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NASA moves to the Supreme Court
Gathige
#321 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 3:12:56 PM
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Shak wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Gathige wrote:
The bile being spewn in Mombasa by Baba and 001 is too much. This will only serve to harden the Jubilee Brigade. We are lucky this is happening in Msa and not in Nbi.



Among the many options at his disposal.

The goon has now launched a National Campaign for Truth and Electoral Justice.#AdvancedSenility.

What will this entail? More rallies?




This is to keep baba rocking the chair for the next 5 years. This time around, rioting will most likely be concentrated at the coast and lakeside as Sonko will not entertain disruptions in Nbi. The National Campaign for Truth and Electoral Justice will then evolve into a party for which he will use as the 2022 vehicle.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
Bree
#322 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 3:42:40 PM
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Nothing new here. MRC was there, did that, failed miserably. Kaput.
Meantime let's enjoy the melodrama
Njung'e
#323 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 4:26:09 PM
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Raila is well aware the petition is going nowhere and so he is off to the next phase. Apart from the other jobless principals and a very bitter Ndii, i will wait to see who else joins him in his new found hobby. Poor man!
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
thuks
#324 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 4:51:58 PM
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Joined: 10/8/2008
Posts: 1,575
Gathige wrote:
Shak wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Gathige wrote:
The bile being spewn in Mombasa by Baba and 001 is too much. This will only serve to harden the Jubilee Brigade. We are lucky this is happening in Msa and not in Nbi.



Among the many options at his disposal.

The goon has now launched a National Campaign for Truth and Electoral Justice.#AdvancedSenility.

What will this entail? More rallies?




This is to keep baba rocking the chair for the next 5 years. This time around, rioting will most likely be concentrated at the coast and lakeside as Sonko will not entertain disruptions in Nbi. The National Campaign for Truth and Electoral Justice will then evolve into a party for which he will use as the 2022 vehicle.

Are you in waysuggesting the mou with the fruity deputy is dead?
I care!
Iganamagana
#325 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 5:04:02 PM
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Joined: 3/27/2009
Posts: 1,437
thuks wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Shak wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Gathige wrote:
The bile being spewn in Mombasa by Baba and 001 is too much. This will only serve to harden the Jubilee Brigade. We are lucky this is happening in Msa and not in Nbi.



Among the many options at his disposal.

The goon has now launched a National Campaign for Truth and Electoral Justice.#AdvancedSenility.

What will this entail? More rallies?




This is to keep baba rocking the chair for the next 5 years. This time around, rioting will most likely be concentrated at the coast and lakeside as Sonko will not entertain disruptions in Nbi. The National Campaign for Truth and Electoral Justice will then evolve into a party for which he will use as the 2022 vehicle.

Are you in waysuggesting the mou with the fruity deputy is dead?


You got it. This will evolve into 2022 coalition.

MOU? Baba will be on the ballot come 2022.
Shak
#326 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 5:31:28 PM
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thuks wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Shak wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Gathige wrote:
The bile being spewn in Mombasa by Baba and 001 is too much. This will only serve to harden the Jubilee Brigade. We are lucky this is happening in Msa and not in Nbi.



Among the many options at his disposal.

The goon has now launched a National Campaign for Truth and Electoral Justice.#AdvancedSenility.

What will this entail? More rallies?




This is to keep baba rocking the chair for the next 5 years. This time around, rioting will most likely be concentrated at the coast and lakeside as Sonko will not entertain disruptions in Nbi. The National Campaign for Truth and Electoral Justice will then evolve into a party for which he will use as the 2022 vehicle.

Are you in waysuggesting the mou with the fruity deputy is dead?

He said it clearly during his interview with Hussein Mohammed that the agreement only holds if he clinches the presidency. From minute 19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8YQXhqiIcI&t=73s
Jump-steady
#327 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 5:36:49 PM
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Joined: 12/1/2008
Posts: 1,098
Iganamagana wrote:
thuks wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Shak wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Gathige wrote:
The bile being spewn in Mombasa by Baba and 001 is too much. This will only serve to harden the Jubilee Brigade. We are lucky this is happening in Msa and not in Nbi.



Among the many options at his disposal.

The goon has now launched a National Campaign for Truth and Electoral Justice.#AdvancedSenility.

What will this entail? More rallies?




This is to keep baba rocking the chair for the next 5 years. This time around, rioting will most likely be concentrated at the coast and lakeside as Sonko will not entertain disruptions in Nbi. The National Campaign for Truth and Electoral Justice will then evolve into a party for which he will use as the 2022 vehicle.

Are you in waysuggesting the mou with the fruity deputy is dead?


You got it. This will evolve into 2022 coalition.

MOU? Baba will be on the ballot come 2022.


Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall

So baba is setting up the other clueless principals for another shot come 2022. Makes senseThink Think Think
washiku
#328 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 5:47:31 PM
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Joined: 5/9/2007
Posts: 13,095
LAUNCH OF CAMPAIGN FOR ELECTORAL JUSTICE IN KENYA
We came to this great city of Mombasa to witness the swearing in of one of our most able leaders H.E Ali Hassan Joho to second term in office as governor.
Join me once again in congratulating him on his re-election and wishing him success in his dreams for the county and our country and to deliver the promise of freedom, justice and plenty to our people.
And it is this subject of freedom and justice that I have called you to this press conference for.
The history of freedom is a history of struggle of the people to have the right to vote; from the poor in feudal Europe, to women across the world, to black people in the United States of America, to religious minorities and of course colonized people all over the world, freedom came with the right to vote.
The vote, freely cast and counted is a powerful weapon for the weak against the powerful.

History also tells us that the powerful never give up power and privilege without a fight.
Seven years ago, we gave ourselves a new Constitution in which we declared that sovereignty belongs to the people.
Not to the Government, not to the President, not to Parliament, not to the Courts but the people. Our sovereignty is individually and collectively expressed by voting for leaders of our choice.
The election we concluded two weeks ago was critical to restoring faith in the vote following two successive stolen elections.

It followed hard fought electoral reforms in which innocent Kenyans shed blood and lost lives.
The Jubilee administration fought tooth and nail to defeat those reforms. And when they could not stop the reforms, they plotted and executed the crudest electoral fraud since the mlolongo elections of 1988.

The only electoral fraud as crude as ours is the recent one in Azerbaijan where the results leaked before polling stations opened. With this election, our fledgling democracy has been subverted into a system now called electoral authoritarianism.
This is the system where dictators give a cloak of democratic respectability by organizing sham elections every four or five years. We are moving from bad to worse.
This time, the computer was set at 54 per cent in favour of the incumbent presidential candidate and other select gubernatorial races across the country. Next time it will set at 70. Few people will bother to vote after that. Thereafter, it will be life presidents elected with 98 percent of the vote.

With that system, our young, efficient and ambitious leaders like Gov. Joho who have expressed a desire to go for the presidency will stand no chance. We cannot let it stand.
We now find ourselves sharply divided between those who want us to accept and move on, and those who are not prepared to live under authoritarianism of any kind.
Dictatorships once established do not reform themselves. We belong in the category of those who refuse to give up our basic rights and civil liberties, the right to speak, to assemble, to protest, to organize, to travel freely in and out of the country, to criticize government without fear or favor, to live as free men and women.
As you are all be aware, we have reconsidered our position not to file a petition with the Supreme Court about the Presidential elections. It is important for Kenyans to understand why we resisted going to court, and why we have reconsidered it.

Elections should end with the counting of votes. The Supreme Court is made up of seven judges. The discretion of seven individuals, however wise, can neither represent nor substitute the voice of 15 million people.
Seven individuals can be intimidated, they can be compromised and they can make genuine mistakes. Kenyans are still trying to understand what exactly happened in the Supreme Court in 2013 when a decision about their votes was delivered in minutes and a paragraph.
Institutionalizing the determination of elections by courts is a deliberate cynical ploy to lend a cloak of legal respectability to fraud, subversion of democracy, and abuse of the court process. If we accept doing it this way, the courts will never allowed to be independent by those who want to rely on them to subvert the will of the people.
We had hoped that other individuals and organizations would move to the courts and at least offer Kenyans a chance to know the truth about what happened to their vote. But soon, it became clear that the Jubilee administration was determined to still all voices and keep Kenyans in the dark about the systematic theft of elections. Jubilee immediately cracked down on brave and independent organizations it merely suspected to be planning to go to court. And so we decided to move to court ourselves to give Kenyans a chance to know the truth.
Whichever way the court rules, the petition will not of itself cure electoral impunity. It will not bring to justice those who plotted and executed the theft of our votes. It will not bring to justice those who murdered Chris Musando in order to steal votes. It will not hold to account those who sought to cow us into submission by unleashing terror in Mathare, Kibera and Kisumu.

Stealing of elections in Kenya is a manifestation of the culture of political impunity.
The perpetrators of 2017 electoral theft were emboldened by the fact that those who stole the 2013 elections have gone unpunished. We saw some of them at the Bomas of Kenya; experts in electoral fraud supervising their second electoral fraud. And they are exporting their expertise to neighbouring countries that have picked up lessons from Kenya since the fraud of 2007.

The only thing that has ever worked against political injustice is people’s power.
Colonial subjugation, one-party dictatorship and the oppressive constitution were not outlawed by the courts. They were overcome by the people’s determined resistance.

And so today, here in Mombasa, we launch a national campaign for truth and electoral justice in Kenya. In this campaign we will affirm our commitment to freedom, the rule of law and democracy.

We will defend our political rights and democratic space. Let the agents of foreign powers exhorting us to accept and move on so that they can continue to have lackeys to do their bidding know that we will not accept inferior governance. We will resist and disobey illegitimate computer generated leaders and we will not relent until the voices of the people as expressed through the ballot are heard and respected. We will exercise our sovereignty and establish the just political order that we have envisioned in the constitution that we have given ourselves.

Then and only then shall the ambitions of our young, restless and ambitious leaders like Ali Hassan Joho, Peter Munya, Isaac Rutto, Amason Kingi, among others, ever have a chance of rising to the top of our political leadership.

God bless you.
Rt. Hon Raila Odinga, EGH
August 22, 2017.
bubethi
#329 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 6:11:46 PM
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washiku wrote:
LAUNCH OF CAMPAIGN FOR ELECTORAL JUSTICE IN KENYA
We came to this great city of Mombasa to witness the swearing in of one of our most able leaders H.E Ali Hassan Joho to second term in office as governor.
Join me once again in congratulating him on his re-election and wishing him success in his dreams for the county and our country and to deliver the promise of freedom, justice and plenty to our people.
And it is this subject of freedom and justice that I have called you to this press conference for.
The history of freedom is a history of struggle of the people to have the right to vote; from the poor in feudal Europe, to women across the world, to black people in the United States of America, to religious minorities and of course colonized people all over the world, freedom came with the right to vote.
The vote, freely cast and counted is a powerful weapon for the weak against the powerful.

History also tells us that the powerful never give up power and privilege without a fight.
Seven years ago, we gave ourselves a new Constitution in which we declared that sovereignty belongs to the people.
Not to the Government, not to the President, not to Parliament, not to the Courts but the people. Our sovereignty is individually and collectively expressed by voting for leaders of our choice.
The election we concluded two weeks ago was critical to restoring faith in the vote following two successive stolen elections.

It followed hard fought electoral reforms in which innocent Kenyans shed blood and lost lives.
The Jubilee administration fought tooth and nail to defeat those reforms. And when they could not stop the reforms, they plotted and executed the crudest electoral fraud since the mlolongo elections of 1988.

The only electoral fraud as crude as ours is the recent one in Azerbaijan where the results leaked before polling stations opened. With this election, our fledgling democracy has been subverted into a system now called electoral authoritarianism.
This is the system where dictators give a cloak of democratic respectability by organizing sham elections every four or five years. We are moving from bad to worse.
This time, the computer was set at 54 per cent in favour of the incumbent presidential candidate and other select gubernatorial races across the country. Next time it will set at 70. Few people will bother to vote after that. Thereafter, it will be life presidents elected with 98 percent of the vote.

With that system, our young, efficient and ambitious leaders like Gov. Joho who have expressed a desire to go for the presidency will stand no chance. We cannot let it stand.
We now find ourselves sharply divided between those who want us to accept and move on, and those who are not prepared to live under authoritarianism of any kind.
Dictatorships once established do not reform themselves. We belong in the category of those who refuse to give up our basic rights and civil liberties, the right to speak, to assemble, to protest, to organize, to travel freely in and out of the country, to criticize government without fear or favor, to live as free men and women.
As you are all be aware, we have reconsidered our position not to file a petition with the Supreme Court about the Presidential elections. It is important for Kenyans to understand why we resisted going to court, and why we have reconsidered it.

Elections should end with the counting of votes. The Supreme Court is made up of seven judges. The discretion of seven individuals, however wise, can neither represent nor substitute the voice of 15 million people.
Seven individuals can be intimidated, they can be compromised and they can make genuine mistakes. Kenyans are still trying to understand what exactly happened in the Supreme Court in 2013 when a decision about their votes was delivered in minutes and a paragraph.
Institutionalizing the determination of elections by courts is a deliberate cynical ploy to lend a cloak of legal respectability to fraud, subversion of democracy, and abuse of the court process. If we accept doing it this way, the courts will never allowed to be independent by those who want to rely on them to subvert the will of the people.
We had hoped that other individuals and organizations would move to the courts and at least offer Kenyans a chance to know the truth about what happened to their vote. But soon, it became clear that the Jubilee administration was determined to still all voices and keep Kenyans in the dark about the systematic theft of elections. Jubilee immediately cracked down on brave and independent organizations it merely suspected to be planning to go to court. And so we decided to move to court ourselves to give Kenyans a chance to know the truth.
Whichever way the court rules, the petition will not of itself cure electoral impunity. It will not bring to justice those who plotted and executed the theft of our votes. It will not bring to justice those who murdered Chris Musando in order to steal votes. It will not hold to account those who sought to cow us into submission by unleashing terror in Mathare, Kibera and Kisumu.

Stealing of elections in Kenya is a manifestation of the culture of political impunity.
The perpetrators of 2017 electoral theft were emboldened by the fact that those who stole the 2013 elections have gone unpunished. We saw some of them at the Bomas of Kenya; experts in electoral fraud supervising their second electoral fraud. And they are exporting their expertise to neighbouring countries that have picked up lessons from Kenya since the fraud of 2007.

The only thing that has ever worked against political injustice is people’s power.
Colonial subjugation, one-party dictatorship and the oppressive constitution were not outlawed by the courts. They were overcome by the people’s determined resistance.

And so today, here in Mombasa, we launch a national campaign for truth and electoral justice in Kenya. In this campaign we will affirm our commitment to freedom, the rule of law and democracy.

We will defend our political rights and democratic space. Let the agents of foreign powers exhorting us to accept and move on so that they can continue to have lackeys to do their bidding know that we will not accept inferior governance. We will resist and disobey illegitimate computer generated leaders and we will not relent until the voices of the people as expressed through the ballot are heard and respected. We will exercise our sovereignty and establish the just political order that we have envisioned in the constitution that we have given ourselves.

Then and only then shall the ambitions of our young, restless and ambitious leaders like Ali Hassan Joho, Peter Munya, Isaac Rutto, Amason Kingi, among others, ever have a chance of rising to the top of our political leadership.

God bless you.
Rt. Hon Raila Odinga, EGH
August 22, 2017.




murchr
#330 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 7:01:29 PM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hardwood
#331 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 7:08:34 PM
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NASA "threatens" the supreme court.

http://www.the-star.co.k...la-tells-maraga_c1621233
Much Know
#332 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 7:20:43 PM
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[quote=hardwood]NASA "threatens" the supreme court.

http://www.the-star.co.k...a-tells-maraga_c1621233[/quote]
When Supreme Court pulls out the odomos file, they will see everything written there by great lawyers and previous judges on his "childish "behavior", i remember he was proven the common denominator in all Kenya's problems. And his lawyer was a 'very intelligent girl' in an over-sized gown and mkoloni wig who got all A's and just one F at "the", at least she received the poor sycophants 'funds'. It was pure comedy and ended 5-0. What will change? Utoto na uinga, waste of time. Wait for the mpesa paybill, nothing else here! This buffoon has just made things harder for other African countries like Congo e.t.c to accept democracy, but because of ukabila!
Ras Kienyeji Man
bubethi
#333 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 8:25:33 PM
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hardwood
#334 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 8:30:39 PM
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Much Know wrote:
hardwood wrote:
NASA "threatens" the supreme court.

http://www.the-star.co.k...a-tells-maraga_c1621233

When Supreme Court pulls out the odomos file, they will see everything written there by great lawyers and previous judges on his "childish "behavior", i remember he was proven the common denominator in all Kenya's problems. And his lawyer was a 'very intelligent girl' in an over-sized gown and mkoloni wig who got all A's and just one F at "the", at least she received the poor sycophants 'funds'. It was pure comedy and ended 5-0. What will change? Utoto na uinga, waste of time. Wait for the mpesa paybill, nothing else here! This buffoon has just made things harder for other African countries like Congo e.t.c to accept democracy, but because of ukabila!


Surely when you take a case to court how do you start lecturing the judges? That is impunity of the highest order. They should all be put behind bars for contempt of court.
Lolest!
#335 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 9:19:33 PM
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Ndii on NTV...
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Lolest!
#336 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 9:44:42 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Ndii on NTV...

He just dumped baba on the '54% was applied to governor posts' taleLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

After being confronted with actuals from Lamu, Garissa, Kajiado, Macha and Nrb he backed down from defending mzee
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Kusadikika
#337 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 10:00:46 PM
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Lawyers and judges huwa wanatubeba kama wajinga. NASA delivers 9,000 pages and then IEBC responds with 54,000 pages. Without saying it they expect Kenyans to believe that in 14 days the 7 judges will have read the 63,000 pages of documents as well as listened to all the lawyers before arriving at a decision. The judgement has already been written, nobody is going to pretend to read 63,000 pages of anything.

I think the late Tuiyot was a more honest corrupt man. He never used to pretend that he could only arrive at a decision after hearing a case. He was famous for meeting people on a Saturday or Sunday when the case was to be heard the following week and if the terms were agreeable he would tell you when to bring your case and what the judgement would be. He would say, "leta yeye Jumatatu, mimi tafunga yeye" or if you were approaching him about an appeal "kuja kesho, nitafuta hiyo kesi."
thuks
#338 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 10:07:13 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
Lawyers and judges huwa wanatubeba kama wajinga. NASA delivers 9,000 pages and then IEBC responds with 54,000 pages. Without saying it they expect Kenyans to believe that in 14 days the 7 judges will have read the 63,000 pages of documents as well as listened to all the lawyers before arriving at a decision. The judgement has already been written, nobody is going to pretend to read 63,000 pages of anything.

I think the late Tuiyot was a more honest corrupt man. He never used to pretend that he could only arrive at a decision after hearing a case. He was famous for meeting people on a Saturday or Sunday when the case was to be heard the following week and if the terms were agreeable he would tell you when to bring your case and what the judgement would be. He would say, "leta yeye Jumatatu, mimi tafunga yeye" or if you were approaching him about an appeal "kuja kesho, nitafuta hiyo kesi."

Ongesa ya lais hapo Laughing out loudly
I care!
murchr
#339 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 10:13:03 PM
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When is the first day of court?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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shocks
#340 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 10:23:25 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
Raila is well aware the petition is going nowhere and so he is off to the next phase. Apart from the other jobless principals and a very bitter Ndii, i will wait to see who else joins him in his new found hobby. Poor man!

There is governors who are now jobless with millions to burn, if any of the 4 principals pull back, they will be swiftly replace by one such guy from the region
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