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2017 Election results
Shak
#541 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:21:48 AM
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Raila says that even if IEBC releases the forms 34A and B they can't trust them since they will have been tampered with
kenmac
#542 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:22:20 AM
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wal6807 wrote:
limanika wrote:
This was expected. Trying to lay ground for nusu mkate at 'worst case'



How did they gain access ? and what if the Hacking was done to lay the ground for nusu ?



Exactly the point.
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Hobitke
#543 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:23:45 AM
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How did they get the evidence? How surely did they get all this off a running database? Interesting how they shift the responsibility of handing over the evidence ( to the media ) back to the IEBC!
ZZE123
#544 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:27:41 AM
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It appears that voter turnout will be about 76% (people were predicting 90%) - so if Jubilee added votes it means the turnout was lower than 76%.. unless they were stealing RAO votes and adding them to UK!!!
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Lolest!
#545 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:32:16 AM
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Shak wrote:
Raila says that even if IEBC releases the forms 34A and B they can't trust them since they will have been tampered with

Nusu mkate at zero option
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Lolest!
#546 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:33:57 AM
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Hobitke wrote:
How did they get the evidence? How surely did they get all this off a running database? Interesting how they shift the responsibility of handing over the evidence ( to the media ) back to the IEBC!

I was wondering too but the journalists asked it and he said it's from an IEBC insider
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limanika
#547 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:34:46 AM
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kenmac wrote:
wal6807 wrote:
limanika wrote:
This was expected. Trying to lay ground for nusu mkate at 'worst case'



How did they gain access ? and what if the Hacking was done to lay the ground for nusu ?



Exactly the point.

I don't think they hacked..nowadays anyone can 'create' a document and claim it's a log. Very irresponsible,main reason keyans voted him out
kayhara
#548 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:36:50 AM
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From that presser, seems NASA don't have anything, they have refused to answer simple questions by journalists, and why did kalonzo have to make that statement careless, why tell calm people to stay calm, how did they come across this info were they also trying to hack, why wait till now yet they say the hacking started at 12,the IT expert ran away before any questions were asked.
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Impunity
#549 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:36:58 AM
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2012 wrote:
Surely, has Raila ever lost an election?


Yes,1997.
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Impunity
#550 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:39:52 AM
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Kaigangio wrote:
Have you guys noticed that Jubilee Party is commanding a whooping 73.45% of National Assembly!!
While at senate it has 44.7%!!


All results from Mca to Presidential has been tamperes with.
Kirudiwo ndio only way for the entire exercise...or else!
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alma1
#551 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:40:11 AM
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Emotions emotions. From both sides.

There was a court case that was delivered that it seems people did not take seriously. Remember the one of results are at the polling station?

I supported it because of two reasons

1. The losers usually start screaming in Kenya that results were tampered with.
2. There has always been an underlying doubt about those media events at bomas.

So ODM is saying that the current results showing up at the IEBC portal are not the right ones.

For a moment let me as someone who works with databases explain. Yes, it is possible. Even Americans were hacked.

However, don't get too much into IT speak. Or you shall get ulcers. Yes, it is possible that someone hacks into the IT system and changes results. That is why we have guys like Masukuma with jobs. To figure out how and what happened.

However, Kenya is not voting electronically. That is something that seems lost on people. Kenyans vote MANUALLY results relayed digitally.

What the IEBC has done so far is just brilliant. Though the results are right there for us to see in their portal. They have YET to release the results.

So yes, Raila can complain all he wants about hacking a results tabulation computer. But the law in Kenya is very simple. It's form that one sijui 34a b or c or whatever they call it. Those are the real results.

As long as IEBC has not announced those ones I see no reason for Raila's statement.

When IEBC finishes tallying it's form something, they will announce the results.

So until IEBC makes a statement, then it's premature. If Nasa did its work, they can then bring out their copies of form something or another.

There is a hacker who can hack into any system. However, there is yet to be found a hacker who can hack form 34 whatever. Raila should chill a bit and also tell the IT guy that his job was done na amlipe pesa yake.

Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

madollar
#552 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:40:25 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
Shak wrote:
Raila says that even if IEBC releases the forms 34A and B they can't trust them since they will have been tampered with

Nusu mkate at zero option

For a nusu mkate to actualise he has to internationalise this.What are Akina john Kerry and mbeki saying.
Kaigangio
#553 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:42:29 AM
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madollar wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Shak wrote:
Raila says that even if IEBC releases the forms 34A and B they can't trust them since they will have been tampered with

Nusu mkate at zero option

For a nusu mkate to actualise he has to internationalise this.What are Akina john Kerry and mbeki saying.


They are saying that the election was free and fair throughout.
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Shak
#554 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:42:45 AM
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#555 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:43:10 AM
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Baba says all results from MCA, mpig, governor to president etc are compromised by the "hacking" and should not be accepted. I thought mcas, mpigs, governors etc are already celebrating their victories? How can baba tell them that their win is fake?
Shak
#556 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:44:29 AM
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Kaigangio wrote:
madollar wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Shak wrote:
Raila says that even if IEBC releases the forms 34A and B they can't trust them since they will have been tampered with

Nusu mkate at zero option

For a nusu mkate to actualise he has to internationalise this.What are Akina john Kerry and mbeki saying.


They are saying that the election was free and fair throughout.

According to him akina Mbeki only gave the actual voting a clean bill of health but were not able to monitor the 'manipulation' thereafter. These guys are a big joke
wal6807
#557 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:46:21 AM
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kayhara wrote:
From that presser, seems NASA don't have anything, they have refused to answer simple questions by journalists, and why did kalonzo have to make that statement careless, why tell calm people to stay calm, how did they come across this info were they also trying to hack, why wait till now yet they say the hacking started at 12,the IT expert ran away before any questions were asked.



Also found it careless , given that RAO said he cannot control the people.. this is classic 2007
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limanika
#558 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:48:24 AM
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madollar wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Shak wrote:
Raila says that even if IEBC releases the forms 34A and B they can't trust them since they will have been tampered with

Nusu mkate at zero option

For a nusu mkate to actualise he has to internationalise this.What are Akina john Kerry and mbeki saying.

Not so fast..in 07 it took a fake RO from molo...expect naswa to start parading MCA/mp with fake evidence any time since hacking story isn't 'cutting'
Kaigangio
#559 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:51:41 AM
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wal6807 wrote:
kayhara wrote:
From that presser, seems NASA don't have anything, they have refused to answer simple questions by journalists, and why did kalonzo have to make that statement careless, why tell calm people to stay calm, how did they come across this info were they also trying to hack, why wait till now yet they say the hacking started at 12,the IT expert ran away before any questions were asked.



Also found it careless , given that RAO said he cannot control the people.. this is classic 2007


Not really..It will be different. Why?
because he will face a rebellion from his own leaders who have been elected and there is no way they will want their victory taken away by one selfish individual. Hiyo haiwezekani.
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
obiero
#560 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:52:30 AM
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