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Polythene bags ban issues
Obi 1 Kanobi
#31 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 5:35:37 PM
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Have the environmentalists considered the toll that increased usage of paper will have on our forests?

I am all for the environment but I see the problem as more of disposal of plastic waste than use of plastics, so why can't the law address the disposal aspect.
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mobutu123
#32 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 7:34:31 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Have the environmentalists considered the toll that increased usage of paper will have on our forests?

I am all for the environment but I see the problem as more of disposal of plastic waste than use of plastics, so why can't the law address the disposal aspect.

it could be good news/lifeline to Panpaper huko western.
washiku
#33 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 9:06:25 PM
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Kusadikika
#34 Posted : Wednesday, August 30, 2017 10:39:37 PM
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These are the people complaining loudest about the plastic bags ban.



How come only members of the 44th tribe are complaining?

They want Kenya to be like their shags:



And then they will just move to England.

kaka2za
#35 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 4:35:02 AM
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mobutu123 wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Have the environmentalists considered the toll that increased usage of paper will have on our forests?

I am all for the environment but I see the problem as more of disposal of plastic waste than use of plastics, so why can't the law address the disposal aspect.

it could be good news/lifeline to Panpaper huko western.


And the sisal crop too.
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AlphDoti
#36 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:41:49 AM
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kaka2za wrote:
mobutu123 wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Have the environmentalists considered the toll that increased usage of paper will have on our forests?

I am all for the environment but I see the problem as more of disposal of plastic waste than use of plastics, so why can't the law address the disposal aspect.

it could be good news/lifeline to Panpaper huko western.

And the sisal crop too.

Now I know why this ban came at this time... How many tracks of sisal plantations are in Taita Taveta and its environs? I think they gonna benefit lots from this ban.

NOTE: I support the ban despite...
Impunity
#37 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:49:34 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
mobutu123 wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Have the environmentalists considered the toll that increased usage of paper will have on our forests?

I am all for the environment but I see the problem as more of disposal of plastic waste than use of plastics, so why can't the law address the disposal aspect.

it could be good news/lifeline to Panpaper huko western.

And the sisal crop too.

Now I know why this ban came at this time... How many tracks of sisal plantations are in Taita Taveta and its environs? I think they gonna benefit lots from this ban.

NOTE: I support the ban despite...


It's the discipline that we lack...then our lawmakers being dimwits are just there to react,they can't think.

In big European cities like Hamburg,Rotterdam etc juala is used daily but you will not see a plastic paper bag litter flying around.
They carefully manage disposal.
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Lolest!
#38 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:31:16 AM
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@impunity, been checking the countries that have banned plastic bags. Most are third world countries. Most are in Africa with Bangladesh being perhaps the only non African country with a successful total ban.

The Rwanda case is often quoted but they are totally different from us. They are very disciplined, do not trash, don't junp traffic lights even at night. Great people. Here in Kenya, you buy a soda as you drive towards Nakuru, ikiisha you just mannerlessly thrust the plastic bottle out of the car. Itaokotwa na kanjo ya huko Flyover ama Kinungi

I get very disgusted walking behind someone in a clean section of a town where county govt has done nice paving then you see them drop banana peels on the pavement.

We need stronger non-littering, non spitting laws and enforcement
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AlphDoti
#39 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:26:36 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
@impunity, been checking the countries that have banned plastic bags. Most are third world countries. Most are in Africa with Bangladesh being perhaps the only non African country with a successful total ban.

The Rwanda case is often quoted but they are totally different from us. They are very disciplined, do not trash, don't junp traffic lights even at night. Great people. Here in Kenya, you buy a soda as you drive towards Nakuru, ikiisha you just mannerlessly thrust the plastic bottle out of the car. Itaokotwa na kanjo ya huko Flyover ama Kinungi

I get very disgusted walking behind someone in a clean section of a town where county govt has done nice paving then you see them drop banana peels on the pavement.

We need stronger non-littering, non spitting laws and enforcement

This is where I agree with you. You have described my experience completely! The lack of manners exhibited by many people is annoying and frustrating...
kayhara
#40 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:12:26 PM
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Kenyans being kenyans seem to have accepted and moved on, KAM says there is a crisis, which crisis, NEMA should kaa ngumu and actually look into adding water bottles in the ban,also some primary packaging for items like bread,kadogo blueband, sweets, should also go, we frustrated the matatu card, the analogues tv ban worked let the plastic ban also work.
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