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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 1,793
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Bree wrote:hardwood wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:on a different note, they should introduce a requirement for some eloquence when it comes to the iebc chairman role, like a presidential debate before choosing one, this is a role that need decent communication skills. Chiloba doing a better job than the chairman. Absolutely my observations too. Old fork seems totally out of sync, defensive & zero confidence of what he's talking about. Did he loose out on something here? CEO striking out as smart, sober & composed.. just love the great confidence he's showing the world. What i see is a clear delineation of duties between them. questions, statisctisc and technicalities are handled by the CEO. Questions on process are being handled by Chairman. The team looks in sync and organised overall.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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Kaigangio wrote:[quote=hardwood]
He is being told politely..."hey chief you have lost and you have lost squarely and no excuse can change that fact. Go home". The old man does not get it. There are lots of people around Babu who are his worst enemies. They lie to him and then make him lie to himself and to the whole world. Take the case of Jimmy!. If he so believes the entire election was manipulated, why has he not denounced his win in Siaya for a start?. POoR BABU!  Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/24/2013 Posts: 455 Location: Nairobi
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kenmac wrote:safariant wrote:Uram wrote:Lolest! wrote:Uram wrote:wazuaguest wrote:Kerry says the process is credible.Live now What next for NASA? If I was RAO, I would gracefully concede. Yeah, this country needs to move on Wambora now leading by 121 votes. 7 polling station to go Embu, thrilling race. Down to the wire @ 99.15% 1. MARTIN NYAGA Wambora JP 96 410 votes (38,80%) 2. LENNY MAXWELL KIVUTI MCCP 96 331 votes (38,77%) this might be headed to the courts... The over 5000 rejected votes, and over 500 would have very likely tipped the scales either way. Wambora extends his lead to 581 votes. 3 polling stations remaining
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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Uram wrote:kenmac wrote:safariant wrote:Uram wrote:Lolest! wrote:Uram wrote:wazuaguest wrote:Kerry says the process is credible.Live now What next for NASA? If I was RAO, I would gracefully concede. Yeah, this country needs to move on Wambora now leading by 121 votes. 7 polling station to go Embu, thrilling race. Down to the wire @ 99.15% 1. MARTIN NYAGA Wambora JP 96 410 votes (38,80%) 2. LENNY MAXWELL KIVUTI MCCP 96 331 votes (38,77%) this might be headed to the courts... The over 5000 rejected votes, and over 500 would have very likely tipped the scales either way. Wambora extends his lead to 581 votes. 3 polling stations remaining 3 days later people are still counting votes...sham election. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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Unconfirmed: Raila has decide to concede anytime from now. Stay tuned work to prosper
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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innairobi wrote:Kaigangio wrote: @wakanyugi...you are very wrong...the mount kenya votes as per now is 4,382,000 votes.
This does not even include the votes from Nairobi and Nakuru regions.
Whoever inherits this block will either become a president in future or a king maker..
my prediction is that the mount kenya voting block will gradually split if ruto does become president in 2022-2032. alot can happen between now and then but no one in the region is looking like a clear leader especially given the defeat of peter kenneth. ruto being the shrewd politician he is, one of the primary goals of his presidency will be to make sure there doesnt emerge a threat to him in mount kenya during his presidency. he'll support multiple competing leaders. he'll be good to mount kenya especially in his first term to make sure there isnt a groundswell of resentment that could create a competitor to his interests. he'll however also build new alliances across the country to reduce his dependence on any remaining mount kenya block in his second term or for his preferred successor. there's no guarantee that ruto will prefer to be succeeded by a kikuyu or a person from mount kenya. uhuru will certainly not endorse any kingpin in mount kenya given how that will be interpreted in rift valley. at the national level, uhuru will have to lie low politically until circa 2030 by which time his relevance in central kenya politics will have diminished dramatically. he will have nowhere near the central kenya influence he has today. central kenya will be back to the era of multiple leaders a.la matiba vs kibaki vs ruto's kamothos embu and especially meru region will gradually break away if the kikuyu elite fail to throw their weight behind a meru/embu becoming ruto's running mate or successor. Mount Kenya block is not splitting any time soon during Ruto's tenure. Moi himself tried that from 1978...and for the next 24 years it was hell for this region. Even Ruto himself knows that he cannot ignore the 4.5m votes and he will do anything possible to retain it. Like i told you, if their economic and social interests are threatened and a leader emerges who can lead them (not the baba style), the block is simply his. Think of Matiba and Kibaki... ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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Njung'e wrote:Kaigangio wrote:[quote=hardwood]
He is being told politely..."hey chief you have lost and you have lost squarely and no excuse can change that fact. Go home". The old man does not get it. There are lots of people around Babu who are his worst enemies. They lie to him and then make him lie to himself and to the whole world. Take the case of Jimmy!. If he so believes the entire election was manipulated, why has he not denounced his win in Siaya for a start?. POoR BABU!  Come to think of it wathiomo. The old man needs a lot of prayers not players...the players have messed up his head completely.. ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/9/2008 Posts: 2,824
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Kaigangio wrote:innairobi wrote:Kaigangio wrote: @wakanyugi...you are very wrong...the mount kenya votes as per now is 4,382,000 votes.
This does not even include the votes from Nairobi and Nakuru regions.
Whoever inherits this block will either become a president in future or a king maker..
my prediction is that the mount kenya voting block will gradually split if ruto does become president in 2022-2032. alot can happen between now and then but no one in the region is looking like a clear leader especially given the defeat of peter kenneth. ruto being the shrewd politician he is, one of the primary goals of his presidency will be to make sure there doesnt emerge a threat to him in mount kenya during his presidency. he'll support multiple competing leaders. he'll be good to mount kenya especially in his first term to make sure there isnt a groundswell of resentment that could create a competitor to his interests. he'll however also build new alliances across the country to reduce his dependence on any remaining mount kenya block in his second term or for his preferred successor. there's no guarantee that ruto will prefer to be succeeded by a kikuyu or a person from mount kenya. uhuru will certainly not endorse any kingpin in mount kenya given how that will be interpreted in rift valley. at the national level, uhuru will have to lie low politically until circa 2030 by which time his relevance in central kenya politics will have diminished dramatically. he will have nowhere near the central kenya influence he has today. central kenya will be back to the era of multiple leaders a.la matiba vs kibaki vs ruto's kamothos embu and especially meru region will gradually break away if the kikuyu elite fail to throw their weight behind a meru/embu becoming ruto's running mate or successor. Mount Kenya block is not splitting any time soon during Ruto's tenure. Moi himself tried that from 1978...and for the next 24 years it was hell for this region. Even Ruto himself knows that he cannot ignore the 4.5m votes and he will do anything possible to retain it. Like i told you, if their economic and social interests are threatened and a leader emerges who can lead them (not the baba style), the block is simply his. Think of Matiba and Kibaki... I am getting an idea here. When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Tokyo wrote:Unconfirmed: Raila has decide to concede anytime from now. Stay tuned I understand that all the form 34A and 34B's that have been perused so far tally 100% with the provisional results that were projected by IEBC. And thus the decision to concede. .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Uram wrote:kenmac wrote:safariant wrote:Uram wrote:Lolest! wrote:Uram wrote:wazuaguest wrote:Kerry says the process is credible.Live now What next for NASA? If I was RAO, I would gracefully concede. Yeah, this country needs to move on Wambora now leading by 121 votes. 7 polling station to go Embu, thrilling race. Down to the wire @ 99.15% 1. MARTIN NYAGA Wambora JP 96 410 votes (38,80%) 2. LENNY MAXWELL KIVUTI MCCP 96 331 votes (38,77%) this might be headed to the courts... The over 5000 rejected votes, and over 500 would have very likely tipped the scales either way. Wambora extends his lead to 581 votes. 3 polling stations remaining 560 objected votes! I see a by election here Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/24/2013 Posts: 455 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,907
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Uram wrote:Ekuru concedes With a very commendable speech to boot!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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kenmac wrote:Bree wrote:hardwood wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:on a different note, they should introduce a requirement for some eloquence when it comes to the iebc chairman role, like a presidential debate before choosing one, this is a role that need decent communication skills. Chiloba doing a better job than the chairman. Absolutely my observations too. Old fork seems totally out of sync, defensive & zero confidence of what he's talking about. Did he loose out on something here? CEO striking out as smart, sober & composed.. just love the great confidence he's showing the world. What i see is a clear delineation of duties between them. questions, statisctisc and technicalities are handled by the CEO. Questions on process are being handled by Chairman. The team looks in sync and organised overall. The process seem to be fine, but the chairman is the presidential RO, and also his communication of the same process is important especially when results are close, perceptions are important in such cases.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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Uram wrote:Ekuru concedes Nice concession speech.And he looks good. (Analeta msisimuko kiasi) Yes UR must unite us. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Ekuru Aukot has conceded defeat and congratulated Ohuru for the big win. He has asked baba to also concede because all the form 34 a&Bs that Aukot's presidential agents has gone through are accurate.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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muganda wrote:Uram wrote:Ekuru concedes With a very commendable speech to boot!  .......but.....WTF!!!... are we at a point where we are begging Raila to concede yet all indications are that he lost fair and square??  .He cannot hold the entire nation at ransom!! Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,635
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Kaigangio wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Kaigangio wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:2012 wrote:innairobi wrote:FRM2011 wrote:Someone sent me this and I think its worth sharing. The most dependable vote bloc (turnout) still remains Mt.Kenya.
muranga 86
kirinyaga 86
nyeri 85
nyandarua 85
kiambu 82
Bomet 81
Narok 78
Kericho 78
Kisumu 78
Nakuru 77
Kajiado 77
Nandi 76
meru 75
Bungoma 74
Uasin Gishu 74
Kakamega 74
machakos 73
Kisii 73
Nyamira 72
Nairobi 69
mombasa 57
will be interesting to see turnout when central kenya does not have a major presidential candidate as is likely to be the case in 2022. True. I don't think Central will vote in a block of 80/20 but maybe 60/40. But Central politics are 100% about their issues eg, protection of businesses, markets, security etc. It's not about individuals. A Ruto/Mutua ticket, with similar inroads into Coast, NEP and Western, will not need Central to win @wakanyugi...you are very wrong...the mount kenya votes as per now is 4,382,000 votes. This does not even include the votes from Nairobi and Nakuru regions. Whoever inherits this block will either become a president in future or a king maker.. Nobody inherits a Central Kenya voting block. Here leaders follow the people, not the other way round. How many times did Uhuru have to beg for support, even in Kiambu? Voter apathy and fragmentation, especially if a credible Meru candidate emerges, is what will destroy this blocks potency. My good friend Uhuru inherited the block from Kibaki after he was recommended by akina late wise Michuki and other elders. Michuki even said it in public. Do you remember what happened to Uhuru in 2002...Uhuru had only been endorsed by Moi and believe me in Mt Kenya region he only got his votes from Kiambu area...that is why he lost to Kibaki. This is an argument that only time can decide. But think about this: both Uhuru and Kibaki were once abandoned by their own Kikuyu kin, granted for 'Mundu wa Nyumba' each time, but rejected all the same. In this election, Uhuru tried to sell a six piece narrative and was shouted down - and then followed the massacre of Independents (go figure). Leading the Kikuyu is like herding a flock of cats. You take their loyalty for granted at your own political peril. You made an important point in a different thread, that the one thing that gets the Kikuyu to really come out is when they feel under threat. Very true, they vote their own interest first, loyalty to a person, even their own, comes a distant second. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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Njung'e wrote:muganda wrote:Uram wrote:Ekuru concedes With a very commendable speech to boot! .......but.....WTF!!!... are we at a point where we are begging Raila to concede yet all indications are that he lost fair and square?? .He cannot hold the entire nation at ransom!! At this point in time personally I say he can go to hell!!!! He has also lost that statesmanship mantle if you ask me. ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/5/2008 Posts: 532 Location: Nairobi
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i've come to believe rao is edged-on , by a myriad of phantom guys ,who ride on his tail coats but deliver nothing. Isaac ruto, mdvd, weta...u can't blame rao. He is mislead even by his inner court; Orengo ; to collect legal fee... poor baba, i voted for u. Now that phantom IT guy just disgraced everything....
Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. –Albert Einstein.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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Kaigangio wrote:Njung'e wrote:muganda wrote:Uram wrote:Ekuru concedes With a very commendable speech to boot! .......but.....WTF!!!... are we at a point where we are begging Raila to concede yet all indications are that he lost fair and square?? .He cannot hold the entire nation at ransom!! At this point in time personally I say he can go to hell!!!! He has also lost that statesmanship mantle if you ask me. I will give much RESPECT to the first Kenyan to show Raila the middle finger....and to hell with his statemanship. I don't eat that!! Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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