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NASA moves to the Supreme Court
thuks
#221 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 7:16:45 AM
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http://www.nation.co.ke/...3996-vcykn4z/index.html
[Quote] The team, which was coordinated by Mr Odinga’s legal adviser Paul Mwangi, also had to contend with infiltration from suspected intelligence officers as well as defections that saw three key lawyers “disappear” on Friday and fail to append their signatures to the final document, forcing the opposition coalition to look for replacements to sign the document barely four hours to the Friday midnight deadline.[quote]
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2012
#222 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:54:27 AM
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Spikes wrote:
2012 wrote:
If IEBC have good lawyers, which I'm sure they do as they are funded by tax payers then this is an easy case. Worst scenario is we go back to the debe and Uhuru will win with a larger margin because I know his strongholds will come out strongly while NASA strongholds of Coast, Western, Kisii & Nairobi will experience very low turn-out as they've already filled the other positions that matter to them. I can bet on this. Going back to the debe is something NASA should avoid at all costs.


A big fallacy! How do you know Uhuru strongholds have not filled seats that matter to them?



The seat that matter to his stronghold is the one he on. There is a reason UK is least bothered by this circus. For me, I really hope they call for a repeat election for the presidency (and hope conducted by the Vatican). I can assure you UK will win by over 60% of cast votes. If you just look at the voter registrations after 2013, the tyranny is even much harder to beat. That will be the first time baba concedes and hopefully retires.

BBI will solve it
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radio
#223 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:06:20 AM
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Spikes wrote:
washiku wrote:


Nonsense. Hii Kenya watu wamesoma more than this idiot for copy and paste in favour of his tribal lines . The writer of this trash is a lunatic who doesn't understand elementary math properly.


Saddens me. What became of us that facts don't matter...
quicksand
#224 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:13:11 AM
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Flo-ology wrote:
murchr wrote:
Affidavit says 8th.

1. Kiems compromised
2. Tallying riddled with major procedural flaws
3. IEBC concerted with cabinet secretaries to influence results
4. Contracted OTS MOPHOS France, cloud services that were compromised


Re: item 4. Do we have any Kenyan law which prohibits hosting election management or tallying system out of the country? I checked the RTS and IEBC website are hosted by Amazon. If there is no law then I see nothing wrong.


You can have different parts of a system hosted in different places. The web reporting can be hosted by Amazon while accessing a database (and the system that populates the database) that is hosted locally. All you need is a vpn pipe from Amazon to the database instance in Nairobi...alternatively, webservices running off an application server in Nairobi accessed by Amazon will have a similar effect. Most data laws govern the physical location of data, but do not care from where it is accessed.
I suspect the architecture is one of the two scenarios I have highlighted therefore, it is unlikely that any data law has been violated and secondly, we do not have laws governing location of data (I stand corrected here). This particular item in the petition is just a waste on paper space, ink and the time that will be spent debunking it.
urstill1
#225 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:39:57 AM
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Given that this is a petition against the presidential election and not run-off (Austrian 2016 case), does that mean that if it goes through, the other candidates, plus new ones, will be eligible to run? If so, can this end up to a rerun in case no candidate gets 50%+1 vote?
Njung'e
#226 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:54:09 AM
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Spikes wrote:
washiku wrote:


Nonsense. Hii Kenya watu wamesoma more than this idiot for copy and paste in favour of his tribal lines . The writer of this trash is a lunatic who doesn't understand elementary math properly.


That can't be trash unless you prove it wrong and you know you can't do that by calling names. Let's hear your logical and mathematical explanation. Convince as please with figures lest we conclude you are the idiot in this instance.
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kaka2za
#227 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 11:27:52 AM
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Njung'e wrote:
Spikes wrote:
washiku wrote:


Nonsense. Hii Kenya watu wamesoma more than this idiot for copy and paste in favour of his tribal lines . The writer of this trash is a lunatic who doesn't understand elementary math properly.


That can't be trash unless you prove it wrong and you know you can't do that by calling names. Let's hear your logical and mathematical explanation. Convince as please with figures lest we conclude you are the idiot in this instance.


True.An academic argument requires an academic counter argument not knee jerk emotional insults.

One thing I know, a randomly selected sample should be a fair representation of the population.
Truth forever on the scaffold
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Spikes
#228 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 11:42:17 AM
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kaka2za wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
Spikes wrote:
washiku wrote:


Nonsense. Hii Kenya watu wamesoma more than this idiot for copy and paste in favour of his tribal lines . The writer of this trash is a lunatic who doesn't understand elementary math properly.


That can't be trash unless you prove it wrong and you know you can't do that by calling names. Let's hear your logical and mathematical explanation. Convince as please with figures lest we conclude you are the idiot in this instance.


True.An academic argument requires an academic counter argument not knee jerk emotional insults.

One thing I know, a randomly selected sample should be a fair representation of the population.


Logic demands that you can not use a broom as a cooking stick. It's an abuse to the cleaning instrument if applied so to prepare a meal and the converse is true...Coming to your argument on random distribution. ....yes in some instances it holds water but with elections chances of it happening with a constant range between Uhuru and Raila difference of percentages of votes (10-11%) is almost nil. During the release of results we expected at some point severally to see skewed distribution which was unnoticeable throughout the exercise raising eyebrows to the credibility of 8/8/2017....If random distribution is used to explain how Uhuru won and Raila lost then I would smartly conclude the just ended elections were a sham and the electronic transmission of results was premeditated ...
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
kaka2za
#229 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:12:15 PM
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Spikes wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
Spikes wrote:
washiku wrote:


Nonsense. Hii Kenya watu wamesoma more than this idiot for copy and paste in favour of his tribal lines . The writer of this trash is a lunatic who doesn't understand elementary math properly.


That can't be trash unless you prove it wrong and you know you can't do that by calling names. Let's hear your logical and mathematical explanation. Convince as please with figures lest we conclude you are the idiot in this instance.


True.An academic argument requires an academic counter argument not knee jerk emotional insults.

One thing I know, a randomly selected sample should be a fair representation of the population.


Logic demands that you can not use a broom as a cooking stick. It's an abuse to the cleaning instrument if applied so to prepare a meal and the converse is true...Coming to your argument on random distribution. ....yes in some instances it holds water but with elections chances of it happening with a constant range between Uhuru and Raila difference of percentages of votes (10-11%) is almost nil. During the release of results we expected at some point severally to see skewed distribution which was unnoticeable throughout the exercise raising eyebrows to the credibility of 8/8/2017....If random distribution is used to explain how Uhuru won and Raila lost then I would smartly conclude the just ended elections were a sham and the electronic transmission of results was premeditated early...


The transmission theory is NASA's though they have avoided the issue in the petition.

I know even NASA lawyers know that the only results that matter are the 34Bs filled and declared by ROs that were based on 34As that were physically presented by POs.
The rest is just entertainment.
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Wrong forever on the throne
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Gathige
#230 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:18:00 PM
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2012 wrote:
Spikes wrote:
2012 wrote:
If IEBC have good lawyers, which I'm sure they do as they are funded by tax payers then this is an easy case. Worst scenario is we go back to the debe and Uhuru will win with a larger margin because I know his strongholds will come out strongly while NASA strongholds of Coast, Western, Kisii & Nairobi will experience very low turn-out as they've already filled the other positions that matter to them. I can bet on this. Going back to the debe is something NASA should avoid at all costs.


A big fallacy! How do you know Uhuru strongholds have not filled seats that matter to them?



The seat that matter to his stronghold is the one he on. There is a reason UK is least bothered by this circus. For me, I really hope they call for a repeat election for the presidency (and hope conducted by the Vatican). I can assure you UK will win by over 60% of cast votes. If you just look at the voter registrations after 2013, the tyranny is even much harder to beat. That will be the first time baba concedes and hopefully retires.


Baba is not conceding any time soon. He has asked the SC to redeem itself by declaring him president,. This is plan B as plan a is the people's court, which according to him he won with 8.2 million votes before the alogoritm changed the results.

"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
Ngalaka
#231 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:23:01 PM
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Chaka wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
Uhuru: 385649 votes (59.61%)

Raila: 256582 votes (39.66%)

I will take note when the numbers for both surpass the 3M mark..

murchr wrote:

Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
kaka2za
#232 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:32:16 PM
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Four lawyers abandoned Baba at the last minute!

I hope none will develop cold feet at the supreme court.
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Njung'e
#233 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:47:06 PM
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Spikes wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
[quote=Njung'e][quote=Spikes][quote=washiku]



Logic demands that you can not use a broom as a cooking stick. It's an abuse to the cleaning instrument if applied so to prepare a meal and the converse is true...Coming to your argument on random distribution. ....yes in some instances it holds water but with elections chances of it happening with a constant range between Uhuru and Raila difference of percentages of votes (10-11%) is almost nil. During the release of results we expected at some point severally to see skewed distribution which was unnoticeable throughout the exercise raising eyebrows to the credibility of 8/8/2017....If random distribution is used to explain how Uhuru won and Raila lost then I would smartly conclude the just ended elections were a sham and the electronic transmission of results was premeditated ...


You haven't said anything son and if only you could leave out brooms and cooking sticks in this games of numbers. Actually, what i want to read from you is how the constant 11% started and why/how it ended where it is at current ( The unfortunate bit about this is that nobody is telling that at the beginning, the % went as high as 13 and has finally settled at 9.23%)....as an example, kindly show as what it would take to move Raila's votes from 43% to 44% once Uhuru's tally crossed 3 million votes. Do it in the simplest way so that even those who went for Math classes on Sundaysmile , can also understand (This is very important.Keep in mind that each reporting stream had a maximum of 700 voers/votes).
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Rahatupu
#234 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 1:27:28 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
Spikes wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
[quote=Njung'e][quote=Spikes][quote=washiku]



Logic demands that you can not use a broom as a cooking stick. It's an abuse to the cleaning instrument if applied so to prepare a meal and the converse is true...Coming to your argument on random distribution. ....yes in some instances it holds water but with elections chances of it happening with a constant range between Uhuru and Raila difference of percentages of votes (10-11%) is almost nil. During the release of results we expected at some point severally to see skewed distribution which was unnoticeable throughout the exercise raising eyebrows to the credibility of 8/8/2017....If random distribution is used to explain how Uhuru won and Raila lost then I would smartly conclude the just ended elections were a sham and the electronic transmission of results was premeditated ...


You haven't said anything son and if only you could leave out brooms and cooking sticks in this games of numbers. Actually, what i want to read from you is how the constant 11% started and why/how it ended where it is at current ( The unfortunate bit about this is that nobody is telling that at the beginning, the % went as high as 13 and has finally settled at 9.23%)....as an example, kindly show as what it would take to move Raila's votes from 43% to 44% once Uhuru's tally crossed 3 million votes. Do it in the simplest way so that even those who went for Math classes on Sundaysmile , can also understand (This is very important.Keep in mind that each reporting stream had a maximum of 700 voers/votes).


Guka,add the fact that the streaming was perfectly randomn without "waiting for strongholds" nonsense.
kaka2za
#235 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 1:51:06 PM
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If you want to be a good liar :
1.Be consistent
2.Be confident
3.Deny any contradiction

NASA have failed on all three.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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gk
#236 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 2:03:03 PM
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Spikes wrote:
washiku wrote:


Nonsense. Hii Kenya watu wamesoma more than this idiot for copy and paste in favour of his tribal lines . The writer of this trash is a lunatic who doesn't understand elementary math properly.


Waa....boss,that hate is pathological and you've got a serious problem with your faculties!!
Spikes
#237 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 2:23:54 PM
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gk wrote:
Spikes wrote:
washiku wrote:


Nonsense. Hii Kenya watu wamesoma more than this idiot for copy and paste in favour of his tribal lines . The writer of this trash is a lunatic who doesn't understand elementary math properly.


Waa....boss,that hate is pathological and you've got a serious problem with your faculties!!


I don't hate anybody from mt. Kenya. Hii ni siasa tu ...Most of folks from the said region are my friends.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Rahatupu
#238 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 2:31:59 PM
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Spikes wrote:
gk wrote:
Spikes wrote:
washiku wrote:


Nonsense. Hii Kenya watu wamesoma more than this idiot for copy and paste in favour of his tribal lines . The writer of this trash is a lunatic who doesn't understand elementary math properly.



Waa....boss,that hate is pathological and you've got a serious problem with your faculties!!


I don't hate anybody from mt. Kenya. Hii ni siasa tu ...Most of folks from the said region are my friends.


Busted! Exposed! Who asked about your friends?
Spikes
#239 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 2:43:39 PM
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Rahatupu wrote:
Spikes wrote:
gk wrote:
Spikes wrote:
washiku wrote:


Nonsense. Hii Kenya watu wamesoma more than this idiot for copy and paste in favour of his tribal lines . The writer of this trash is a lunatic who doesn't understand elementary math properly.



Waa....boss,that hate is pathological and you've got a serious problem with your faculties!!


I don't hate anybody from mt. Kenya. Hii ni siasa tu ...Most of folks from the said region are my friends.


Busted! Exposed! Who asked about your friends?


I was vindicating myself! @#$
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
kaka2za
#240 Posted : Sunday, August 20, 2017 2:46:44 PM
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Spikes wrote:
gk wrote:
Spikes wrote:
washiku wrote:


Nonsense. Hii Kenya watu wamesoma more than this idiot for copy and paste in favour of his tribal lines . The writer of this trash is a lunatic who doesn't understand elementary math properly.


Waa....boss,that hate is pathological and you've got a serious problem with your faculties!!


I don't hate anybody from mt. Kenya. Hii ni siasa tu ...Most of folks from the said region are my friends.


Who said all Mt.Kenyans are pro-jubilee?
Check the results of Kandeng'wa polling station in Kikuyu constituency.
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