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hardwood
#1441 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 10:57:23 AM
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Lolest! wrote:

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Everyone pays taxes. Why not these NGOs?
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hardwood
#1442 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 11:09:24 AM
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Also why are these NGOs being involved in political wars?

http://www.the-star.co.k...-civil-society_c1617387

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NASA has ruled out challenging the presidential results in court but sources intimidated it would use proxies, especially anti-Jubilee right groups. They could petition the Supreme Court to overturn the IEBC declaration of Uhuru as President-elect.

KHRC is chaired by Professor Makau Mutua, a leading Jubilee critic who has said for the second time he would not recognise Uhuru's disputed victory. He said the same after the 2013 polls.

Africog entered the limelight in 2013 when alongside Cord, it petitioned the election of President Kenyatta.
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#1443 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 11:51:57 AM
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The optics of authorities raiding civil society bodies is not good for a government that flaunts democratic credentials.

On the other hand I understand the concern that they are doing the dirty work for NASA, including the widely shared rumour that some of them could be moving to supreme court in proxy for NASA to challenge the presidential elections outcome as declared by IEBC.

My take is that the Govt ought to find a better way to deal with that concern.
It is counterproductive to appear to be persecuting these guys.

Separately, as a Country we should have in place stringent requirements for filing cases with the supreme court challenging presidential election results - e.g deposit Ksh 10m with the court refundable if you win the case.

This would weed out busy bodies in it for nuisance factor.
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#1444 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:02:49 PM
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hardwood
#1445 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:07:28 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:
The optics of authorities raiding civil society bodies is not good for a government that flaunts democratic credentials.

On the other hand I understand the concern that they are doing the dirty work for NASA, including the widely shared rumour that some of them could be moving to supreme court in proxy for NASA to challenge the presidential elections outcome as declared by IEBC.

My take is that the Govt ought to find a better way to deal with that concern.
It is counterproductive to appear to be persecuting these guys.

Separately, as a Country we should have in place stringent requirements for filing cases with the supreme court challenging presidential election results - e.g deposit Ksh 10m with the court refundable if you win the case.

This would weed out busy bodies in it for nuisance factor.
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#1446 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:32:45 PM
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OPTICS - Did they have a warrant? Do the Police really bother to get a search warrant in Kenya?
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#1447 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:45:01 PM
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A closer look at NTV video shows the Police really did bother to get some documentation this time but the chap was befuddled by too many lawyers
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#1448 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:54:18 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Also why are these NGOs being involved in political wars?

http://www.the-star.co.k...-civil-society_c1617387

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NASA has ruled out challenging the presidential results in court but sources intimidated it would use proxies, especially anti-Jubilee right groups. They could petition the Supreme Court to overturn the IEBC declaration of Uhuru as President-elect.

KHRC is chaired by Professor Makau Mutua, a leading Jubilee critic who has said for the second time he would not recognise Uhuru's disputed victory. He said the same after the 2013 polls.

Africog entered the limelight in 2013 when alongside Cord, it petitioned the election of President Kenyatta.

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#1449 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:10:10 PM
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muganda wrote:
A closer look at NTV video shows the Police really did bother to get some documentation this time but the chap was befuddled by too many lawyers




What do they feed these NGO guys?
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#1450 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:14:11 PM
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Hehe....eti the govt wants access to the NGO servers.
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#1451 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:16:59 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:

The optics of authorities raiding civil society bodies is not good for a government that flaunts democratic credentials.

My take is that the Govt ought to find a better way to deal with that concern.
It is counterproductive to appear to be persecuting these guys.


Fear of negative perception is the try face of promoting impunity
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#1452 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:39:41 PM
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Those NASA losers will have a presser at 3pm. To be broadcast from......roll the drums pliz.......Okoa Kenya offices!
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#1453 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 2:02:18 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
Those NASA losers will have a presser at 3pm. To be broadcast from......roll the drums pliz.......Okoa Kenya offices!


Why are they announcing from the upmarket location of Lavington?

BBI will solve it :)
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#1454 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 2:04:38 PM
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thuks wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:

The optics of authorities raiding civil society bodies is not good for a government that flaunts democratic credentials.

My take is that the Govt ought to find a better way to deal with that concern.
It is counterproductive to appear to be persecuting these guys.


Fear of negative perception is the try face of promoting impunity


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Ngalaka
#1455 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 2:06:31 PM
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thuks wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:

The optics of authorities raiding civil society bodies is not good for a government that flaunts democratic credentials.

My take is that the Govt ought to find a better way to deal with that concern.
It is counterproductive to appear to be persecuting these guys.


Fear of negative perception is the try face of promoting impunity

In regard to civil society it's not perception only but also capacity to exercise tolerance.
Democracies across the globe are buzzed by these guys but they routinely tolerate them as long as they aren't violent.
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#1456 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 2:10:05 PM
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2012 wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
Those NASA losers will have a presser at 3pm. To be broadcast from......roll the drums pliz.......Okoa Kenya offices!


Why are they announcing from the upmarket location of Lavington?



Fear of their own goons.They have given them false hope and now its about to bite them back.
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#1457 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 2:10:12 PM
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safariant wrote:
muganda wrote:
A closer look at NTV video shows the Police really did bother to get some documentation this time but the chap was befuddled by too many lawyers

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaMbhHfqY[/youtube]


What do they feed these NGO guys?

Eish, Maina Kiai and Githongo....
Each must be about 120+Kg.Pray Pray Pray
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hardwood
#1458 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 2:30:25 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:
safariant wrote:
muganda wrote:
A closer look at NTV video shows the Police really did bother to get some documentation this time but the chap was befuddled by too many lawyers

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaMbhHfqY[/youtube]


What do they feed these NGO guys?

Eish, Maina Kiai and Githongo....
Each must be about 120+Kg.Pray Pray Pray


Effect of unaccounted for billions...
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hardwood
#1459 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 2:38:16 PM
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Hehe Ngunyi says this is the time to finish off baba kabisa politically. Destroy baba without mercy.


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#1460 Posted : Wednesday, August 16, 2017 3:19:24 PM
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