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NASA moves to the Supreme Court
Gathige
#1061 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 10:45:02 AM
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kaka2za wrote:
kayhara wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Amores wrote:
kaka2za wrote:

Chebukati's memo alludes that there was a problem with transmission of results.

Pray, why did the SCOK not order a recount??

I heard that there was fear of ballot stuffing


At what point would the stuffing happen? Ballot boxes were sealed and seal numbers recorded by agents.

This time stuffing would not have worked, maybe replacement to tally with announced results which is hectic, but I thought the different formats of the forms 34s was what invalidated the elections, unless, IEBC was unable to explain this, plus some forms transmitted online did not match those presented to NASA, hapa Chiloba alijichanganya, I really think he should consider resignation, Tano tena will have to happen without himsmile ,what is orengo saying about result transmission now


I foresee the same errors recurring again.POs are usually very tired at the end of excercise and it is very easy to make mistakes keying in text results


Elections has become a procurement acsh cow- Ballots printing, equipment , Communication etc and very minimal investment in staff. Clerks are temporary workers with no punishment for misdeeds.
The whole thing should be manual so in case of any issues, tunafungua dede.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
Much Know
#1062 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 11:00:41 AM
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Joined: 12/6/2008
Posts: 3,586
kaka2za wrote:
kayhara wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Amores wrote:
kaka2za wrote:

Chebukati's memo alludes that there was a problem with transmission of results.

Pray, why did the SCOK not order a recount??

I heard that there was fear of ballot stuffing


At what point would the stuffing happen? Ballot boxes were sealed and seal numbers recorded by agents.

This time stuffing would not have worked, maybe replacement to tally with announced results which is hectic, but I thought the different formats of the forms 34s was what invalidated the elections, unless, IEBC was unable to explain this, plus some forms transmitted online did not match those presented to NASA, hapa Chiloba alijichanganya, I really think he should consider resignation, Tano tena will have to happen without himsmile ,what is orengo saying about result transmission now


I foresee the same errors recurring again.POs are usually very tired at the end of excercise and it is very easy to make mistakes keying in text results

Much more chaos, agents refusing to sign, sabotage, and errors because of naswas irreducible minimum of sacking hard workers at iebc like chiloba, definitely an expert, for Railas sake yet again and Kenyans just keeping quite and wasting 14billion. He is immune, can call for violence, frame people at ICC, steal maize oil etc, Thanks to supreme court we are preparing for chaos, even governments have started giving travel advisories, it's no joke, there is a high risk of Kenya disintergrating, talk od seccesion, wazuans abusing each other by tribe, we will end up with a too close to call elections, boycotts, e.t.c when the winner was clear, do we then do another re-run? It's our dear immune raila and cj deciding and not my vote.
Ras Kienyeji Man
Much Know
#1063 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 11:14:15 AM
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If the burukenge judges ordered iebc to do another election because their request on servers could not be satisfied, what will they do now that their other request to hold an elections cannot be satisfied because the system has to be upgraded to meet the their demands for scrutiny? Worse problems will arise.
Ras Kienyeji Man
kaka2za
#1064 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 11:31:36 AM
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16 days later they are still looking for reasons to justify the annulment.

Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
limanika
#1065 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 11:55:35 AM
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kimanimsc wrote:
limanika wrote:
ION, murkomen says they will be comparing the ruling and naswa demands...meanwhile, one prominent naswa lawyer previoysly a permanent feature in all capaign rallies MIA, where could be holed up?


ORENGO TO LEAD 10 LAWYERS IN CHALLENGING GOVERNOR MUTUA’S WIN

The man has been very scarce. Is he the one writing?
innairobi
#1066 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 12:43:16 PM
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EU: Spot Checks Show Confusion, Not Conspiracy in Kenyan Election

NAIROBI — Observers found some technical problems but no evidence of vote-rigging in Kenya's presidential election last month, the European Union said on Thursday, based on random checks of tallies from polling stations.

The finding was announced as Kenya gears up for a re-run of the contest between President Uhuru Kenyatta and challenger Raila Odinga on Oct. 17, after the Supreme Court nullified Kenyatta's victory citing irregularities in the tallying process.

Credible elections would boost Kenya's role as East Africa's richest economy and a stable Western ally in a region roiled by conflict. But problems with the vote could spark unrest: 1,200 people died in violence after a disputed 2007 election.

Bolstering the Supreme Court's findings of technical irregularities, the EU said in a statement it had examined 1,558 randomly selected scanned polling station results forms from 82 constituencies. A small percentage were unreadable, others had mathematical mistakes, and others were missing data or signatures.

BOYCOTT THREAT

Odinga alleged that the original vote was marred by fraud and is threatening to boycott the re-run unless some demands are met, including the resignation of key election board officials.

But the EU said it did not find anything indicating deliberate manipulation of the vote in the forms it examined. "There was little variation in the patterns of anomalies ... and no obvious advantage to one camp or another."

However, the observers noted that more than a quarter of polling stations were severely late in posting their manually completed tallying sheets online. In some cases they only did so after the legal deadline for the opposition to mount court challenges to the results had passed, they noted.

The EU urged the election commission to use standardized forms with security features like serial numbers to reduce the opportunities for confusion in the upcoming polls.

It said the electoral board must do a better job of publicly explaining the processes it would follow in tallying the vote.

In a separate development on Thursday, ruling party lawmaker Ngunjiri Wambugu filed a court petition seeking to have Chief Justice David Maraga removed for gross misconduct in connection with the annulment of the election.

"Chief Justice Maraga needs to be censured, I believe he has participated in gross misconduct, which is unprofessional. I believe that gross misconduct is trying to influence a presidential election," Wambugu told reporters.

https://www.nytimes.com/...a-election.html?mcubz=3
All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
innairobi
#1067 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:15:47 PM
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Joined: 9/2/2010
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Quote:
Audit shows no hacking of Kenya vote system: French firm
By AFP
PUBLISHED: 17:26 BST, 15 September 2017 | UPDATED: 20:01 BST, 15 September 2017


An audit of the electronic system used to tally votes in Kenya's cancelled presidential poll showed no manipulation of data, the French biometrics firm that supplied the system told AFP Friday.

Opposition leader Raila Odinga has accused the company, OT-Morpho, of being complicit in alleged rigging of the election, which was declared null and void by the country's Supreme Court due to "irregularities and illegalities" in the transmission of results.

While the court has yet to deliver its final judgement detailing what went wrong, OT-Morpho said an "in-depth audit" of the system showed the opposition's claims about hacking to be untrue.

In a letter to the French government, Odinga accused OT-Morpho of allowing unauthorised access to its servers and manipulating the transmission of results.

The company's chief operating officer Frederic Beylier told AFP the audit, undertaken with help from external experts from security software companies, had shown the system "in no way suffered manipulation of data, attacks, attempts to penetrate the system or anything of that kind."

OT-Morpho supplied the 45,000 tablets used to identify voters biometrically and an associated system used to transmit the results of votes counted by electoral officials as well as a photograph of the paper form 34A on which votes were tallied.

Delays in the scanning of these forms -- which OT-Morpho put down to lack of 3G coverage in some parts of Kenya -- were among the problems raised by the opposition.

The opposition had also claimed an algorithm was introduced into the system to manipulate the results as they streamed in.

"We obviously checked if there could have been questionable manipulations by any authorised or unauthorised persons and can confirm there was no manipulation of data that could raise questions," said Beylier.

The company said it had transmitted all its logs to the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission, and was willing to participate in another external audit under the IEBC's authority.

In court, the opposition argued that many forms 34A, once received, were unsigned, lacked the requisite security features or contained irregularities.

However without the full ruling from the court, it is unclear to what extent this influenced the outcome of the election.

Incumbent President Uhuru Kenyatta was ascribed 54 percent of the vote before being stripped of his victory.

It also remains unclear whether the results could have been manipulated before being entered into the electronic transmissions system, analysts said.

Beylier slammed a campaign of threats and intimidation against the company and its employees, insisting it had carried out its job in "complete political neutrality".

"Some people are trying to make us the scapegoat of the political situation in Kenya and we don't intend to play that role," he said.

He referred questions on whether the company's systems would be used in fresh elections planned for October 17 to the IEBC.

http://www.dailymail.co....a-vote-French-firm.html
All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
Amores
#1068 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:29:33 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
16 days later they are still looking for reasons to justify the annulment.


The ruling is next Tuesday
It had better by good!
I am happy
Jump-steady
#1069 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:35:20 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 12/1/2008
Posts: 1,098
Gathige wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
kayhara wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Amores wrote:
kaka2za wrote:

Chebukati's memo alludes that there was a problem with transmission of results.

Pray, why did the SCOK not order a recount??

I heard that there was fear of ballot stuffing


At what point would the stuffing happen? Ballot boxes were sealed and seal numbers recorded by agents.

This time stuffing would not have worked, maybe replacement to tally with announced results which is hectic, but I thought the different formats of the forms 34s was what invalidated the elections, unless, IEBC was unable to explain this, plus some forms transmitted online did not match those presented to NASA, hapa Chiloba alijichanganya, I really think he should consider resignation, Tano tena will have to happen without himsmile ,what is orengo saying about result transmission now


I foresee the same errors recurring again.POs are usually very tired at the end of excercise and it is very easy to make mistakes keying in text results


Elections has become a procurement acsh cow- Ballots printing, equipment , Communication etc and very minimal investment in staff. Clerks are temporary workers with no punishment for misdeeds.
The whole thing should be manual so in case of any issues, tunafungua dede.


@Gathige, our elections are manual.

In fact I expected the judge to order a recount from where we put our ballot papers.

As you can expect, not all counties will have a smooth transmission and the court therefore must not nullify the whole election again.

Nimechoka na mambo ya kura!smile
Jump-steady
#1070 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:37:01 PM
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Joined: 12/1/2008
Posts: 1,098
Gathige wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
kayhara wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Amores wrote:
kaka2za wrote:

Chebukati's memo alludes that there was a problem with transmission of results.

Pray, why did the SCOK not order a recount??

I heard that there was fear of ballot stuffing


At what point would the stuffing happen? Ballot boxes were sealed and seal numbers recorded by agents.

This time stuffing would not have worked, maybe replacement to tally with announced results which is hectic, but I thought the different formats of the forms 34s was what invalidated the elections, unless, IEBC was unable to explain this, plus some forms transmitted online did not match those presented to NASA, hapa Chiloba alijichanganya, I really think he should consider resignation, Tano tena will have to happen without himsmile ,what is orengo saying about result transmission now


I foresee the same errors recurring again.POs are usually very tired at the end of excercise and it is very easy to make mistakes keying in text results


Elections has become a procurement acsh cow- Ballots printing, equipment , Communication etc and very minimal investment in staff. Clerks are temporary workers with no punishment for misdeeds.
The whole thing should be manual so in case of any issues, tunafungua dede.


@Gathige, our elections are manual.

In fact I expected the judge to order a recount from where we put our ballot papers.

As you can expect, not all counties will have a smooth transmission and the court therefore must not nullify the whole election again.

Nimechoka na mambo ya kura!smile
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