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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 121 Location: Nairobi
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I am a jubilee supporter myself and I'm surprised with the casual nature with which Jubilee is handling IEBC. The election was annulled because of transmission. IEBC should be told not to go with Electronic transmission at all. Not from the polling station. 10,000 polling stations don't have network at all. This means that 10,000 forms will not be available, or we shall be receiving faulty forms with cows on exercise books. JUBILEE should insist that IEBC sticks to a manual process. Otherwise, their win will be de-legitimized again. On Christ Alone
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Another thread? Really? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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We are casual because we still have our ID's na WEMBE NI ULE ULE Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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I am reading wazua. I am reading twitter jubilee guys. I'm in whatsapp groups. Even the jubilee facebook bloggers. ITS A SIEKEEEE! This is what is called scaring the base. But the issue as KulaRaha asked before, if they trully won, why the siekeee? Hapa kuna kitu. Where is the other thread coz I shall also comment on that one. I have never seen sooooo much fear of an election as what I'm seeing jubilee bloggers doing. This thread is exactly like the one that Pauline Njoroge posted on Facebook. Either watu wanatafuta kazi or maybe just maybe.... ITS A SIEKEE! Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 121 Location: Nairobi
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mpobiz wrote:We are casual because we still have our ID's na WEMBE NI ULE ULE Very true. But Wembe wa IEBC should not be ule ule. Otherwise we'll spend the whole year with the nonsense politics of 1 week breaks, deaths and all manner of evil.  On Christ Alone
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 121 Location: Nairobi
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Baratang wrote:AAAAAAAAAAArrrrrrrrgggggg!!!!!!! Don't be too angry lest you start scratching your back  On Christ Alone
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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nesta wrote:mpobiz wrote:We are casual because we still have our ID's na WEMBE NI ULE ULE Very true. But Wembe wa IEBC should not be ule ule. Otherwise we'll spend the whole year with the nonsense politics of 1 week breaks, deaths and all manner of evil. Oh boy...Now its a war against deaths and evil. May I ask nesta, which is this evil you want us to fight. Some of us are not that educated? It's a SIEKEEEEE WARRR! Raila, IEBC, Maraga! WARRAAAR!!! They hongad the PO's and ROs not to sign!!! We shall come out 99% next time!!!! 20 years from today. Historians shall write about the hysterics in Kenya when it was just an issue of. You go vote. It's counted and you go back to seeing NSE shares tumbling like dominos. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 121 Location: Nairobi
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alma1 wrote:nesta wrote:mpobiz wrote:We are casual because we still have our ID's na WEMBE NI ULE ULE Very true. But Wembe wa IEBC should not be ule ule. Otherwise we'll spend the whole year with the nonsense politics of 1 week breaks, deaths and all manner of evil. Oh boy...Now its a war against deaths and evil. May I ask nesta, which is this evil you want us to fight. Some of us are not that educated? It's a SIEKEEEEE WARRR! Raila, IEBC, Maraga! WARRAAAR!!! They hongad the PO's and ROs not to sign!!! We shall come out 99% next time!!!! 20 years from today. Historians shall write about the hysterics in Kenya when it was just an issue of. You go vote. It's counted and you go back to seeing NSE shares tumbling like dominos. Deaths and evil will come because people are going to cry hacking. But if you are asking me why i wouldn't want IEBC to do what they are doing, its a war against a culture of incompetence. We can't even run a manual process correctly, but we are thinking of electronic VOTING in 2022? Can't you see we are wasting billions of cash on useless things and we are delivering extremely pathetic results? Already, the Nation has reported that the whole thing will cost 10 Billion shillings. 10 Billion in a country that relies on donated cancer machine just to reduce the waiting period to one month. Doesn't this make you angry? We seem to be a country devoid of Nationalism and that's where the problem is. On Christ Alone
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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nesta wrote:alma1 wrote:nesta wrote:mpobiz wrote:We are casual because we still have our ID's na WEMBE NI ULE ULE Very true. But Wembe wa IEBC should not be ule ule. Otherwise we'll spend the whole year with the nonsense politics of 1 week breaks, deaths and all manner of evil. Oh boy...Now its a war against deaths and evil. May I ask nesta, which is this evil you want us to fight. Some of us are not that educated? It's a SIEKEEEEE WARRR! Raila, IEBC, Maraga! WARRAAAR!!! They hongad the PO's and ROs not to sign!!! We shall come out 99% next time!!!! 20 years from today. Historians shall write about the hysterics in Kenya when it was just an issue of. You go vote. It's counted and you go back to seeing NSE shares tumbling like dominos. Deaths and evil will come because people are going to cry hacking. But if you are asking me why i wouldn't want IEBC to do what they are doing, its a war against a culture of incompetence. We can't even run a manual process correctly, but we are thinking of electronic VOTING in 2022? Can't you see we are wasting billions of cash on useless things and we are delivering extremely pathetic results? Already, the Nation has reported that the whole thing will cost 10 Billion shillings. 10 Billion in a country that relies on donated cancer machine just to reduce the waiting period to one month. Doesn't this make you angry? We seem to be a country devoid of Nationalism and that's where the problem is. You are very confused. What does 10 billion mean to the Kenyan political class? Some of this money you ask the people who were catwalking into banks with gunias. Sorry. You voted them in. Don't cry money when this country has thieves in every corner. Stick to your first sentence about people crying about hacking. It happens that they weren't crying, they actually did it. Don't be confused. Stick to one point and work on it. Leo ohhh, no hacking, ohhh raila, ohhh maraga, ohhh IEBC, ohhh Chebukati. Don't bring Uthamakistan as a human issue. That is your own personal problem. Ati Jubilants being casual. What do you want Chebukati to do? Change all the commissioners to Kikuyus from Kiambu county? Leave Kameme narrative on Kameme and Facebook. Here we have Much Know na ametutosha jameni. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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nesta wrote:I am a jubilee supporter myself and I'm surprised with the casual nature with which Jubilee is handling IEBC. The election was annulled because of transmission. IEBC should be told not to go with Electronic transmission at all. Not from the polling station. 10,000 polling stations don't have network at all.
This means that 10,000 forms will not be available, or we shall be receiving faulty forms with cows on exercise books.
JUBILEE should insist that IEBC sticks to a manual process. Otherwise, their win will be de-legitimized again.
Transmission was just a scapegoat. I have no apologies to make if same issues manifest in the new election. By the way some similar 'irregularities' will be manufactured by naswa coz they don't have numbers and in an evil attempt to ensure the fresh election is invalidated again. Its for the jury to up the game as much as iebc
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 121 Location: Nairobi
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alma1 wrote:
You are very confused. What does 10 billion mean to the Kenyan political class? Some of this money you ask the people who were catwalking into banks with gunias. Sorry. You voted them in.
Don't cry money when this country has thieves in every corner.
Stick to your first sentence about people crying about hacking. It happens that they weren't crying, they actually did it.
Don't be confused. Stick to one point and work on it.
Leo ohhh, no hacking, ohhh raila, ohhh maraga, ohhh IEBC, ohhh Chebukati. Don't bring Uthamakistan as a human issue. That is your own personal problem.
Ati Jubilants being casual. What do you want Chebukati to do? Change all the commissioners to Kikuyus from Kiambu county?
Leave Kameme narrative on Kameme and Facebook. Here we have Much Know na ametutosha jameni.
Let's stick to hacking then. There was no evidence of hacking except for NASA fake SQL Logs. But even if there was, it didn't affect the manual forms. And if indeed it affected. Then the more reason why we should resort to physical forms and perfect the MANUAL system instead of running into things that we cannot run and for which we must call an expert from france just to comply with a court order. It would make much more sense to say that media houses be given access to form 34B at the tallying center and they be allowed to do their own national tallies. I am not Kikuyu; so i don't know about the Kameme Narrative On Christ Alone
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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nesta wrote:alma1 wrote:
You are very confused. What does 10 billion mean to the Kenyan political class? Some of this money you ask the people who were catwalking into banks with gunias. Sorry. You voted them in.
Don't cry money when this country has thieves in every corner.
Stick to your first sentence about people crying about hacking. It happens that they weren't crying, they actually did it.
Don't be confused. Stick to one point and work on it.
Leo ohhh, no hacking, ohhh raila, ohhh maraga, ohhh IEBC, ohhh Chebukati. Don't bring Uthamakistan as a human issue. That is your own personal problem.
Ati Jubilants being casual. What do you want Chebukati to do? Change all the commissioners to Kikuyus from Kiambu county?
Leave Kameme narrative on Kameme and Facebook. Here we have Much Know na ametutosha jameni.
Let's stick to hacking then. There was no evidence of hacking except for NASA fake SQL Logs. But even if there was, it didn't affect the manual forms. And if indeed it affected. Then the more reason why we should resort to physical forms and perfect the MANUAL system instead of running into things that we cannot run and for which we must call an expert from france just to comply with a court order. It would make much more sense to say that media houses be given access to form 34B at the tallying center and they be allowed to do their own national tallies. I am not Kikuyu; so i don't know about the Kameme Narrative Please, go use those I'm not a Kyuk narratives as if God shall use that as a mark for you to go to heaven. We are not intrested in your kyukness or otherwise, just what's in between you brain. And trust me, being in Jubilee does not add or remove on the quality of the grey matter. Is it that you were not in Kenya or are just plain lazy to read. The court 4-2 decided that there was enough evidence to show that the IEBC was trying to cheza sheri. Maybe you need a lawyer to translate to you what the whole ruling meant. But please don't get Muite and Ahmenassir, they are still talking about numbers. The system was very clear and to be honest with you, I don't see how hard it is to implement it. Vote. Count. Once counted at the polling station, not form 34B, polling station aka form 34A. Once you count it and have agents sign it. By the way, they can also write that they weren't happy about it. You then send a text message through KIEMS. At the same moment, you send a scanned copy with the KIEMS, results. That is not rocket science unless you are just a fool who is unteachable. Now go ask the hot CEO of IEBC how he never had the forms 4 or 5 days later. Was someone cooking the numbers before they got to the form 34A's? That's what the courts were asking. Because if you follow the system I have outlined in paragraph 3 above, there is no way anyone is going to court. Lakini, wewe kaa hapo na numbers zako. Na manual system hata mlolongo ukitaka. Someone messed up at IEBC. He was caught. What you should be asking is whether the screwing up was intentional. Did someone want Uhuru to get the 70%+1 votes? Or should we believe Njoki Ndungu when she says, that it was not intentional? The truth just like Tupac, is out there. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 121 Location: Nairobi
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alma1 wrote:
Please, go use those I'm not a Kyuk narratives as if God shall use that as a mark for you to go to heaven. We are not intrested in your kyukness or otherwise, just what's in between you brain. And trust me, being in Jubilee does not add or remove on the quality of the grey matter.
You seem to be running around; confused and accusing me of the very things that you are guilty of. You brought the Kikuyu angle by introducing Kameme. You are now running around like a headless chick that has just lost its mother. alma1 wrote:
Is it that you were not in Kenya or are just plain lazy to read.
I'm not lazy; Are you? alma1 wrote:
The court 4-2 decided that there was enough evidence to show that the IEBC was trying to cheza sheri.
Pleading authority. Not useful. alma1 wrote:
Maybe you need a lawyer to translate to you what the whole ruling meant. But please don't get Muite and Ahmenassir, they are still talking about numbers.
The ruling means that we are going for an election. The full judgement will come and we shall know how they arrived at that solution. The heroic Maraga couldn't even write a summary of his logic flow. He is probably working backwards like Pheroze Nowrojee suggested to him. alma1 wrote:
The system was very clear and to be honest with you, I don't see how hard it is to implement it.
Vote. Count. Once counted at the polling station, not form 34B, polling station aka form 34A. Once you count it and have agents sign it. By the way, they can also write that they weren't happy about it. You then send a text message through KIEMS. At the same moment, you send a scanned copy with the KIEMS, results.
That is not rocket science unless you are just a fool who is unteachable.
How many times have you sent the wrong image to a person or heard of someone who did so? How many times have you sent an image with a message and the message has gone but the image not yet because of network problems? And we are here in Nairobi. Why then does it surprise anyone that a person can send an image of an exercise book, or the blank sheet? Someone who has just been trained to use the gadget five days? That a person - who has been involved in 18 hours of continuous work, hungry and tired can't make many such mistakes? 40,000 people? alma1 wrote:
Now go ask the hot CEO of IEBC how he never had the forms 4 or 5 days later.
He told you that there are 10,000 polling stations that don't have network coverage - you wanted him to build a mast himself? I know of a PO who submitted her results and when she went to the tallying center her results had yet to be submitted. This is a recipe for chaos. She had to re-submit. There are countless of such stories. How many times have you had to send an email repeatedly simply because there isn't any network? alma1 wrote:
Was someone cooking the numbers before they got to the form 34A's? That's what the courts were asking. Because if you follow the system I have outlined in paragraph 3 above, there is no way anyone is going to court.
Lakini, wewe kaa hapo na numbers zako. Na manual system hata mlolongo ukitaka.
Someone messed up at IEBC. He was caught.
Why would anyone cook figures and upload them for us to see? PO's were coming from different political affiliations. The agents had their form 34As intact; why didn't we see a single TRUE form 34A that is different from the "FAKE" ones in the system? alma1 wrote:
What you should be asking is whether the screwing up was intentional. Did someone want Uhuru to get the 70%+1 votes? Or should we believe Njoki Ndungu when she says, that it was not intentional?
The truth just like Tupac, is out there.
It is because of these doubting questions that I am saying a manual system would be better. Even better is the IEBC should let media houses pick results directly from the tallying center. On Christ Alone
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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nesta wrote:
It is because of these doubting questions that I am saying a manual system would be better. Even better is the IEBC should let media houses pick results directly from the tallying center.
Washiku must be shocked someone could answer my long diatribes. Let me help you here. Coz it's obvious you can't read. One of the requirements of the Maina Kiai ruling was simple. As soon as the counting was done and documents sent, the results would be PINNED at the polling station. So that your friends the media could read them. Did you see any pinned notice in your polling station? Sema ukweli tu. No one will beat you here. Even that simple thing was never done. So that people could tally in their bedrooms. My friend, that part was a MANUAL system. They didn't even do that. In fact, the opposite happened. That fella from Google, was running around TV telling people that they can't count. It's illegal and such nonsense. You are going round and round in circles. There was nothing wrong with the system that was created by the Maina Kiai court room. If you went ahead and hired a dunderderhead dufus who can't take a scan of a paper and hit send, then that's not my fault. IEBC just hired stupid people. My kids take take a picture with my mobile phone and they are 3 years old. Everything that went wrong was the fault of IEBC. The more you try and pull Maragas here the more I believe that it could have been intentional. No one is going back to mlolongo. Either IEBC knows how to count or they don't. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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alma1 wrote:nesta wrote:
It is because of these doubting questions that I am saying a manual system would be better. Even better is the IEBC should let media houses pick results directly from the tallying center.
Washiku must be shocked someone could answer my long diatribes. Let me help you here. Coz it's obvious you can't read. One of the requirements of the Maina Kiai ruling was simple. As soon as the counting was done and documents sent, the results would be PINNED at the polling station. So that your friends the media could read them. Did you see any pinned notice in your polling station? Sema ukweli tu. No one will beat you here. Even that simple thing was never done. So that people could tally in their bedrooms. My friend, that part was a MANUAL system. They didn't even do that. In fact, the opposite happened. That fella from Google, was running around TV telling people that they can't count. It's illegal and such nonsense. You are going round and round in circles. There was nothing wrong with the system that was created by the Maina Kiai court room. If you went ahead and hired a dunderderhead dufus who can't take a scan of a paper and hit send, then that's not my fault. IEBC just hired stupid people. My kids take take a picture with my mobile phone and they are 3 years old. Everything that went wrong was the fault of IEBC. The more you try and pull Maragas here the more I believe that it could have been intentional. No one is going back to mlolongo. Either IEBC knows how to count or they don't. Eish Alma, calm your titties!! it's never that serious The past is the past, you either run from it or learn from it!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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What did Moses kuria post that's it's causing a lot of noise even in the mainstream media? Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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mpobiz wrote:What did Moses kuria post that's it's causing a lot of noise even in the mainstream media? Nothing much apart from the usual vitriolic and tribal campaign from "Njamba ya ruriri". You know that he would want to circumcise Rao with scissors in the CBD. And we should start hunting the 70K people who voted for the demon in Kiambu. The Githurai chapter of the Mungiki did a test run of the directive yesterday at the round-about. You know blocked road and went hunting for the 70K from vehicle to vehicle. They were forced to take phones and wallets when they couldn't find many of the Rao supporters. Very frustrating. One more thing, the police were there to protect the Mungiki. So no drama. The hunting continues. We shall smoke them out of Kiambu.
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FRM2011 wrote:mpobiz wrote:What did Moses kuria post that's it's causing a lot of noise even in the mainstream media? Nothing much apart from the usual vitriolic and tribal campaign from "Njamba ya ruriri". You know that he would want to circumcise Rao with scissors in the CBD. And we should start hunting the 70K people who voted for the demon in Kiambu. The Githurai chapter of the Mungiki did a test run of the directive yesterday at the round-about. You know blocked road and went hunting for the 70K from vehicle to vehicle. They were forced to take phones and wallets when they couldn't find many of the Rao supporters. Very frustrating. One more thing, the police were there to protect the Mungiki. So no drama. The hunting continues. We shall smoke them out of Kiambu. Because of a man they only see on televishen! Casually reinforcing the cliche of robbers, but so long as the 70k remain street smart, lie low like envelopes and avoid detection all will be well .... I guess.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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FRM2011 wrote:mpobiz wrote:What did Moses kuria post that's it's causing a lot of noise even in the mainstream media? Nothing much apart from the usual vitriolic and tribal campaign from "Njamba ya ruriri". You know that he would want to circumcise Rao with scissors in the CBD. And we should start hunting the 70K people who voted for the demon in Kiambu. The Githurai chapter of the Mungiki did a test run of the directive yesterday at the round-about. You know blocked road and went hunting for the 70K from vehicle to vehicle. They were forced to take phones and wallets when they couldn't find many of the Rao supporters. Very frustrating. One more thing, the police were there to protect the Mungiki. So no drama. The hunting continues. We shall smoke them out of Kiambu. Very unfortunate. Good that Tuju has censured him
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