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KenolKobil HY 2017 profit before tax up 20%
winston
#21 Posted : Friday, August 04, 2017 7:56:34 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
winston wrote:
mlennyma wrote:

This story sounds like a puma condition


What about the other side of the story 'The KPRL made a counterclaim of Sh1.2 billion from the oil marketer for allegedly defaulting on payment for petroleum products, leading to a stalemate'

Did KPRL also writeoff?

A write-off by KK doesn't mean they have given up on the claim from KPRL. They are cleaning the books but I expect a global settlement to happen in the future and KK will "write-back" the amount.

As for KPRL's claim, if they succeed then they can offset it vs what they owe KK.


Ok...thanks
h2s
#22 Posted : Monday, August 07, 2017 2:39:30 PM
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Kenol spends Sh320m on settling court battles
And still gave interim dividend!
VituVingiSana
#23 Posted : Monday, August 07, 2017 3:47:48 PM
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h2s wrote:
Kenol spends Sh320m on settling court battles
And still gave interim dividend!

KK is a solid firm. Unlike KQ, it didn't go running to GoK for a bailout after Segman screwed up. KK can expect to make at least 1/- per share in 2H.
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obiero
#24 Posted : Monday, August 07, 2017 7:38:48 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
h2s wrote:
Kenol spends Sh320m on settling court battles
And still gave interim dividend!

KK is a solid firm. Unlike KQ, it didn't go running to GoK for a bailout after Segman screwed up. KK can expect to make at least 1/- per share in 2H.

It's not KQs fault that KK doesn't have a big brother..
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bartum
#25 Posted : Thursday, September 14, 2017 12:23:35 PM
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Will this any effect to KK Bottomline
http://www.businessdaily...094906-jrx3sx/index.html
mlennyma
#26 Posted : Thursday, September 14, 2017 5:23:46 PM
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[quote=bartum]Will this any effect to KK Bottomline
http://www.businessdaily...94906-jrx3sx/index.html[/quote]
give kk about 15% of 945m...coming to around 142m
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Pesa Nane
#27 Posted : Friday, September 15, 2017 10:20:04 PM
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obiero
#28 Posted : Monday, September 18, 2017 10:45:42 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
murchr wrote:
(Reuters) wrote:
Aug 2 - KENOLKOBIL LTD:

* HY ENDED JUNE 2017 SALES 72.64 BILLION SHILLINGS VERSUS 39.94 BILLION SHILLINGS YEAR AGO

* HY ENDED JUNE 2017 PROFIT BEFORE TAX OF 2.08 BILLION SHILLINGS VERSUS 1.73 BILLION SHILLINGS YEAR AGO

* SAYS DECLARED INTERIM DIVIDEND OF 0.30 SHILLINGS PER SHARE, PAYABLE ON OR AROUND OCT 1, 2017 Further company coverage: (Bangalore.newsroom@thomsonreuters.com)


All that increase in sales has come to nought
..

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Jealous much?
KK will pay more in a single interim dividend on a single share than KQ has made in profits in 5 years! Applause Applause Applause

And this profit is AFTER providing 300mn for KPRL and other legal costs/payouts. Drool Drool Drool Sweeter stuff coming in 2H 2017.

Banks want to lend KK money unlike KQ using GoK to arm-twist banks into lending money! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

that man who won the pangani legal tussle was paid and still no major impact and the amount was almost the equivalent of the kprl provision they have made...we were paid 30cts recently and now another 30cts and still expect atleast 40 cts year end

Terry Davidson exits the board after over 10 years of diligent visionary guidance.. next an ex director now asks for KES 300m share compensation. Rot on a fish http://www.businessdaily...01734-14prmru/index.html
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Ebenyo
#29 Posted : Monday, December 11, 2017 3:14:07 PM
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97% increase in sales is great.
Could do well to reign on increase in admnistrative and operative costs at 41%.
Something should be done at 105% increase in cost of sales.
Profit margin of 2% is not great.This could increase in 2019 after kprl write off is settled.
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Ericsson
#30 Posted : Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:05:21 AM
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Brent crude at $65.6 a barrel.It's getting rough.
Horton
#31 Posted : Tuesday, December 12, 2017 10:06:50 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Brent crude at $65.6 a barrel.It's getting rough.



Yeah but for Kenya on the whole. Our break even was 50-55$
I own shares in KCB,CYTONN, BRK.B
VituVingiSana
#32 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 12:01:22 AM
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Horton wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Brent crude at $65.6 a barrel.It's getting rough.


Yeah but for Kenya on the whole. Our break even was 50-55$
$65 doesn't help us now [inflation, etc]... Plus I prefer lower oil prices as a consumer since "Kenya" comprises too many pigs and leeches at the top i.e. how much (& when) of the $65/bbl (of Kenya's oil) will come to VVS?

In the meantime, $65 will eat into KK's profitability BUT I also see a silver lining i.e. only the strong can finance imports of OTS cargoes [low margin, high volume, (almost) default free]...

Can KK leverage the OTS to make more trading profits?
Can KK out-muscle smaller/weaker independent retail players using its financial muscle?
Can KK expand its LPG and lubricants businesses using its outlets?
Can KK leverage on its relationships with the refiners to source cheaper refined fuel?
Can KK leverage its storage/ullage to stock up on (cheap) fuel as prices rise? [Risky strategy if prices start dropping]

I will look at the 31 Dec 2017 balance sheet closely especially the "debt" portion.
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