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Pesa Nane
#21 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 6:57:47 PM
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sparkly wrote:
@Pesa nane please post the balance sheet. Will be intetesting to see the level of loans


Scanty in details...


Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
sparkly
#22 Posted : Monday, August 21, 2017 6:45:42 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
sparkly wrote:
@Pesa nane please post the balance sheet. Will be intetesting to see the level of loans


Scanty in details...




@Pesa nane thanks. I can see they borrowed 1.8B in long term funds, used 0.7B to finance assets/ renovations, 0.4B to plug operations gaps and are holding on to 0.7B.

My observations from the scanty BS... Financial situation is precarious and just from a top level look, they will be offering a rights issue within 2 years.
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VituVingiSana
#23 Posted : Monday, August 21, 2017 10:33:13 AM
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Location: Nairobi
The expansion would have necessitated the increase in debt but the debt load isn't onerous vs the potential benefits. Of course, a PEV like 2007-8 [seems the 2017 results will be fought in court and not in the streets] or a GFC [Global Financial Crisis] or some other event [terrorist attack] can disrupt their business.

@Sparkly - Aga Khan firms [DTB, TPSEA] are known for Rights Issues as they expand. TPSEA has Jubilee as a shareholder and can always tap into the larger AKFED network to cover any shortfall from "other" investors.

Whereas one cannot ascertain the operating future, the past has been a good indicator of the Management's strength and weaknesses. I believe TPSEA should judiciously pick up more properties, at a fair price, in other African countries from AKFED using shares as currency. There is Serena Kigali, Serena Polana (Maputo), etc.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#24 Posted : Monday, August 21, 2017 1:18:03 PM
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Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
The expansion would have necessitated the increase in debt but the debt load isn't onerous vs the potential benefits. Of course, a PEV like 2007-8 [seems the 2017 results will be fought in court and not in the streets] or a GFC [Global Financial Crisis] or some other event [terrorist attack] can disrupt their business.

@Sparkly - Aga Khan firms [DTB, TPSEA] are known for Rights Issues as they expand. TPSEA has Jubilee as a shareholder and can always tap into the larger AKFED network to cover any shortfall from "other" investors.

Whereas one cannot ascertain the operating future, the past has been a good indicator of the Management's strength and weaknesses. I believe TPSEA should judiciously pick up more properties, at a fair price, in other African countries from AKFED using shares as currency. There is Serena Kigali, Serena Polana (Maputo), etc.

One should read this if interested in TPSEA http://www.businessdaily...64776-lirkn4z/index.html

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Ericsson
#25 Posted : Monday, August 21, 2017 1:33:24 PM
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obiero wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]The expansion would have necessitated the increase in debt but the debt load isn't onerous vs the potential benefits. Of course, a PEV like 2007-8 [seems the 2017 results will be fought in court and not in the streets] or a GFC [Global Financial Crisis] or some other event [terrorist attack] can disrupt their business.

@Sparkly - Aga Khan firms [DTB, TPSEA] are known for Rights Issues as they expand. TPSEA has Jubilee as a shareholder and can always tap into the larger AKFED network to cover any shortfall from "other" investors.

Whereas one cannot ascertain the operating future, the past has been a good indicator of the Management's strength and weaknesses. I believe TPSEA should judiciously pick up more properties, at a fair price, in other African countries from AKFED using shares as currency. There is Serena Kigali, Serena Polana (Maputo), etc.

One should read this if interested in TPSEA http://www.businessdaily...4776-lirkn4z/index.html[/quote]


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sparkly
#26 Posted : Monday, August 21, 2017 2:39:35 PM
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Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]The expansion would have necessitated the increase in debt but the debt load isn't onerous vs the potential benefits. Of course, a PEV like 2007-8 [seems the 2017 results will be fought in court and not in the streets] or a GFC [Global Financial Crisis] or some other event [terrorist attack] can disrupt their business.

@Sparkly - Aga Khan firms [DTB, TPSEA] are known for Rights Issues as they expand. TPSEA has Jubilee as a shareholder and can always tap into the larger AKFED network to cover any shortfall from "other" investors.

Whereas one cannot ascertain the operating future, the past has been a good indicator of the Management's strength and weaknesses. I believe TPSEA should judiciously pick up more properties, at a fair price, in other African countries from AKFED using shares as currency. There is Serena Kigali, Serena Polana (Maputo), etc.

One should read this if interested in TPSEA http://www.businessdaily...4776-lirkn4z/index.html[/quote]


woiii kwisha hao.


TPS is reducing exposure to Kenya by going into Tanzania, Uganda, Rwanda, Mozambique and Burundi. Kenya has the lowest margins at 6% while Uganda and Rwanda are as high as 12%.

Nevertheless is is impressive that TPS is able to return a profit with average occupancy of 40% (see the FY 2016 Financials).

The only blot is the spike in debts in 1H2017 which i hope is lower priced than the 23% corporate bond, now retired.
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wa P
#27 Posted : Monday, August 21, 2017 8:02:23 PM
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Location: Nairobi
Airbnb is a fat elephant in the room here
murchr
#28 Posted : Monday, August 21, 2017 8:04:10 PM
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wa P wrote:
Airbnb is a fat elephant in the room here


I have waited for someone to say this. Right on point. As long as they do not render Airbnb irrelevant then the results will keep stinking.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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obiero
#29 Posted : Monday, August 21, 2017 8:06:11 PM
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Location: nairobi
murchr wrote:
wa P wrote:
Airbnb is a fat elephant in the room here


I have waited for someone to say this. Right on point. As long as they do not render Airbnb irrelevant then the results will keep stinking.

And there is no way that Airbnb shall be irrelevant when you see what is happening in the estates bordering JKIA. Plus the two men have allowed two hotels right inside JKIA plus Hilton Garden Inn right at the exit of JKIA.. TPSEA should better adopt to changing times

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VituVingiSana
#30 Posted : Monday, August 21, 2017 11:48:39 PM
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Location: Nairobi
TPSEA has only one "city hotel" in Nairobi i.e. Nairobi Serena so the fortunes of the entire group including multiple lodges doesn't depend on Nairobi Serena. That said, there is competition and Serena needs to look at lower cost options that provide a good hotel without "frills" for business folk.

These budget hotels have no need for a pool, maisha club, etc but put in a decent restaurant, nightclub, conferencing facilities and a business center.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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