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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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People say it's good for our country , l doubt! supposing Uhuru loses by a few votes, will he just handover to Raila like moto ya sigara?
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Shak wrote:What doesn't add up from this story is if indeed the forms 34A were forged, shouldn't NASA have presented the authentic forms that were in the hands of their agents to dispute the figures? Petitions have already been filed.Just wait for the hearings. Hii ya SCORK ni shadow.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/4/2008 Posts: 2,849 Location: Rupi
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Lolest! wrote:Quote:Then comes the small issue of decorum. Calling the court wakora and such other names is not in the presidents league. Hizo ni story za Babu Owino. Agreed. He can call them any word in private but as much as they've stolen his victory, he's still President, in charge of an office created by the same katiba that gave Maraga's people their powers Not unless They should stop importing Jameson until kirudiwo. Mpaka alijikuna matako Lord, thank you!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/4/2008 Posts: 2,849 Location: Rupi
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innairobi wrote:sanity wrote:innairobi wrote:Big question is who will run the re-election? NASA will certainly reject Chebukati/Chiloba and will probably demand for the UN to do it.
Either way, I don't see a different result in the re-election and the SCORK may have to make another 'balanced' judgement by contradicting their current ruling. Its gonna be interesting because the Constitution requires IEBC to do the rerun.Thins means NASA may most likely seek an amendment of the constitution....reco stitution of IEBC etc etc all this within 60days..brace yourself for a long rough ride guys Even with a reconstituted IEBC or a UN-led process, there's also the likelihood that NASA will decline to participate in the next election if it becomes apparent that Jubilee is likely to win again with a similar margin. Ultimately, there's a possibility of a nusu mkate government 'for the sake of peace'. THe UN does not have the mandate and capacity to run elections. Lord, thank you!
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/2/2010 Posts: 845
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Euge wrote:innairobi wrote:sanity wrote:innairobi wrote:Big question is who will run the re-election? NASA will certainly reject Chebukati/Chiloba and will probably demand for the UN to do it.
Either way, I don't see a different result in the re-election and the SCORK may have to make another 'balanced' judgement by contradicting their current ruling. Its gonna be interesting because the Constitution requires IEBC to do the rerun.Thins means NASA may most likely seek an amendment of the constitution....reco stitution of IEBC etc etc all this within 60days..brace yourself for a long rough ride guys Even with a reconstituted IEBC or a UN-led process, there's also the likelihood that NASA will decline to participate in the next election if it becomes apparent that Jubilee is likely to win again with a similar margin. Ultimately, there's a possibility of a nusu mkate government 'for the sake of peace'. THe UN does not have the mandate and capacity to run elections. Our constitution doesn't allow it anyway. Even if it was possible, it's a slippery slope. Once the UN or 'international community' starts taking over a country's processes, it is extremely difficult to regain control. Everyone will be demanding that only the UN can solve every petty problem in the country hata wizi ya kuku deep in the village. All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/2/2010 Posts: 845
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na uhuruto wawachane na maraga and the supreme court. these attacks are wrong and unnecessary. it will galvanize their core base but may repel swing votes. neither jubilee nor nasa supporters should entertain denigration of institutions. institutions that seem against your candidate today will be what you'll be banking on to protect your rights sometime in the future. i'm personally very concerned that a progressively weakening opposition is slowly birthing a very dominant party called jubilee that needs to be kept in check by an independent judiciary so they dont ride roughshod over everybody. uhuruto is almost certainly winning the rerun and perhaps with an even wider margin. lakini president kutoa vitisho because someone didn't rule in his favor is dangerous and unacceptable. All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,703
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There is not going to be any UN or International involvement in Kenya's elections. This is because the US is the biggest source of funds for the UN and therefore the biggest driver of the UN agenda. The new US policy is America first. For as long as we do not harbor terrorists we can kanyangana all we want and they will not give a damn. There will not be a Koffi Anan. Listen to what Trump says about Afghanistan. "We are not nation building again, we are not going to tell you how to govern your society."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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IEBC failed Uhuru;they could have done better. Uhuruto strategist failed him;the extra-judicial killings that happened in kisumu and the attempt to silence human rights organisations messed them completely. That is where Kibaki beats these two;strategy. A football match is won by strategy not kicking the ball aimlessly.Real Madrid plays a wonderful game and goals just come by themselves. Uhuruto should play politics just like Real Madrid plays football. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Euge wrote:innairobi wrote:sanity wrote:innairobi wrote:Big question is who will run the re-election? NASA will certainly reject Chebukati/Chiloba and will probably demand for the UN to do it.
Either way, I don't see a different result in the re-election and the SCORK may have to make another 'balanced' judgement by contradicting their current ruling. Its gonna be interesting because the Constitution requires IEBC to do the rerun.Thins means NASA may most likely seek an amendment of the constitution....reco stitution of IEBC etc etc all this within 60days..brace yourself for a long rough ride guys Even with a reconstituted IEBC or a UN-led process, there's also the likelihood that NASA will decline to participate in the next election if it becomes apparent that Jubilee is likely to win again with a similar margin. Ultimately, there's a possibility of a nusu mkate government 'for the sake of peace'. THe UN does not have the mandate and capacity to run elections. Those who know how the UN works must be aware that it has intergrity issues. Anyway I fear for our country.There will be tension and ICC should be on high alert. Kenya may never be the same again. Most lawyers are tax cheats.Expect KRA raids soon. Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Kwani munadhani UN ni yule jamaa wako wa taxi - ameketi mahali amengoja apigiwe simu? Why do people think elections are so simple? IEBC screwed the pooch on this one but you have nothing but the IEBC to execute it! Don't even attempt to make major changes - you will screw things up! U.N... UN wanatoka wapi? Na Pesa ya nani? Do you know how long it takes to recruit people? Ukioa vya elea ujuwe vimeundwa!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/22/2009 Posts: 2,449 Location: Africa
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kaka2za wrote:Euge wrote:innairobi wrote:sanity wrote:innairobi wrote:Big question is who will run the re-election? NASA will certainly reject Chebukati/Chiloba and will probably demand for the UN to do it.
Either way, I don't see a different result in the re-election and the SCORK may have to make another 'balanced' judgement by contradicting their current ruling. Its gonna be interesting because the Constitution requires IEBC to do the rerun.Thins means NASA may most likely seek an amendment of the constitution....reco stitution of IEBC etc etc all this within 60days..brace yourself for a long rough ride guys Even with a reconstituted IEBC or a UN-led process, there's also the likelihood that NASA will decline to participate in the next election if it becomes apparent that Jubilee is likely to win again with a similar margin. Ultimately, there's a possibility of a nusu mkate government 'for the sake of peace'. THe UN does not have the mandate and capacity to run elections. Those who know how the UN works must be aware that it has intergrity issues. Anyway I fear for our country.There will be tension and ICC should be on high alert. Kenya may never be the same again. Most lawyers are tax cheats.Expect KRA raids soon. Right now the environment is highly charged. The kind of talk going on around me is not good at all. Is there light at the end of the tunnel?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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CAF cancels its CHAN tournament inspection tour after the Supreme Court decision that nullified presidential polls results -Carol Radull
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/11/2006 Posts: 884
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kivairu wrote:I asked a question. No o e answered. How does a government that din"t deliver; win with a land slide? There was no economic growth, was there? You need to check the tools and methods you use to measure economic growth “Invest in yourself. Your career is the engine of your wealth.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 6/5/2014 Posts: 47
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Much Know wrote:alma1 wrote:
2. When they were asked by Lady Philomena Mwilu, what happens when you have 5 voting papers and I decide to only have one. The lawyers in court, did not even have a clue to the answer.
This is the MOST STUPID question i heard in the courtroom, if this stupid judges don't read newspapers, there were famous comedians caught with remainder ballot papers stuffed in their pockets, are we frisked when we leave the polling station, how many innocently do this? and to ask a lawyer to do a statistical analysis of 14 million votes is stupidity of the highest order, there are people who go to school to explain distributions, as you were told some will just put the ballots in one box, other will spoil, you cannot do this analysis for amos wakos dunderhead mpango whom he put in supreme court on the spot, hii ni ujinga ya watu hawajasoma vizuri, if this is the basis of the ruling on such an important issue, they should have given a break to consult, jinga court. Genius!!! Where were you when that hapless lawyer, Tom Macharia, was making an ass of himself in court?
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 6/5/2014 Posts: 47
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I'm surprised that he's directing his vitriol at the judges and not IEBC. The latter's refusal to Open the servers robbed him of his "victory"
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Throw back ]
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washiku wrote:Throw back ] Its hypocritical that this statement was not scrutinized as much as Uhuru's comments but anyhow, Jubilee should go back to the voters and remind them why they voted them in, there's no other way. Back to the ballot. FOCUS "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/11/2006 Posts: 884
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The petitioner only managed to cast doubts on the process but could not show how that affected the will of the people. The judges should not have owned those doubts and then go ahead to make a ruling because they doubt the process. Ruling is supposed to be based on facts not doubts. I still need to see how uhuru did not get 8.2m votes or how Raila got more than that “Invest in yourself. Your career is the engine of your wealth.”
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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ngapat wrote:The petitioner only managed to cast doubts on the process but could not show how that affected the will of the people. The judges should not have owned those doubts and then go ahead to make a ruling because they doubt the process. Ruling is supposed to be based on facts not doubts. I still need to see how uhuru did not get 8.2m votes or how Raila got more than that I disagree with the ruling, but accept. I however keep an open mind, so that once the full judgement is out I might just agree with the judges if they demonstrate a well grounded reasoning of their verdict - how real and extensive the problem was. Of course the issue of implications of the ruling is a different matter altogether, Now let me attempt to answer your question from the 4 Judges' perspective; The process by which IEBC conducted the election was contrary to the constitution – they ignored, failed or refused to follow what the constitution demands. Upon so ignoring, they devised and used their own process replete with integrity issues. The result arising thereof is hence lacking in integrity. Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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