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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:Amores wrote:What exactly is the point of this thread? I tried to understand the original poster's arguments and I got lost, but i understood from comments that its something about Kikuyus being arrogant and entitled? You Kikuyus out there, go out and vote! Never feel the need to explain yourselves or justify anything anyone!
And maybe this thread should be deleted.. The point is someone thinks that the Kikuyus are arrogant for voting as a tribal unit just like everyone else. 2012 wrote:Amores wrote:What exactly is the point of this thread? I tried to understand the original poster's arguments and I got lost, but i understood from comments that its something about Kikuyus being arrogant and entitled? You Kikuyus out there, go out and vote! Never feel the need to explain yourselves or justify anything anyone!
And maybe this thread should be deleted.. The point is someone thinks that the Kikuyus are arrogant for voting as a tribal unit just like everyone else. it's not an argument!!! kikuyus have always had someone on the ballot since 92 and that is fine!! the only time luos didn't have someone "proper" on the ballot was 2002. Luos and Kikuyus each vote for themselves... na ni sawa!! but why does the claim stick when it's thrown at kyuks? stop "reasoning" it out! it's a perception matter! I was addressing the reason for the perception. Deleting this thread does not delete these notions and perceptions from people's heads!! It has nothing to do with voting as a tribal unit!! it has everything to do with the PERCEPTION that some kikuyus think they are superior to others!! I am telling you where those perceptions come from!! some is insensitivity! things like speaking your mother tongue to others and in public places.... (it's not an argument... i am telling you HOW IT APPEARS regardless of how it was intended). has anyone ever received that "kujua lugha ya taifa" rejoinder after someone mistakenly spoke kyuk to you and you said you don't speak kikuyu? I have heard a number of people being told that!! the person speaking may say it as a joke but it may not be taken as a joke! If a girl rejects you - you don't write a piece of paper explaining how well suited you are for her... you reach out and try and figure out... KWA NINI AMENIKATAA? the reasons she could have rejected you could be real or imaginary but since you want her - you address her 'concerns'. I am that guy who is telling you WHY she is rejecting you and you are busy telling me... NO!! SHE SHOULD NOT REJECT ME BECAUSE OF X,Y,Z - Bro!! She has!! Deal with it!! @Muchr,, murchr wrote:This thread reminded me of a story I heard of a Somali woman who was attacked for speaking Kiswahili with a companion in a US restaurant. People who want others to conform in their type of thinking and way of life, if you dont then you are arrogant. Who judges the other candidates when they speak their language in public places? Why are they not labelled or tagged? it's not fair... DEAL WITH IT!! THAT IS WHY I STARTED WITH A QUOTE!! Quote:That’s how life works. Sometimes the people with the most shit have to shut up and let other people talk shit about them. Sometimes the people with the most shit get to say the least shit, and the people with the least shit get to say the most shit, so if you wanna say more shit, get rid of some of your shit. I will get a bit personal. You married off your tribe and it pisses you off big time that the people around you speak a language that leaves your significant other out. You get offended by the fact that she cannot easily assimilate and you can do nothing about it. Fact is, no one has any reason to conform to what you want. Those Kikuyu speaking people will continue to speak however they want and they should not have any reason WHATSOEVER to be apologetic. hahaha. So where should he have married? In Kiambu? Murchr, Uthamakistan must end and it shall. Maybe the shock for you is that it's the very people it's supposed to help who are totally against it. Sad sad sad sad comment. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Hapa Masukuma anafaa anyue maji an ali-relax. There is no point to be made here I am happy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Amores wrote:Hapa Masukuma anafaa anyue maji an ali-relax. There is no point to be made here oohhh but he did. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:Amores wrote:What exactly is the point of this thread? I tried to understand the original poster's arguments and I got lost, but i understood from comments that its something about Kikuyus being arrogant and entitled? You Kikuyus out there, go out and vote! Never feel the need to explain yourselves or justify anything anyone!
And maybe this thread should be deleted.. The point is someone thinks that the Kikuyus are arrogant for voting as a tribal unit just like everyone else. 2012 wrote:Amores wrote:What exactly is the point of this thread? I tried to understand the original poster's arguments and I got lost, but i understood from comments that its something about Kikuyus being arrogant and entitled? You Kikuyus out there, go out and vote! Never feel the need to explain yourselves or justify anything anyone!
And maybe this thread should be deleted.. The point is someone thinks that the Kikuyus are arrogant for voting as a tribal unit just like everyone else. it's not an argument!!! kikuyus have always had someone on the ballot since 92 and that is fine!! the only time luos didn't have someone "proper" on the ballot was 2002. Luos and Kikuyus each vote for themselves... na ni sawa!! but why does the claim stick when it's thrown at kyuks? stop "reasoning" it out! it's a perception matter! I was addressing the reason for the perception. Deleting this thread does not delete these notions and perceptions from people's heads!! It has nothing to do with voting as a tribal unit!! it has everything to do with the PERCEPTION that some kikuyus think they are superior to others!! I am telling you where those perceptions come from!! some is insensitivity! things like speaking your mother tongue to others and in public places.... (it's not an argument... i am telling you HOW IT APPEARS regardless of how it was intended). has anyone ever received that "kujua lugha ya taifa" rejoinder after someone mistakenly spoke kyuk to you and you said you don't speak kikuyu? I have heard a number of people being told that!! the person speaking may say it as a joke but it may not be taken as a joke! If a girl rejects you - you don't write a piece of paper explaining how well suited you are for her... you reach out and try and figure out... KWA NINI AMENIKATAA? the reasons she could have rejected you could be real or imaginary but since you want her - you address her 'concerns'. I am that guy who is telling you WHY she is rejecting you and you are busy telling me... NO!! SHE SHOULD NOT REJECT ME BECAUSE OF X,Y,Z - Bro!! She has!! Deal with it!! @Muchr,, murchr wrote:This thread reminded me of a story I heard of a Somali woman who was attacked for speaking Kiswahili with a companion in a US restaurant. People who want others to conform in their type of thinking and way of life, if you dont then you are arrogant. Who judges the other candidates when they speak their language in public places? Why are they not labelled or tagged? it's not fair... DEAL WITH IT!! THAT IS WHY I STARTED WITH A QUOTE!! Quote:That’s how life works. Sometimes the people with the most shit have to shut up and let other people talk shit about them. Sometimes the people with the most shit get to say the least shit, and the people with the least shit get to say the most shit, so if you wanna say more shit, get rid of some of your shit. I will get a bit personal. You married off your tribe and it pisses you off big time that the people around you speak a language that leaves your significant other out. You get offended by the fact that she cannot easily assimilate and you can do nothing about it. Fact is, no one has any reason to conform to what you want. Those Kikuyu speaking people will continue to speak however they want and they should not have any reason WHATSOEVER to be apologetic. actually no!! they love her!! really... secondly... it's really their choice really!! you choose 1 of 2 things: 1) to continue as-is and match forward in total disregard of what I say 2) to try and understand WHY and address theses concerns (real or imaginary) remember, while you chose what you want to do - you don't choose how others perceive you! Remember, I am a messenger... hii ni salamu tu! Ujumbe waja kesho!! I personally think that if Uhuru wins - a certain notion will cement itself in the heads of people! the notion that "they are better" especially the 'jews' thinking lot! if rejected - they will need to rebuild! try and figure out where they lost the plot! Ethnic political hegemony in the last couple of years has solidified this notion! Dismissive/Arrogant statements like 'kukula nyama - wengine wakimeza mate' have united people around you. Ask yourself - why are Kisii's not supporting you? why are Luhyas not supporting you? I will not be surprised if Somalis don't! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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alma1 wrote:Amores wrote:Hapa Masukuma anafaa anyue maji an ali-relax. There is no point to be made here oohhh but he did. I missed ALL OF IT, i guess i am trying to multi-task. or my mind is shut,and i don't want to hear about kikuyu, kikuyu that, nonsense. I wonder how i would feel, if I were Kikuyu. I would be pretty upset. I am happy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Amores wrote:alma1 wrote:Amores wrote:Hapa Masukuma anafaa anyue maji an ali-relax. There is no point to be made here oohhh but he did. I missed ALL OF IT, i guess i am trying to multi-task. or my mind is shut,and i don't want to hear about kikuyu, kikuyu that, nonsense. I wonder how i would feel, if I were Kikuyu. I would be pretty upset. Oh pris stop with these crocodile tears. Ati if Kikuyus heard this they shall feel bad. It is Kikuyus on this forum saying it! We have had enough of these race baiting tactics on this forum. They are terrible and shallow. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:Amores wrote:What exactly is the point of this thread? I tried to understand the original poster's arguments and I got lost, but i understood from comments that its something about Kikuyus being arrogant and entitled? You Kikuyus out there, go out and vote! Never feel the need to explain yourselves or justify anything anyone!
And maybe this thread should be deleted.. The point is someone thinks that the Kikuyus are arrogant for voting as a tribal unit just like everyone else. 2012 wrote:Amores wrote:What exactly is the point of this thread? I tried to understand the original poster's arguments and I got lost, but i understood from comments that its something about Kikuyus being arrogant and entitled? You Kikuyus out there, go out and vote! Never feel the need to explain yourselves or justify anything anyone!
And maybe this thread should be deleted.. The point is someone thinks that the Kikuyus are arrogant for voting as a tribal unit just like everyone else. it's not an argument!!! kikuyus have always had someone on the ballot since 92 and that is fine!! the only time luos didn't have someone "proper" on the ballot was 2002. Luos and Kikuyus each vote for themselves... na ni sawa!! but why does the claim stick when it's thrown at kyuks? stop "reasoning" it out! it's a perception matter! I was addressing the reason for the perception. Deleting this thread does not delete these notions and perceptions from people's heads!! It has nothing to do with voting as a tribal unit!! it has everything to do with the PERCEPTION that some kikuyus think they are superior to others!! I am telling you where those perceptions come from!! some is insensitivity! things like speaking your mother tongue to others and in public places.... (it's not an argument... i am telling you HOW IT APPEARS regardless of how it was intended). has anyone ever received that "kujua lugha ya taifa" rejoinder after someone mistakenly spoke kyuk to you and you said you don't speak kikuyu? I have heard a number of people being told that!! the person speaking may say it as a joke but it may not be taken as a joke! If a girl rejects you - you don't write a piece of paper explaining how well suited you are for her... you reach out and try and figure out... KWA NINI AMENIKATAA? the reasons she could have rejected you could be real or imaginary but since you want her - you address her 'concerns'. I am that guy who is telling you WHY she is rejecting you and you are busy telling me... NO!! SHE SHOULD NOT REJECT ME BECAUSE OF X,Y,Z - Bro!! She has!! Deal with it!! @Muchr,, murchr wrote:This thread reminded me of a story I heard of a Somali woman who was attacked for speaking Kiswahili with a companion in a US restaurant. People who want others to conform in their type of thinking and way of life, if you dont then you are arrogant. Who judges the other candidates when they speak their language in public places? Why are they not labelled or tagged? it's not fair... DEAL WITH IT!! THAT IS WHY I STARTED WITH A QUOTE!! Quote:That’s how life works. Sometimes the people with the most shit have to shut up and let other people talk shit about them. Sometimes the people with the most shit get to say the least shit, and the people with the least shit get to say the most shit, so if you wanna say more shit, get rid of some of your shit. I will get a bit personal. You married off your tribe and it pisses you off big time that the people around you speak a language that leaves your significant other out. You get offended by the fact that she cannot easily assimilate and you can do nothing about it. Fact is, no one has any reason to conform to what you want. Those Kikuyu speaking people will continue to speak however they want and they should not have any reason WHATSOEVER to be apologetic. actually no!! they love her!! really... secondly... it's really their choice really!! you choose 1 of 2 things: 1) to continue as-is and match forward in total disregard of what I say 2) to try and understand WHY and address theses concerns (real or imaginary) remember, while you chose what you want to do - you don't choose how others perceive you! Remember, I am a messenger... hii ni salamu tu! Ujumbe waja kesho!! I personally think that if Uhuru wins - a certain notion will cement itself in the heads of people! the notion that "they are better" especially the 'jews' thinking lot! if rejected - they will need to rebuild! try and figure out where they lost the plot! Ethnic political hegemony in the last couple of years has solidified this notion! Dismissive/Arrogant statements like 'kukula nyama - wengine wakimeza mate' have united people around you. Ask yourself - why are Kisii's not supporting you? why are Luhyas not supporting you? I will not be surprised if Somalis don't! Perception is personal and you can never dictate what people think of you period. Lets take Kibaki as an example, the man was a stateman, never uttered a word in Kikuyu did he shed the Kikuyu tag? A reporter asks Kalonzo a question on a press briefing and Kalonzo turns to him asking him what's your name, upon hearing the name Kalonzo chooses not to answer the question because "his name betrays him" Walk around Nyanza and you'll here...sisi hatuna shida na Ohuru lakini Ruto....ai hapana. So the problem becomes Uhuru's choice WSR not his Kikuyuness. In this world you will be judged for everything. Be born rich - ooh he lived with a silver spoon - Be born poor - ooh he will steal in short you are damned if i do damned if i don't. Simply live your life "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:Amores wrote:What exactly is the point of this thread? I tried to understand the original poster's arguments and I got lost, but i understood from comments that its something about Kikuyus being arrogant and entitled? You Kikuyus out there, go out and vote! Never feel the need to explain yourselves or justify anything anyone!
And maybe this thread should be deleted.. The point is someone thinks that the Kikuyus are arrogant for voting as a tribal unit just like everyone else. 2012 wrote:Amores wrote:What exactly is the point of this thread? I tried to understand the original poster's arguments and I got lost, but i understood from comments that its something about Kikuyus being arrogant and entitled? You Kikuyus out there, go out and vote! Never feel the need to explain yourselves or justify anything anyone!
And maybe this thread should be deleted.. The point is someone thinks that the Kikuyus are arrogant for voting as a tribal unit just like everyone else. it's not an argument!!! kikuyus have always had someone on the ballot since 92 and that is fine!! the only time luos didn't have someone "proper" on the ballot was 2002. Luos and Kikuyus each vote for themselves... na ni sawa!! but why does the claim stick when it's thrown at kyuks? stop "reasoning" it out! it's a perception matter! I was addressing the reason for the perception. Deleting this thread does not delete these notions and perceptions from people's heads!! It has nothing to do with voting as a tribal unit!! it has everything to do with the PERCEPTION that some kikuyus think they are superior to others!! I am telling you where those perceptions come from!! some is insensitivity! things like speaking your mother tongue to others and in public places.... (it's not an argument... i am telling you HOW IT APPEARS regardless of how it was intended). has anyone ever received that "kujua lugha ya taifa" rejoinder after someone mistakenly spoke kyuk to you and you said you don't speak kikuyu? I have heard a number of people being told that!! the person speaking may say it as a joke but it may not be taken as a joke! If a girl rejects you - you don't write a piece of paper explaining how well suited you are for her... you reach out and try and figure out... KWA NINI AMENIKATAA? the reasons she could have rejected you could be real or imaginary but since you want her - you address her 'concerns'. I am that guy who is telling you WHY she is rejecting you and you are busy telling me... NO!! SHE SHOULD NOT REJECT ME BECAUSE OF X,Y,Z - Bro!! She has!! Deal with it!! @Muchr,, murchr wrote:This thread reminded me of a story I heard of a Somali woman who was attacked for speaking Kiswahili with a companion in a US restaurant. People who want others to conform in their type of thinking and way of life, if you dont then you are arrogant. Who judges the other candidates when they speak their language in public places? Why are they not labelled or tagged? it's not fair... DEAL WITH IT!! THAT IS WHY I STARTED WITH A QUOTE!! Quote:That’s how life works. Sometimes the people with the most shit have to shut up and let other people talk shit about them. Sometimes the people with the most shit get to say the least shit, and the people with the least shit get to say the most shit, so if you wanna say more shit, get rid of some of your shit. I will get a bit personal. You married off your tribe and it pisses you off big time that the people around you speak a language that leaves your significant other out. You get offended by the fact that she cannot easily assimilate and you can do nothing about it. Fact is, no one has any reason to conform to what you want. Those Kikuyu speaking people will continue to speak however they want and they should not have any reason WHATSOEVER to be apologetic. actually no!! they love her!! really... secondly... it's really their choice really!! you choose 1 of 2 things: 1) to continue as-is and match forward in total disregard of what I say 2) to try and understand WHY and address theses concerns (real or imaginary) remember, while you chose what you want to do - you don't choose how others perceive you! Remember, I am a messenger... hii ni salamu tu! Ujumbe waja kesho!! I personally think that if Uhuru wins - a certain notion will cement itself in the heads of people! the notion that "they are better" especially the 'jews' thinking lot! if rejected - they will need to rebuild! try and figure out where they lost the plot! Ethnic political hegemony in the last couple of years has solidified this notion! Dismissive/Arrogant statements like 'kukula nyama - wengine wakimeza mate' have united people around you. Ask yourself - why are Kisii's not supporting you? why are Luhyas not supporting you? I will not be surprised if Somalis don't! Perception is personal and you can never dictate what people think of you period. Lets take Kibaki as an example, the man was a stateman, never uttered a word in Kikuyu did he shed the Kikuyu tag? A reporter asks Kalonzo a question on a press briefing and Kalonzo turns to him asking him what's your name, upon hearing the name Kalonzo chooses not to answer the question because "his name betrays him" Walk around Nyanza and you'll here...sisi hatuna shida na Ohuru lakini Ruto....ai hapana. So the problem becomes Uhuru's choice WSR not his Kikuyuness. In this world you will be judged for everything. Be born rich - ooh he lived with a silver spoon - Be born poor - ooh he will steal in short you are damned if i do damned if i don't. Simply live your life Murchr, stop trying to change history here. It's impossible. Kibaki is the only president in this country to get country wide support. In fact, people used to wait for him to say mavi ya kuku. So stop implying that he was only percieved as a statesman in Nyeri. Ask him. I have seen 3 attempts to bring Kalonzo in this conversation. It's not part of the topic and to be honest with you, it looks very bad on your prefered candidate Sonko. Ama you missed Sonko and Kalonzo on phone? When talking about shida ya Uhuru na Ruto, aren't you saying exactly what Masukuma is saying? People don't have a problem with Uhuru personally even in Nyanza. Lakini, you mbrogas have a problem. The good thing about the internet is that it never forgets. I can quote for you jubiree mbrogas here. All of them Kikuyu. We all have seen what they have been writing. How come I have not seen the same vitriol and bullshit from Kalenjin Jubilee mbrogas? In fact, you still have not apologized for bringing Masukuma's wife into this. Guys I'm telling you here. As an old man. Wacheni huu ujinga. People don't hate Kikuyus. But surely, if you call Nyanza people looters and stone throwers and expect them to vote for you, you are stretching reality. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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alma1 wrote:Amores wrote:alma1 wrote:Amores wrote:Hapa Masukuma anafaa anyue maji an ali-relax. There is no point to be made here oohhh but he did. I missed ALL OF IT, i guess i am trying to multi-task. or my mind is shut,and i don't want to hear about kikuyu, kikuyu that, nonsense. I wonder how i would feel, if I were Kikuyu. I would be pretty upset. Oh pris stop with these crocodile tears. A ti if Kikuyus heard this they shall feel bad. It is Kikuyus on this forum saying it! We have had enough of these race baiting tactics on this forum. They are terrible and shallow. hehehe, nope, this is not what i said . Can you read my post tena? I am happy
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Where can I buy a 'new tribal tag'? I have been looking for 90bob unga with little success. Now where is this meat I a supposedly eating? I care!
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