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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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Just asking i was a young lad during the M01 rule, did HOUSE privilege exist then or did it pop up during Kenyatta, die during Moi and resurrect during Kibaki, Does this mean if baba wins we shall have Luo privilege? during M01 was there Kale privilege? Only privilege I know is who is your father, who are you related to if you are from the house and your family does not even have a teacher who can call a friend in a high place then you don't have a shred of privilege, if you are from the lake and your cousin works at CBK man you have privilege from here to Timbuktu. To Each His Own
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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kayhara wrote:Just asking i was a young lad during the M01 rule, did HOUSE privilege exist then or did it pop up during Kenyatta, die during Moi and resurrect during Kibaki, Does this mean if baba wins we shall have Luo privilege? during M01 was there Kale privilege?
Only privilege I know is who is your father, who are you related to if you are from the house and your family does not even have a teacher who can call a friend in a high place then you don't have a shred of privilege, if you are from the lake and your cousin works at CBK man you have privilege from here to Timbuktu. Kenyatta was homeguardism through and through. If you were a homeguard, you made it. Moi was not a tribalist. The proof is the number of psychophants in his gov't who were spread out in each and every community. There is no single community which did not have a chotara like character. Kibaki was Muthaigaism - Which wasn't that bad when you think about it. We got great projects done by him and his nusu mkate gov't Uhuru is on another level. Uthamakistan is real. I lived through these gov't's and I can assure you that the only comparison to the behavior of Uthamakistan is none of the above. The above are just my personal views and are unlikely to change based on the comments from Uthamakistanians on this forum. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,919
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Lolest! wrote:'Stepping aside' from the big seat will do nyumba a great deal of good.
The ordinary guy in Mareira can set up shop in Siaya without fear unlike now And not vice verse  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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alma1 wrote:kayhara wrote:Just asking i was a young lad during the M01 rule, did HOUSE privilege exist then or did it pop up during Kenyatta, die during Moi and resurrect during Kibaki, Does this mean if baba wins we shall have Luo privilege? during M01 was there Kale privilege?
Only privilege I know is who is your father, who are you related to if you are from the house and your family does not even have a teacher who can call a friend in a high place then you don't have a shred of privilege, if you are from the lake and your cousin works at CBK man you have privilege from here to Timbuktu. Kenyatta was homeguardism through and through. If you were a homeguard, you made it. Moi was not a tribalist. The proof is the number of psychophants in his gov't who were spread out in each and every community. There is no single community which did not have a chotara like character. Kibaki was Muthaigaism - Which wasn't that bad when you think about it. We got great projects done by him and his nusu mkate gov't Uhuru is on another level. Uthamakistan is real. I lived through these gov't's and I can assure you that the only comparison to the behavior of Uthamakistan is none of the above. The above are just my personal views and are unlikely to change based on the comments from Uthamakistanians on this forum. Clearly, you did not know Moi. You would know who filled all the top positions and messengers in government and parastatals. Kenyatta was a homeguard in prison?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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2012 wrote:The sentiments expressed in this thread are the reasons that encourage nyumba people to mobilize the community and vote as a unit to the last wo/man with the perfect precision and efficiency of ants. This is so true. I sometimes pity Kikuyus, and often wonder why the animosity towards them. To the extent that Kalonzo could not help himself, he managed to piss on a NASWA rally, just to disparage Kikuyus ( largely) Take it - UK will win. I am happy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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2012 wrote:alma1 wrote:kayhara wrote:Just asking i was a young lad during the M01 rule, did HOUSE privilege exist then or did it pop up during Kenyatta, die during Moi and resurrect during Kibaki, Does this mean if baba wins we shall have Luo privilege? during M01 was there Kale privilege?
Only privilege I know is who is your father, who are you related to if you are from the house and your family does not even have a teacher who can call a friend in a high place then you don't have a shred of privilege, if you are from the lake and your cousin works at CBK man you have privilege from here to Timbuktu. Kenyatta was homeguardism through and through. If you were a homeguard, you made it. Moi was not a tribalist. The proof is the number of psychophants in his gov't who were spread out in each and every community. There is no single community which did not have a chotara like character. Kibaki was Muthaigaism - Which wasn't that bad when you think about it. We got great projects done by him and his nusu mkate gov't Uhuru is on another level. Uthamakistan is real. I lived through these gov't's and I can assure you that the only comparison to the behavior of Uthamakistan is none of the above. The above are just my personal views and are unlikely to change based on the comments from Uthamakistanians on this forum. Clearly, you did not know Moi. You would know who filled all the top positions and messengers in government and parastatals. Kenyatta was a homeguard in prison? I know it's popular these days for people to try and change history. History doesn't work like that. I saw a post here of someone blaming Raila for the 82 coup. History says otherwise. In fact history says the homeguards in the first gov't tried each and every trick in the book to remove him or simply not have him as president. I am aware of the number of Kaleos in parastatal jobs at his time. But when you really think about it, what was the number of kyuks in the same parastatals? Or before Moi? Numbers, please. Don't forget to add the current gov't. Numbers, please. Moi was a dictator. Calling him a tribalist is minimizing the mess that was created. All current political leaders from Uhuru, Kalonzo, Raila, Ruto, name them are Kanu children. All of the them. Labda Joho, Sonko na Kabogo. This Uthamakistan is a new breed. Bred by the fake notion that Kikuyus were suppressed during Moi's time. Kwani who were Kamotho, Chotara, Kenyatta, Kibaki, Saitoti? Indians? Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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2012 wrote:The sentiments expressed in this thread are the reasons that encourage nyumba people to mobilize the community and vote as a unit to the last wo/man with the perfect precision and efficiency of ants. I once contemplated a kalooser presidency coz he seemed sober enough, then the famous ' your name betrays you' followed by 'lay low like antelopes' all directed at nyumba. Man, that just solidifies nyumba's vote to the man. Normal human behavior for self preservation i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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Masukuma is on point. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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harrydre wrote:2012 wrote:The sentiments expressed in this thread are the reasons that encourage nyumba people to mobilize the community and vote as a unit to the last wo/man with the perfect precision and efficiency of ants. I once contemplated a kalooser presidency coz he seemed sober enough, then the famous ' your name betrays you' followed by 'lay low like antelopes' all directed at nyumba. Man, that just solidifies nyumba's vote to the man. Normal human behavior for self preservation We should be realistic. Kenyans vote on tribal groupings. Uhuru has his grouping and Raila has his. Until we grow up and learn otherwise, may the biggest tribal grouping win overwhelmingly and clearly and we move on. This is the reality. Anyway we could be waste time here, 98% of the voters are already decided. @Harry,That's true about the melon, I know many nyumba people would have preferred him in 2022 over WSR if he spoke to them nicely after all, they're no signs of an emerging candidate from the nyumba for 2022.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Impunity wrote:Masukuma is on point.
That okuyos should lie low like envelopes (antelopes)???
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2014 Posts: 560 Location: Eastlando
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In my veins flows blood from kikuyu, luo and kamba, therefore,i believe i understand these tribes better than most kenyans. A Kikuyu is not arrogant, a kikuyu is uncultured and insensitive but he can help you make millions. A luo on the other hand feels entitled and has pride mostly without substance. A luo will stick with you during difficult moments. A Kamba is normally myopic but very friendly.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Fullykenyan wrote:In my veins flows blood from kikuyu, luo and kamba, therefore,i believe i understand these tribes better than most kenyans. A Kikuyu is not arrogant, a kikuyu is uncultured and insensitive but he can help you make millions. A luo on the other hand feels entitled and has pride mostly without substance. A luo will stick with you during difficult moments. A Kamba is normally myopic but very friendly. Jessso!
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/24/2013 Posts: 455 Location: Nairobi
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אוי אלוהים יסלח לנו על השטויות שלנו
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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hardwood wrote:Impunity wrote:Masukuma is on point.
That okuyos should lie low like envelopes (antelopes)??? Yes.For this election and the coming ones in 20 years! Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/2/2010 Posts: 845
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alma1 wrote:One guy had the audacity to compare Kikuyus to Jews. One guy had the audacity to state how the Kikuyus are chosen by God. One who's a very senior "pastor" has no shame quoting Bible verses and inserting Kikuyu and Raira wherever it suits them. i find this tendency of africans equating themselves to jews to show their superiority to be a special kind of stupid. i dont even know where to begin when i hear such conversations. in many ways, ni kujitukana. the irony seems lost on them that claiming to be a mtumba version of another group is actually an admission of your own inferiority. All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/1/2008 Posts: 1,098
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hardwood wrote:Fullykenyan wrote:In my veins flows blood from kikuyu, luo and kamba, therefore,i believe i understand these tribes better than most kenyans. A Kikuyu is not arrogant, a kikuyu is uncultured and insensitive but he can help you make millions. A luo on the other hand feels entitled and has pride mostly without substance. A luo will stick with you during difficult moments. A Kamba is normally myopic but very friendly. Jessso! 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/1/2008 Posts: 1,098
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Uram wrote:אוי אלוהים יסלח לנו על השטויות שלנו これらのナンセンスは何ですか 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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This is what awaits WSR. Week 1 - Raira Accept and Move on Week 2 Raira accept and move on Week 3 - Kenya wants peace Week 4 - We are all united Week 5 - A certain warthog shall be unleashed Month 6 - Ati who stole land where? By 2020 with Sonko as governor or Mutua surviving Ndeti all shit shall hit the fan. Afadhali Sonko. Please save this post. Go find the WSR charo nefa mbe thread somewhere here. It's just that Ruto nicked the PK governor stories completely. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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Listen guys... this thing is a perception issue... SIKIZENI!! Don't Argue or Justify!! MENE, MENE, TEKEL, PARSIN!! the normal Kyuk guy is really just uncultured... totally insensitive to others but those moves can be seen as arrogant. This is the insensitivity I was arguing with Wamunyota on... it does not need to be real... it just needs to be perceived!! I juzi came to +254 and on the plane there was this Kyuk dude... shouting... (alikuwa amechanganya drinks)... Shouting!! Shouting Kikuyu!! saying Uhuru tano tena or something. Quite the nuisance!! I ignored him!! I rationalized his "excitement" but really... he was totally insensitive to everyone. i know this will not sink in coz they are trying to wonder why it should be someone else's problem... may be it's shouldn't be anyone's problem BUT IT IS!! You don't control other people's feelings using your logic! ukitaka kura zao... reachout and stop looking like a douchbag! In reality - the Rich kikuyu guy is very arrogant!! hao tuwachane nao!! to everyone not just other ethnic groups. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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