@ segemia,

i now believe that you must either be one of the rift valley mpigs or an unhappy rv mpig mole....mcreggae was very right when he said so in your thread 'UDM dani ODM kwisha',remember?

If you read my thread clearly,it did not mention any tribe anywhere...the truth always unmasks and lights even the darkest of the dark....the truth always hurt...the mpigs who are frustrating the ODM are already known and it is not me who planted them there to start with....that is the fact....if you elected them,that is upto you. you had a chance of not voting them in...my advise to you,learn to put up with your political counterparts and not to draw daggers every time you become a loser. so just keep your insults to yourself...

@ Ken k,

don't jump into conclusion before fully understanding or analysing the situation conclusively....to round up my thread,i was only throwing some insights as to why the ODM as a party is actually not politically progressing...it may not be of any help to you but might be to others...again keep your insults to yourself as you owe me none and i owe you none...

@ small guru,

as usual you are up and high on the tribal mediocrity....i thought you should have shed this a long time ago. it appears you and segemia share the same political wraths served by the snob rv mpigs in the ODM...

@ all,

we desperately need parties with solid foundations which should not be shaken whenever some disgruntled elements go haywire.....it is an open secret that ODM has what it takes to achieve this but unless the few rotten elements who are tanishing its image in the political arena are uprooted and thrown away,the party will always remain in shaky grounds with no definite direction....


NEVER TALK OF A RHINO IF THERE IS NO TREE NEAREBY - ZULU PROVERB

We should not treat mau issue as an ODM party affairs,or as a kelinjins tribe affairs,is something which should be dealt with by or pple in this region cos it affect the whole of East africa countries not only kenyan,so stop bringing tribelism and parties politic in mau issue .

invest slowly on a monthly basis dont wait till ati u get millions

@segemia,do u realize how self contradictory u r? 1stly u said insulting ua stupid gods is insulting ua community. Then u shouted that woteva thoz gods do is the will of the pple,since u r very intelligent as a community n voted them in at will. Now u say what those silly gods do shuldnt b xtended to the community. Do u smoke some banned stuff??

The only reason why some people are still alive is coz its illegal to shoot them!!

@ all,

I think we are missing the point here. To my understanding the issue at hand regarding the Mau is how much to compensate those leaving their farms and not a question of wether they should leave or not (that was agreed upon a long time ago). what the RV mpigs are asking for is that the goverment should give a clear compensation plan before the evictions start.

I wish the goverments effort would be directed at finding ways of compensating these guys and the problem is sorted out once and for all. 2012 is fast approaching and the next thing you will see happening is MK and RAO dishing out titles in the Mau and swearing that no one will ever be evicted from the forest. it has happened before


AND THOSE WHO WERE SEEN DANCING WERE THOUGHT TO BE MAD BY THOSE WHO COULD NOT HEAR THE MUSIC

like it or not if we wish to remain as Kenyans we have to remember that we are all brothers and sisters despite what happens. The squatters who have invaded Mau and the leaders politicizing it and making threats are still part of us. So we can't throw out the baby with the bathwater. Same goes for all of the rest of the people we all love to hate. These people are ours. So we have to find a way to reason with them and go forward. It's unfortunate that Kenya seems to be so militarized now. If you don't compensate us,we won't leave and will fight back. We need to avoid a situation where the eviction is done by force and a community feels marginalized. Nowadays people don't request for dialogue but just make demands. Check out the Muslim activists demanding for more representation in TJRC,MPs demanding higher salaries,Kidnappers demanding ransom,ISPs demanding same rates despite a cheaper broadband,SAFCOM demanding that cross switching of phone numbers doesn't happen despite the price advantages to the consumer,police demanding higher bribes etc etc. This country needs to take a serious reality check.

@ simonkabz,

I am not contradicting myself. Kaiganjo's statements were directed towards kalenjins judging by the manner in which it was presented. Why could he/she not name names and then confine his/her urguement and observations on those individuals instead of a generalising sentiments?

@ mcreggae

Don't forget that our leaders led the country for a long time and most of the retrogressive things that are happening today did not happen then,why?


There are two types of people in the world...those who run the risks and those who always have the rope round their necks...

@ segemia,

it appears that the damage done to your brains by the so called 'our leaders' is too extensive and irreparable. you and your leaders have never and will never look beyond beyond what you see.....you and your leaders have never and will never see and understand issues of national importance in more than one dimension....that is why we are reeling under the burden of you and your leader's past atrocities meted out on the innocent citizenry....

i will tell you this segemia,the 'Terror of Tuskan' whether you like it or not a change is coming and it is already late for you to try to stop it....you may go to hell if you and your leaders do not want to taste that change,but since i know you aint going anywhere,you will either put up with the change or go back to rv to herd some goats,and if that turns out to be too much for you,then you and your leaders could scuttle your butts out of the country!!!

@ all,

if the ODM mpigs from other greater devide cannot do away with the rogue rift valley mpigs,is it safe to conclude that ODM is a rift valley outfit?


NEVER TALK OF A RHINO IF THERE IS NO TREE NEAREBY - ZULU PROVERB

@ segemia...........Its unbelievable that we have people like u in this 'our forum'.......A cursory look at your posts is more scaring than the venom from Isaac Ruto(The only consolation is the basic spelling mistakes in your posts)..... Let us all pray for our beloved country Kenya.

WOULD RATHER DIE FIGHTING 4 MY RIGHTS THAN LIVE FOREVER WITHOUT ANY RIGHTS

Spendthrift: your post has really made ma afte,kwanza after enjoying ma lunch..

The chief value of money lies in the fact that one lives in a world in which it is overestimated.

@Kaigangio.

You are losing control,I concur with @Spendthrift,get help bwana. Exorcise whatever issues you have with kenyans who are not of your ethnic background.

Although I suspect you would still chop your ethnic group into sub regions,then clans,then ...........

Just get help


I've noticed the youth in particular coming in to a workplace with a completely outsized notion of their own value and importance... just a thinly-veiled arrogance. May be the credit crunch induced recession is whats needed to remind us all about the value of hard work.... By Anonymous