportion!! I hear many people talk about some of the companies which provided support to the IEBC as if they are one man shows operating in river-road!! Sikizeni... this may come as a shock to you but... Kenya is nothing but a corrupt, poor, 3rd world country!!! No one wants to screw you out of a presidency...infact NO ONE REALLY CARES BUT YOU!! I see people asking about Amazon web services... a company owned by Jeff Bezos... the SECOND RICHEST MAN ON THE PLANET... It hosts so many things... heck even I have web services running off it as well as Azure!! We are like that guy who gets a safcom sim card and as soon as there are some problems - we think Safaricom has teamed up with your neighbor who you have a boundary dispute with to screw you... YOU ARE NOT THAT IMPORTANT!! Safaricom may tell ALL it's customers that they are important (AS A GROUP) but you individually.... sorry... not so important.
on Al Ghurair - well... if ever there was a company that is printing for almost all Election Commissions that I have worked for - thats them! not just ballot papers, OMR forms e.t.c. this is a huge global company... it was not started to screw you and your ballot papers. Mark you IEBC moved from Smith and Ouzman to al ghurair after the noise of the chicken gate scandal. Sikizeni...Al Ghurair printers is part of a 25,000 people strong conglomerate!! The group has done work on Burj Khalifa, Emirates Towers and the Dubai Metro... this is not a small company designed to screw you out of your presidency as NASA!!
SAFRAN/MORPHO/OT-Morpho whatever they call themselves next week is/was part of the french conglomerate that builds aircraft engines!! that group used to produce phones... my first phone was a SAGEM phone.... from the same group!! these are not tu-small one person shops that will screw up their reputations making "algorithms" that prejudice a RAILA presidency...

Sikizeni as I am going to say this ONCE!! you are not that important... you may feel important but that is as far as it goes!! you are dwarves at an international scale. So quickly put this election behind you and move towards doing things that will make you slightly taller.


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murchr
#1085 Posted : Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:47:49 AM
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Did this letter reach France?



"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Bigchick
#1086 Posted : Sunday, September 17, 2017 5:49:24 AM
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murchr wrote:
Did this letter reach France?






I doubt!It was more for their supporters. Vitisho tuu za hapa na pale.

If it had reached NASWA would be chest thumping with the acknowledgement copy duly stamped.
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masukuma
#1087 Posted : Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:29:19 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
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Those who committed fraud and interfered with election process should have thought about this. Actions have consequences. The knew very well what the constitution says about an invalid election.

Or they thought they would get away with it in court? Or what the constitution lines up as possible path of election is just for beautification to them? We are not supposed to go that way, right?

Some of this needs to be called out!!
Who said there was FRAUD or INTERFERENCE? really? show me a quote from the judges that say this.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Njung'e
#1088 Posted : Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:39:37 PM
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masukuma wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
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Those who committed fraud and interfered with election process should have thought about this. Actions have consequences. The knew very well what the constitution says about an invalid election.

Or they thought they would get away with it in court? Or what the constitution lines up as possible path of election is just for beautification to them? We are not supposed to go that way, right?

Some of this needs to be called out!!
Who said there was FRAUD or INTERFERENCE? really? show me a quote from the judges that say this.


Surely!!. The ruling is not yet with us yet NASa and it's supporters have gone ahead to condemn individuals for imagined crimes. Simply because Raila said so?....hmmmmmm!
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Much Know
#1089 Posted : Sunday, September 17, 2017 3:57:35 PM
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NAShttp://www.nation.co.ke/news/Bo...099678-alsht2/index.htmlA supporters now burning people's property and labelling them thieves thanks to Railas language and support from wakabila judges, Kenya will be taken to the dogs by this lies which FOOLS so rashly believe.
Ras Kienyeji Man
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kaka2za
#1090 Posted : Sunday, September 17, 2017 4:08:42 PM
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Much Know wrote:
NAShttp://www.nation.co.ke/news/Bo...099678-alsht2/index.htmlA supporters now burning people's property and labelling them thieves thanks to Railas language and support from wakabila judges, Kenya will be taken to the dogs by this lies which FOOLS so rashly believe.


Thieves=These people.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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