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Njung'e wrote:sheri wrote:And Prophet Dr.Owour has endorsed UR If true, he dare not step in Kisumu. Not in this century  But the way Uhuru prayed at Afraha, am sure even the said 'prophet' felt something, we Kenyans are lucky Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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FRM2011 wrote:sheri wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
Dispatch from Nyeri.
It's freezing in Nyeri. Guys here support Uhuru but they don't idolize him. Most locals put it quite bluntly. "Giki no tuiyire" . ".This one unless we rig"
Wahome gakuru was supposed to take the governor by landslide. Well not quite. Wamathai may be unispiring but the youthful githinji (cocorico) and Mathenge thuo (wanguku) have thrown their weight behind him. Throw in pride by Wahome gakuru and the race has been thrown open once more.
Of the 6 MPs, women rep, senator and governor, independents will take at least 4.
@Frm I thought you had all the time to push your propaganda. The narrative of Nyeri vs the others is worse than the tribal narrative you pretend to fight.You cann't fight tribalism with that kind mindset. Propaganda ? Ngai ! Kiambu people supported Kibaki. Did they idolize him ? Hell no. Same with Nyeri folks. They will give Uhuru 99% of the votes. But guess what ? The Luos who do panel beating in town are still here. Because no one in Nyeri takes it emotionally......... Like some unstable people on this forum. What about 2007? Very sad when people style themselves as nationalists but are still engaged in factionalism of how their county/part of tribe is superior.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,280 Location: nairobi
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Amores wrote:FRM2011 wrote:sheri wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
Dispatch from Nyeri.
It's freezing in Nyeri. Guys here support Uhuru but they don't idolize him. Most locals put it quite bluntly. "Giki no tuiyire" . ".This one unless we rig"
Wahome gakuru was supposed to take the governor by landslide. Well not quite. Wamathai may be unispiring but the youthful githinji (cocorico) and Mathenge thuo (wanguku) have thrown their weight behind him. Throw in pride by Wahome gakuru and the race has been thrown open once more.
Of the 6 MPs, women rep, senator and governor, independents will take at least 4.
@Frm I thought you had all the time to push your propaganda. The narrative of Nyeri vs the others is worse than the tribal narrative you pretend to fight.You cann't fight tribalism with that kind mindset. Propaganda ? Ngai ! Kiambu people supported Kibaki. Did they idolize him ? Hell no. Same with Nyeri folks. They will give Uhuru 99% of the votes. But guess what ? The Luos who do panel beating in town are still here. Because no one in Nyeri takes it emotionally......... Like some unstable people on this forum. And this is the level of maturity that's lacking with Railas hooligans. They will burn all businesses belonging to kikuyus once UK is declared winner @Amores really??? your post saddened me COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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obiero wrote:Amores wrote:FRM2011 wrote:sheri wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
Dispatch from Nyeri.
It's freezing in Nyeri. Guys here support Uhuru but they don't idolize him. Most locals put it quite bluntly. "Giki no tuiyire" . ".This one unless we rig"
Wahome gakuru was supposed to take the governor by landslide. Well not quite. Wamathai may be unispiring but the youthful githinji (cocorico) and Mathenge thuo (wanguku) have thrown their weight behind him. Throw in pride by Wahome gakuru and the race has been thrown open once more.
Of the 6 MPs, women rep, senator and governor, independents will take at least 4.
@Frm I thought you had all the time to push your propaganda. The narrative of Nyeri vs the others is worse than the tribal narrative you pretend to fight.You cann't fight tribalism with that kind mindset. Propaganda ? Ngai ! Kiambu people supported Kibaki. Did they idolize him ? Hell no. Same with Nyeri folks. They will give Uhuru 99% of the votes. But guess what ? The Luos who do panel beating in town are still here. Because no one in Nyeri takes it emotionally......... Like some unstable people on this forum. And this is the level of maturity that's lacking with Railas hooligans. They will burn all businesses belonging to kikuyus once UK is declared winner @Amores really??? your post saddened me @obiero, there is a scary mindset with Jubilee supporters on this forum. I am in the village and guys here don't see a big deal with Uhuru or Raila winning.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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All factors considered, UK is still most likely to win. And main ungiving for rao is his character.. In 79-82, when mo1 became pork, he wasn't necessarily a bad guy. Then 82' coup happened. Some say Tinga had a hand. In '94, he fanned a coup in ford k so as to be chairman. It failed
After 97' election, he betrayed opposition and joined KANU. After 02' election, yes kibaki didn't honor mou, but rao failed to see the big picture. He chose to revolt and embarass mzee. Had he remained loyal to kibaki, he would now be president. So there's a history of betrayal people are uncomfortable with. When they say 'kimundu', they mean 'mundu mukoroku' this kind of person, thou not necessarily evil, was loathed from time immemorial. So the reason some people dont vote for rao isnt because of tribe. It's the history of betrayal they have a problem with. And this reaction against such character is a survival instinct. it's inbult, that's why FRM2011 folks will say they don't know why they will vote against rao. Bring musalia or 'rosemary' down the line, when time is ripe or right, youll be surprised at the warm reception
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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limanika wrote:All factors considered, UK is still most likely to win. And main ungiving for rao is his character.. In 79-82, when mo1 became pork, he wasn't necessarily a bad guy. Then 82' coup happened. Some say Tinga had a hand. In '94, he fanned a coup in ford k so as to be chairman. It failed
After 97' election, he betrayed opposition and joined KANU. After 02' election, yes kibaki didn't honor mou, but rao failed to see the big picture. He chose to revolt and embarass mzee. Had he remained loyal to kibaki, he would now be president. So there's a history of betrayal people are uncomfortable with. When they say 'kimundu', they mean 'mundu mukoroku' this kind of person, thou not necessarily evil, was loathed from time immemorial. So the reason some people dont vote for rao isnt because of tribe. It's the history of betrayal they have a problem with. And this reaction against such character is a survival instinct. it's inbult, that's why FRM2011 folks will say they don't know why they will vote against rao. Bring musalia or 'rosemary' down the line, when time is ripe or right, youll be surprised at the warm reception I have marked your post for review on 10th August. Ni hayo tu. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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kaka2za wrote:limanika wrote:All factors considered, UK is still most likely to win. And main ungiving for rao is his character.. In 79-82, when mo1 became pork, he wasn't necessarily a bad guy. Then 82' coup happened. Some say Tinga had a hand. In '94, he fanned a coup in ford k so as to be chairman. It failed
After 97' election, he betrayed opposition and joined KANU. After 02' election, yes kibaki didn't honor mou, but rao failed to see the big picture. He chose to revolt and embarass mzee. Had he remained loyal to kibaki, he would now be president. So there's a history of betrayal people are uncomfortable with. When they say 'kimundu', they mean 'mundu mukoroku' this kind of person, thou not necessarily evil, was loathed from time immemorial. So the reason some people dont vote for rao isnt because of tribe. It's the history of betrayal they have a problem with. And this reaction against such character is a survival instinct. it's inbult, that's why FRM2011 folks will say they don't know why they will vote against rao. Bring musalia or 'rosemary' down the line, when time is ripe or right, youll be surprised at the warm reception I have marked your post for review on 10th August. Ni hayo tu. No need to, it's never that serious. The election can still go either way, and not one man has full control. I was only trying to deconstruct 'raila phobia'. Not to mean that I subscribe to that line of thought necessarily
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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kaka2za wrote:limanika wrote:All factors considered, UK is still most likely to win. And main ungiving for rao is his character.. In 79-82, when mo1 became pork, he wasn't necessarily a bad guy. Then 82' coup happened. Some say Tinga had a hand. In '94, he fanned a coup in ford k so as to be chairman. It failed
After 97' election, he betrayed opposition and joined KANU. After 02' election, yes kibaki didn't honor mou, but rao failed to see the big picture. He chose to revolt and embarass mzee. Had he remained loyal to kibaki, he would now be president. So there's a history of betrayal people are uncomfortable with. When they say 'kimundu', they mean 'mundu mukoroku' this kind of person, thou not necessarily evil, was loathed from time immemorial. So the reason some people dont vote for rao isnt because of tribe. It's the history of betrayal they have a problem with. And this reaction against such character is a survival instinct. it's inbult, that's why FRM2011 folks will say they don't know why they will vote against rao. Bring musalia or 'rosemary' down the line, when time is ripe or right, youll be surprised at the warm reception I have marked your post for review on 10th August. Ni hayo tu. I expect continuity I hope 8-8 will just be another short holiday and then we go back to normal business,Hope IEBC will deliver a result that is hard to dispute . To Each His Own
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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FRM2011 wrote:obiero wrote:Amores wrote:FRM2011 wrote:sheri wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
Dispatch from Nyeri.
It's freezing in Nyeri. Guys here support Uhuru but they don't idolize him. Most locals put it quite bluntly. "Giki no tuiyire" . ".This one unless we rig"
Wahome gakuru was supposed to take the governor by landslide. Well not quite. Wamathai may be unispiring but the youthful githinji (cocorico) and Mathenge thuo (wanguku) have thrown their weight behind him. Throw in pride by Wahome gakuru and the race has been thrown open once more.
Of the 6 MPs, women rep, senator and governor, independents will take at least 4.
@Frm I thought you had all the time to push your propaganda. The narrative of Nyeri vs the others is worse than the tribal narrative you pretend to fight.You cann't fight tribalism with that kind mindset. Propaganda ? Ngai ! Kiambu people supported Kibaki. Did they idolize him ? Hell no. Same with Nyeri folks. They will give Uhuru 99% of the votes. But guess what ? The Luos who do panel beating in town are still here. Because no one in Nyeri takes it emotionally......... Like some unstable people on this forum. And this is the level of maturity that's lacking with Railas hooligans. They will burn all businesses belonging to kikuyus once UK is declared winner @Amores really??? your post saddened me @obiero, there is a scary mindset with Jubilee supporters on this forum. I am in the village and guys here don't see a big deal with Uhuru or Raila winning. @ Obiero, the question that you need to ask yourself is, if there is precedence set on such behavior, and the answer is an emphatic YES...Then you will realise it has nothing to do with @ FRM is insinuating here, trying to intimated people using useless phrases such as " mind set of jubilee supporters", there is no collective mindset of Jubilee supporters. I just used his own "admiration" of people of Nyeri, to say that if that is indeed the case,a large majority RAO supporters could help themselves ( and the country) if they exhibited the same tendencies or mindset. I am happy
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