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NASA moves to the Supreme Court
washiku
#521 Posted : Monday, August 28, 2017 10:16:39 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
washiku wrote:
Access Granted

Good. Very good


I thought so too. There wont be "They denied us the only proof we had bla bla bla..."
ZZE123
#522 Posted : Monday, August 28, 2017 10:19:05 AM
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Someone wake me up when the final ruling is made… the only thing I wonder is if the court rules we need to repeat the elections, will we do President only or full elections?
The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
Lolest!
#523 Posted : Monday, August 28, 2017 10:22:01 AM
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ZZE123 wrote:
Someone wake me up when the final ruling is made… the only thing I wonder is if the court rules we need to repeat the elections, will we do President only or full elections?

Presidential only
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Museveni
#524 Posted : Monday, August 28, 2017 10:25:00 AM
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Gathige wrote:
gmg wrote:
Restricted access. However no hacker ever leaves audit trail so inakaa hapo wamejinasa.



If i were NASA, i would focus on the Forms 34s forensics and smoke fraud there. Going by the delay by the Judges to deliver this ruling last, looks like they are not really going to delve deep in IT murky waters and wants an easy route. The timelines of 5.00pm tomorrow fr both the IT and Forms verification limits what can be done, and best is to concentrate on forms where it is easier to pick manenos.

Ngatia says he is ready to go straight away, an indication he is lease interested in other matters.

Taking a wild guess here...

Orengo and Co. aren't as clueless as the summations here and on SM look like.

To prove their case all needed are afew pointers for the judges;
- If forms (scanned) were sent after the results were transmitted. Indications by IEBC had been these are transmitted together.
- Are the sent/scanned forms same as the physical ones presented by IEBC to the petitioner and the court too?
- When did the results start coming in to the IEBC systems ?

Not much IT jargon is needed to be spewed for the judges. If there are various discrepancies between the scanned forms and the physical forms that will form a very strong basis for Orengo & Co.

If the petitioners deal with the issues of system integrity they will be dismissed at 5:05pm tomorrow.
Live and learn; and don’t forget, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Caveman
#525 Posted : Monday, August 28, 2017 10:40:13 AM
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Joined: 4/15/2009
Posts: 371
Museveni wrote:
Gathige wrote:
gmg wrote:
Restricted access. However no hacker ever leaves audit trail so inakaa hapo wamejinasa.



If i were NASA, i would focus on the Forms 34s forensics and smoke fraud there. Going by the delay by the Judges to deliver this ruling last, looks like they are not really going to delve deep in IT murky waters and wants an easy route. The timelines of 5.00pm tomorrow fr both the IT and Forms verification limits what can be done, and best is to concentrate on forms where it is easier to pick manenos.

Ngatia says he is ready to go straight away, an indication he is lease interested in other matters.

Taking a wild guess here...

Orengo and Co. aren't as clueless as the summations here and on SM look like.

To prove their case all needed are afew pointers for the judges;
- If forms (scanned) were sent after the results were transmitted. Indications by IEBC had been these are transmitted together.
- Are the sent/scanned forms same as the physical ones presented by IEBC to the petitioner and the court too?
- When did the results start coming in to the IEBC systems ?

Not much IT jargon is needed to be spewed for the judges. If there are various discrepancies between the scanned forms and the physical forms that will form a very strong basis for Orengo & Co.

If the petitioners deal with the issues of system integrity they will be dismissed at 5:05pm tomorrow.

You don't need access to the serve to view the scanned forms. Everyone has access to the scanned forms. They just need to compare these scanned forms with the certified hard copies. If the results arrived to the server before the scanned forms arrive, it is expainable. The scanned form may delay due to availability of good 2G/3G data speeds.
quicksand
#526 Posted : Monday, August 28, 2017 10:44:22 AM
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Joined: 7/5/2010
Posts: 2,061
Location: Nairobi
washiku wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
washiku wrote:
Access Granted

Good. Very good


I thought so too. There wont be "They denied us the only proof we had bla bla bla..."

I wonder if NASA compiled a list of what they want from IEBC ....Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
What on earth will they do with the firewall used to protect KIEMS? Or the operating system, or certified copies of penetration tests?
First, a firewall can be hardware based, software based or both. It would be hilarious to see a techie hand over a rack server to NASA's IT guy for analysis, or some PCIe cards ...or a zip file containing some .exe files, a disc with a copy of Linux.
Sound weird? Cause it is. These items are useless as sources of evidence. They do not contain any data. In the case of software, the files are compiled and executable,...illegible to humans,..the logic there-in can only be accessed by the most hardcore of IT engineers using advanced tools (decompilers/disassemblers)..would take weeks and any explanations would simply be miles over the heads of judges and the general public...assuming there was mischief anyway. I hope this is not NASAs strategy
Comedy!
Only the polling station list, the forms and user account audit trails hold some small hope for the NASA team.
masukuma
#527 Posted : Monday, August 28, 2017 10:46:25 AM
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Location: Nairobi
My assessment is that they are hinging their case on PROCESS or lack of following of PROCESS! they want to gain access to the RTS to show that images of Form 34A were not transmitted together with results. they want to say the results 'data' sent was not from Form 34A.
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wazuaguest
#528 Posted : Monday, August 28, 2017 10:50:59 AM
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Joined: 2/9/2012
Posts: 576
Lolest! wrote:
ZZE123 wrote:
Someone wake me up when the final ruling is made… the only thing I wonder is if the court rules we need to repeat the elections, will we do President only or full elections?

Presidential only


It can open a can of worms,remember there are losers yet to file their petitions.So How the SCOK rules can give ground for their petition

For example if SCOK rules that the Ballot papers failed the required standard eg sucurity wise..The other petioners will use that
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ZZE123
#529 Posted : Monday, August 28, 2017 10:53:14 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/21/2008
Posts: 2,490
wazuaguest wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
ZZE123 wrote:
Someone wake me up when the final ruling is made… the only thing I wonder is if the court rules we need to repeat the elections, will we do President only or full elections?

Presidential only


It can open a can of worms,remember there are losers are yet to file their petitions.So How the SCOK rules can give ground for their petition

For example if SCOK rules that the Ballot papers failed the required standard eg sucurity wise..The other petioners will use that

Personally I think kama kinarudiwa, kirudiwe kyotee!!!
The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
Museveni
#530 Posted : Monday, August 28, 2017 11:00:22 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 8/16/2012
Posts: 661
Caveman wrote:
Museveni wrote:
Gathige wrote:
gmg wrote:
Restricted access. However no hacker ever leaves audit trail so inakaa hapo wamejinasa.



If i were NASA, i would focus on the Forms 34s forensics and smoke fraud there. Going by the delay by the Judges to deliver this ruling last, looks like they are not really going to delve deep in IT murky waters and wants an easy route. The timelines of 5.00pm tomorrow fr both the IT and Forms verification limits what can be done, and best is to concentrate on forms where it is easier to pick manenos.

Ngatia says he is ready to go straight away, an indication he is lease interested in other matters.

Taking a wild guess here...

Orengo and Co. aren't as clueless as the summations here and on SM look like.

To prove their case all needed are afew pointers for the judges;
- If forms (scanned) were sent after the results were transmitted. Indications by IEBC had been these are transmitted together.
- Are the sent/scanned forms same as the physical ones presented by IEBC to the petitioner and the court too?
- When did the results start coming in to the IEBC systems ?

Not much IT jargon is needed to be spewed for the judges. If there are various discrepancies between the scanned forms and the physical forms that will form a very strong basis for Orengo & Co.

If the petitioners deal with the issues of system integrity they will be dismissed at 5:05pm tomorrow.

You don't need access to the serve to view the scanned forms. Everyone has access to the scanned forms. They just need to compare these scanned forms with the certified hard copies. If the results arrived to the server before the scanned forms arrive, it is expainable. The scanned form may delay due to availability of good 2G/3G data speeds.

To view when the forms arrived and when the text arrived you do need the server logs for that. As well as the data that arrived.

If there are any modifications to any data the logs should be sufficient to indicate when modification was done. That should settle the matter as requested. Not holding brief for any of the parties.
Live and learn; and don’t forget, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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