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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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if a court can declare the elections null based on a few errors as being purported, that will mean uhuru will continue being president for a very long time, all that is needed after a re-election is just to make sure 20 votes or so zimepotea and pap another re-election.
is there a max number of re-election the sc can call for
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/1/2008 Posts: 1,098
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Njung'e wrote:Taking their bravado and bony chests to the court  "Us moving to court is a second chance to the Supreme Court to do the right thing. Our going to the court gives the Supreme Court a second chance to redeem itself" NASA seem to be going to court halfheartedly. There is also a veiled intimidation directed towards the court. I hope they have concrete evidence to back the rigging claim or else they suffer another set back.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Iganamagana wrote:Bigchick wrote:harrydre wrote:How many days does baba have to move to court for dispute? 3 including today. But court is not an option for him as per Orengo. DO NOT count on it! How could you be so right. As Mutahi Nyinyi said, RAO has lied to us, again.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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washiku wrote:Iganamagana wrote:Bigchick wrote:harrydre wrote:How many days does baba have to move to court for dispute? 3 including today. But court is not an option for him as per Orengo. DO NOT count on it! How could you be so right. As Mutahi Nyinyi said, RAO has lied to us, again. Why do you take every nonsense uttered by Mutahi Ngunyi seriously? John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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I'm very disappointed with today's presser. It was an anticlimax. I was expecting at the very least all NASA elected Governors, MPs, Senators, Women Reps and MCAs to denounce their win from the sham election and burn the IEBC certificates issued to them on live tv. Anyway, may be I have an overactive imagination.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Ngalaka wrote:The optics of authorities raiding civil society bodies is not good for a government that flaunts democratic credentials.
On the other hand I understand the concern that they are doing the dirty work for NASA, including the widely shared rumour that some of them could be moving to supreme court in proxy for NASA to challenge the presidential elections outcome as declared by IEBC.
My take is that the Govt ought to find a better way to deal with that concern.
It is counterproductive to appear to be persecuting these guys.
Separately, as a Country we should have in place stringent requirements for filing cases with the supreme court challenging presidential election results - e.g deposit Ksh 10m with the court refundable if you win the case.
This would weed out busy bodies in it for nuisance factor.  
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,718
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What if????? What if the courts find there were major irregularities?
What happens then?
Would they order a recount of the already cast votes or would they order a new election?
Would there have to be another election or can the parties organize a Nusu Mkate government to avoid one?
Would the same IEBC that delivered a flawed election be allowed to conduct a new one or would we have to start by forming a new IEBC?
What kind of turnout would we expect from a new election?
There would be MPs, Governors and MCAs in office majority of whom are Jubilee. What are NASA's chances of winning a second election?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Kusadikika wrote:What if????? What if the courts find there were major irregularities?
What happens then?
Would they order a recount of the already cast votes or would they order a new election?
Would there have to be another election or can the parties organize a Nusu Mkate government to avoid one?
Would the same IEBC that delivered a flawed election be allowed to conduct a new one or would we have to start by forming having a new IEBC?
What kind of turnout would we expect from a new election?
There would be MPs, Governors and MCAs in office majority of whom are Jubilee. What are NASA's chances of winning a second election? If Nasa wins petition, the presidential election will be repeated in 60 days. It will be open to anyone to vie. You can even vie! The repeat election will be worse for RAO. Nasa was overconfident and convinced their supporters they were winning. With majority of the lower seats going to Jubilee, we're likely to witness voter apathy except in Railaphobic areas It could end up at 55% Uhuru
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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"hackers" were like that last week All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/27/2009 Posts: 1,437
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washiku wrote:Iganamagana wrote:Bigchick wrote:harrydre wrote:How many days does baba have to move to court for dispute? 3 including today. But court is not an option for him as per Orengo. DO NOT count on it! How could you be so right. As Mutahi Nyinyi said, RAO has lied to us, again. You should know these people by now. They know they won't get what they want but want to prolong the state of anxiety and milk any resultant political scores. To Baba, publicity any day. What with the promises of BIG ANNOUNCEMENTS that always turn still born?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/27/2009 Posts: 1,437
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2012 wrote:I'm very disappointed with today's presser. It was an anticlimax.
I was expecting at the very least all NASA elected Governors, MPs, Senators, Women Reps and MCAs to denounce their win from the sham election and burn the IEBC certificates issued to them on live tv.
Anyway, may be I have an overactive imagination. You pinned it!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Iganamagana wrote:2012 wrote:I'm very disappointed with today's presser. It was an anticlimax.
I was expecting at the very least all NASA elected Governors, MPs, Senators, Women Reps and MCAs to denounce their win from the sham election and burn the IEBC certificates issued to them on live tv.
Anyway, may be I have an overactive imagination. You pinned it! Yes, I agree. Either that or I forgot they are Kenyans. As their leader is fighting for our stolen voice which has been stilled for the third time in a row, 001 and other diehard followers are busy scrambling for certificates for a fake election. At least Senator Orengo should have rejected his win as the chief NASA election agent.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,635
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Kusadikika wrote:What if????? What if the courts find there were major irregularities?
What happens then?
Would they order a recount of the already cast votes or would they order a new election?
Would there have to be another election or can the parties organize a Nusu Mkate government to avoid one?
Would the same IEBC that delivered a flawed election be allowed to conduct a new one or would we have to start by forming a new IEBC?
What kind of turnout would we expect from a new election?
There would be MPs, Governors and MCAs in office majority of whom are Jubilee. What are NASA's chances of winning a second election? Me I think the constitution has painted everyone, including the Supreme court, into a corner. The law requires a decision on a presidential petition be made in 14 days. Calling for a recount, or even an audit would probably require more than 14 days. Which court would supervise it? I think this can not be a remedy. It is either validation of results or total rejection with an order to repeat the election. The kind of strange hemming and hawing we saw with Al Githurai and presidential ballots can not be an option here. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311
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ODM proposes to replace Wilson Sossion with Isaac Rutto as nominated MP. Rutto to be the Minority leader in the National Assembly.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/9/2008 Posts: 2,824
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Liv wrote:ODM proposes to replace Wilson Sossion with Isaac Rutto as nominated MP. Rutto to be the Minority leader in the National Assembly. Aren't the possible party nominee lists provided in advance? I know someone who was vying and his name is in the chap chap list for nomination, the his wife's too. When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/9/2009 Posts: 2,003
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Liv wrote:ODM proposes to replace Wilson Sossion with Isaac Rutto as nominated MP. Rutto to be the Minority leader in the National Assembly. And what becomes of Sossion?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311
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kingfisher wrote:Liv wrote:ODM proposes to replace Wilson Sossion with Isaac Rutto as nominated MP. Rutto to be the Minority leader in the National Assembly. Aren't the possible party nominee lists provided in advance? I know someone who was vying and his name is in the chap chap list for nomination, the his wife's too. I guess they are writing to IEBC to request them to make the changes. Sossion could be requested to withdraw.... I am not sure what the law says about such changes.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,929
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kingfisher wrote:Liv wrote:ODM proposes to replace Wilson Sossion with Isaac Rutto as nominated MP. Rutto to be the Minority leader in the National Assembly. Aren't the possible party nominee lists provided in advance? I know someone who was vying and his name is in the chap chap list for nomination, the his wife's too. Fafanua  that Democratic in ODM should be done away with  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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radio wrote:Liv wrote:ODM proposes to replace Wilson Sossion with Isaac Rutto as nominated MP. Rutto to be the Minority leader in the National Assembly. And what becomes of Sossion? Who cares!He can go jump in the lake.He has caused a lot of misery to teachers through his n strikes that would yield zero. Kumbe all along he was pursuing his personal interest. Unfortunately his replacement is another character I would not have wanted to see coming close to leadership.Let him join the Tyranny of liars in the cold. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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