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NASA moves to the Supreme Court
Wakanyugi
#71 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:45:33 PM
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tycho wrote:
@Wakanyugi, all can only be well if we act responsibly as per our rights as humans.

Raila leads a pseudo resistance. His work is to distract from true resistance. The good thing about this story is that all parties involved have shown their true colors.

Let all go back to their jobs in peace (peace being measured by the success of resistance).

At least we have some closure.


I hope there will be closure for you, although I really doubt it.

In fact the lack of closure in situations like this is good in that it pushes us always to search for 'better' - never mind that this destination 'better' is unlikely to ever be reached.

For me I prefer to view this mess from a perspective of 10,000 feet up, not eyeball to eyeball, being the only method I have found to break the lock of illusion that such dramas as this one tends to generate.

For instance:

(i) RAO's blinding ego is a major handicap for a leader, but the consequences of his likely humiliation again is that we stop deifying him. He's just human

(ii) Similarly the current deification of Uhuruto, especially by their supporters, the high expectations raised by reckless promises, will lead to bitter disappointment in Kenyans and very soon.

This is all good if it leads us to appreciate that our leaders are not miracle workers. We are responsible for the reality we create and while blaming someone else for our pain may feel good, it amounts to merely postponing the inevitable.


"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Bigchick
#72 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:45:34 PM
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Also waiting.

Been around Supreme Court area since 9.00am and have not seen or heard any commotion given that he has to tag along his goons for the filling.
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Wakanyugi
#73 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:53:12 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Given Baba's past performance, his attention to details etc, he will lose.


Also the 2013 Presidential petition created a precedence that will be quoted in this one. Which essentially raised the bar on the complainant so high that it is unlikely to be met.

Essentially to get the court to overturn the election, NASA not only have to prove that the process was flawed, but that such flaws could have affected the final result of the ENTIRE six elections, not just Presidential.

It will be easier to get 100 of their MP's to resign that to meet such a high threshold of proof, IMHO.
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Bigchick
#74 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:00:29 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Given Baba's past performance, his attention to details etc, he will lose.


Also the 2013 Presidential petition created a precedence that will be quoted in this one. Which essentially raised the bar on the complainant so high that it is unlikely to be met.

Essentially to get the court to overturn the election, NASA not only have to prove that the process was flawed, but that such flaws could have affected the final result of the ENTIRE six elections, not just Presidential.

It will be easier to get 100 of their MP's to resign that to meet such a high threshold of proof, IMHO.



The 6 pillars of the case in todays daily are not inspiring.

Kwanza number 6.......Ati the system was hacked after Msandos death yet on 9th they had a whole log of hacking details perpetuated on 8th from 12.00noon.How come now its a week earlier when Msando was killed?

Fake polling stations...which ones.I thought IEBC published all the 40833 polling stations for our scrutiny before elections.When did NASA notice there are some fake ones??



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Ngalaka
#75 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:03:31 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Given Baba's past performance, his attention to details etc, he will lose.

Summon some courage and say the truth!
Raila will not lose the case because of lack of attention to detail, but because he lost the election fairly and convincingly.

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hardwood
#76 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:22:59 PM
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Kenya may have had its fairest election yet. So says the respected Washington Post newspaper. And it tells baba to stop his nonsense.

https://www.washingtonpo...p;utm_term=.40878deda442
Gathige
#77 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:26:20 PM
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The challenge with Baba is getting the credible evidence he needs at the SC. If he provides statements and documents like what he provided at the first press conference with that IT guy, then the case becomes dead on arrival. Issues like algorithms, display of unsubstantiated results on the screen, illegal polling stations, un-gazetted returning officers all look credible but when put on test at the SC might crumble like the proverbial pie.

Great harvest time for lawyers though!

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Angelica _ann
#78 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:31:46 PM
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murchr wrote:
Has the petition been filed?

Relax, they (wed'oh! )have until Saturday to do so smile
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Iganamagana
#79 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:53:39 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
Has the petition been filed?

Relax, they (wed'oh! )have until Saturday to do so smile


Taking ownership of the situation?
KulaRaha
#80 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 3:31:24 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Given Baba's past performance, his attention to details etc, he will lose.

Summon some courage and say the truth!
Raila will not lose the case because of lack of attention to detail, but because he lost the election fairly and convincingly.



This is Kenya, who knows the truth?

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