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Polythene bags ban issues
Lolest!
#1 Posted : Saturday, August 26, 2017 1:50:29 PM
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Hayawi hayawi huwa

Monday 28th is the effective date. Should you be found using polythene you face a jail term or upto 4m fine

The kadogo economy will be badly hit. How to sell nyama, githeri, fruits etc will be a big headache for micro enterprises

Meanwhile, manufacturers of biodegradable bags that look exactly like plastic bags suffered a setback after govt said their produts can easily be counterfeited and that it'd be hard for enforcement officers to tell the biodegradable ones from plastic
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#2 Posted : Saturday, August 26, 2017 1:55:38 PM
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#3 Posted : Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:19:20 PM
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How will manufacturers and packers of commodities like Sugar and Rice pack their products?
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
hardwood
#4 Posted : Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:36:03 PM
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Gathige wrote:
How will manufacturers and packers of commodities like Sugar and Rice pack their products?


Like this. The way they pack unga.



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#5 Posted : Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:37:33 PM
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Gathige wrote:
How will manufacturers and packers of commodities like Sugar and Rice pack their products?


If I understand this correctly they are not affected for now. The ban will be phased so right now it is only the ojwala for carrying things home but the packaging is still plastic for individual commodities in the stores.

I completely support this ban and I hope serikali does not relent. Plastics is the biggest polluter. Look at this river in Indonesia:


hardwood
#6 Posted : Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:37:38 PM
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Gathige wrote:
How will manufacturers and packers of commodities like Sugar and Rice pack their products?


I understand that plastic for industrial packaging is allowed.
Lolest!
#7 Posted : Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:14:14 PM
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Gathige wrote:
How will manufacturers and packers of commodities like Sugar and Rice pack their products?

Kitambo, sugar used to be packed in brown paper bags

The problem is packaging of cooked food, meat, fruits
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#8 Posted : Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:21:18 PM
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4yrs or 4M fine is too much though!!
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#9 Posted : Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:28:04 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Hayawi hayawi huwa

Monday 28th is the effective date. Should you be found using polythene you face a jail term or upto 4m fine

The kadogo economy will be badly hit. How to sell nyama, githeri, fruits etc will be a big headache for micro enterprises

Meanwhile, manufacturers of biodegradable bags that look exactly like plastic bags suffered a setback after govt said their produts can easily be counterfeited and that it'd be hard for enforcement officers to tell the biodegradable ones from plastic

The kadogo economy is in too deep when it comes to small polythene bags from milk,soup,sukuma etc Unless a viable affordable substitute is unveiled we are staring at a crisis.
Gathige
#10 Posted : Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:48:45 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
4yrs or 4M fine is too much though!!



They may have to create temporarily jails as the offenders will be too many.
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murchr
#11 Posted : Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:19:34 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Gathige wrote:
How will manufacturers and packers of commodities like Sugar and Rice pack their products?

Kitambo, sugar used to be packed in brown paper bags

The problem is packaging of cooked food, meat, fruits


How do they do it in Rwanda. You cant even get into the country with a plastic bag of any kind

Shopping bag

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Gathige
#12 Posted : Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:54:23 PM
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murchr wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Gathige wrote:
How will manufacturers and packers of commodities like Sugar and Rice pack their products?

Kitambo, sugar used to be packed in brown paper bags

The problem is packaging of cooked food, meat, fruits


How do they do it in Rwanda. You cant even get into the country with a plastic bag of any kind

Shopping bag




Great! Basi Juala iende kabisa. Now designers of Kinodos need to design men friendly ones, not the ones designed to be carried at the back, someting classy like a lug-sack will do to stash a ka-Quarter, Unga Pima etc. Mafutaa taa ndio sijui itabebwa na nini.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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#13 Posted : Saturday, August 26, 2017 6:02:45 PM
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Gathige wrote:
murchr wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Gathige wrote:
How will manufacturers and packers of commodities like Sugar and Rice pack their products?

Kitambo, sugar used to be packed in brown paper bags

The problem is packaging of cooked food, meat, fruits


How do they do it in Rwanda. You cant even get into the country with a plastic bag of any kind

Shopping bag




Great! Basi Juala iende kabisa. Now designers of Kinodos need to design men friendly ones, not the ones designed to be carried at the back, someting classy like a lug-sack will do to stash a ka-Quarter, Unga Pima etc. Mafutaa taa ndio sijui itabebwa na nini.



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#14 Posted : Saturday, August 26, 2017 6:07:34 PM
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#15 Posted : Saturday, August 26, 2017 10:30:02 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Gathige wrote:
How will manufacturers and packers of commodities like Sugar and Rice pack their products?

Kitambo, sugar used to be packed in brown paper bags

The problem is packaging of cooked food, meat, fruits

smile I remember around 1995 at kariuki butchery meat was wrapped in a paper similar to what some chips restaurants pack their kuku, it's brownish, then we have the waxy paper eg the broadways bread, patchment paper, foil you know those they form in to packed takeaways, the paper plates and cups, for liquids we have java cups they are actually paper, so no end to solutions
To Each His Own
Mukiri
#16 Posted : Saturday, August 26, 2017 10:39:47 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Gathige wrote:
How will manufacturers and packers of commodities like Sugar and Rice pack their products?

Kitambo, sugar used to be packed in brown paper bags

The problem is packaging of cooked food, meat, fruits

Not problem! But blessing. Plastic should be nowhere near food

Proverbs 19:21
EngineerLMG
#17 Posted : Saturday, August 26, 2017 10:46:13 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Hayawi hayawi huwa
... manufacturers of biodegradable bags that look exactly like plastic bags suffered a setback after govt said their produts can easily be counterfeited and that it'd be hard for enforcement officers to tell the biodegradable ones from plastic


Link, tafadhali?



Also, I support of the ministry of environment on this matter. It's been a long time coming, and let's not relent.
Lolest!
#18 Posted : Saturday, August 26, 2017 11:01:39 PM
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EngineerLMG wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Hayawi hayawi huwa
... manufacturers of biodegradable bags that look exactly like plastic bags suffered a setback after govt said their produts can easily be counterfeited and that it'd be hard for enforcement officers to tell the biodegradable ones from plastic


Link, tafadhali?



Also, I support of the ministry of environment on this matter. It's been a long time coming, and let's not relent.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...1350-14n7fekz/index.html
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whiteowl
#19 Posted : Sunday, August 27, 2017 8:03:32 AM
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Have we even tried waste management? This is a very lazy mindset.We might as well ban cars to ease traffic jams.
hardwood
#20 Posted : Sunday, August 27, 2017 8:43:33 AM
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Pastoralists have welcomed the plastic ban by NEMA and the Environment ministry noting they incur huge losses when their livestock die after eating the material at dumping sites.

They praised the government on Friday for the regulation that will be official from Monday. The items will no longer be manufactured, imported or used in Kenya.

"We lose millions of shillings annually when our animals die after eating plastics," one said, adding the environment will be protected.




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