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obiero
#801 Posted : Thursday, June 22, 2017 2:39:40 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance.

@ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani??


the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51%
2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000
3.Equity over assets ratio of 92%
Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me.

Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago
one thing that's certain is that there's uncertainty at the NSE and stocks hate uncertainty
Angelica _ann
#802 Posted : Thursday, June 22, 2017 2:41:48 PM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 7,555
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance.

@ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani??


the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51%
2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000
3.Equity over assets ratio of 92%
Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me.

Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago


It was suspended for other reasons......... smile smile smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
obiero
#803 Posted : Thursday, June 22, 2017 2:43:27 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 7,116
Location: nairobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance.

@ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani??


the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51%
2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000
3.Equity over assets ratio of 92%
Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me.

Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago


It was suspended for other reasons......... smile smile smile

@angel that deal was suspect.. meanwhile we have Chinese fizz being brought in for the beverages.. It's not looking pretty. But to each his/her own
one thing that's certain is that there's uncertainty at the NSE and stocks hate uncertainty
Ebenyo
#804 Posted : Thursday, June 22, 2017 3:49:59 PM
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Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 927
Location: Kitale
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance.

@ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani??


the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51%
2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000
3.Equity over assets ratio of 92%
Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me.

Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago


It was suspended for other reasons......... smile smile smile


BOC wanted to buy out carbacid.The cma must have suspected some fishy dealings.
1.Cut down on expenses2.Save a portion of the income 3.Invest heavily
VituVingiSana
#805 Posted : Thursday, June 22, 2017 4:03:28 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 13,306
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
bartum wrote:
@obiero ksh 38b from where

The middle east

Liar. Most of the money is coming from long-suffering KENYAN taxpayers [& perhaps some from KLM and IFC].
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#806 Posted : Thursday, June 22, 2017 4:05:13 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 13,306
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance.

@ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani??


the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51%
2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000
3.Equity over assets ratio of 92%
Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me.

Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago

Liar Liar Liar Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you The shares were suspended from trading coz of the BOC offer to buy Carbacid not coz of any funny business.

Shares that should be suspended from trading include all those with NEGATIVE equity and making losses for 5 years.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ebenyo
#807 Posted : Thursday, June 22, 2017 4:28:38 PM
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Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 927
Location: Kitale
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance.

@ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani??


the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51%
2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000
3.Equity over assets ratio of 92%
Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me.

Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago

Liar Liar Liar Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you The shares were suspended from trading coz of the BOC offer to buy Carbacid not coz of any funny business.

Shares that should be suspended from trading include all those with NEGATIVE equity and making losses for 5 years.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
1.Cut down on expenses2.Save a portion of the income 3.Invest heavily
obiero
#808 Posted : Thursday, June 22, 2017 4:37:34 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 7,116
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
bartum wrote:
@obiero ksh 38b from where

The middle east

Liar. Most of the money is coming from long-suffering KENYAN taxpayers [& perhaps some from KLM and IFC].

Hehe.. It wasn't meant to be.. But when in need of cash, any source will do. Money is money
one thing that's certain is that there's uncertainty at the NSE and stocks hate uncertainty
winmak
#809 Posted : Thursday, June 22, 2017 4:44:24 PM
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Joined: 12/1/2007
Posts: 233
Location: Nakuru
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance.

@ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani??


the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51%
2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000
3.Equity over assets ratio of 92%
Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me.

Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago

Liar Liar Liar Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you The shares were suspended from trading coz of the BOC offer to buy Carbacid not coz of any funny business.

Shares that should be suspended from trading include all those with NEGATIVE equity and making losses for 5 years.



Hehehe VVS can really hit (someone) below the belt...
For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
sparkly
#810 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 6:04:46 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 5,554
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Ebenyo wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance.

@ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani??


the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51%
2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000
3.Equity over assets ratio of 92%
Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me.

Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago


It was suspended for other reasons......... smile smile smile


BOC wanted to buy out carbacid.The cma must have suspected some fishy dealings.


BOC wanted to buy out Carbacid. Matiba refused to sell his 22% holding to BOC.

CMA refused to approve the takeover since it wasn't supported by 90% of the shareholding.

The wrangles led to court cases, Matiba thrown out of Carbacid Board. CMA suspended both BOC and Carbacid.

Matiba privately sold his stake to Centum.

BOC dropped the takeover bid and suspensions were lifted.
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#811 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 7:10:52 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 7,116
Location: nairobi
winmak wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance.

@ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani??


the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51%
2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000
3.Equity over assets ratio of 92%
Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me.

Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago

Liar Liar Liar Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you The shares were suspended from trading coz of the BOC offer to buy Carbacid not coz of any funny business.

Shares that should be suspended from trading include all those with NEGATIVE equity and making losses for 5 years.



Hehehe VVS can really hit (someone) below the belt...

Even you @vvs have negative equity.. It's really not that a big deal, plus we now look forward.. We cannot judge a 41 year old entity by 5 years only..
one thing that's certain is that there's uncertainty at the NSE and stocks hate uncertainty
VituVingiSana
#812 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 11:41:27 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 13,306
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
winmak wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance.

@ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani??


the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51%
2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000
3.Equity over assets ratio of 92%
Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me.

Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago

Liar Liar Liar Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you The shares were suspended from trading coz of the BOC offer to buy Carbacid not coz of any funny business.

Shares that should be suspended from trading include all those with NEGATIVE equity and making losses for 5 years.



Hehehe VVS can really hit (someone) below the belt...

Even you @vvs have negative equity.. It's really not that a big deal, plus we now look forward.. We cannot judge a 41 year old entity by 5 years only..

Negative Equity = Bankrupt
The only reason KQ hasn't been liquidated is the pressure from GoK on the banks not to do so. A (local bank) banker told me that CBK hasn't forced them to write-off [100% NPLs] the loans to KQ coz of the implicit guarantee of GoK. Under CBK's prudential guidelines, loans to KQ [just as Uchumi] would have been considered "bad debts" since KQ's financial statements were qualified, huge losses for 5 years, negative equity and worsening debt:equity ratios.

Anyway, let me stick with my "boring yet profitable" KK, KenRe, DTK and I&M. Even Unga [possible loss for 2016-17] has assets > liabilities despite the drama with the drought, maize shortages and Nakumatt [bad debts].
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Mkondoa Macho
#813 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 12:17:11 PM
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Joined: 2/7/2016
Posts: 78
Location: Home
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
winmak wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance.

@ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani??


the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51%
2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000
3.Equity over assets ratio of 92%
Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me.

Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago

Liar Liar Liar Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you The shares were suspended from trading coz of the BOC offer to buy Carbacid not coz of any funny business.

Shares that should be suspended from trading include all those with NEGATIVE equity and making losses for 5 years.



Hehehe VVS can really hit (someone) below the belt...

Even you @vvs have negative equity.. It's really not that a big deal, plus we now look forward.. We cannot judge a 41 year old entity by 5 years only..

Negative Equity = Bankrupt
The only reason KQ hasn't been liquidated is the pressure from GoK on the banks not to do so. A (local bank) banker told me that CBK hasn't forced them to write-off [100% NPLs] the loans to KQ coz of the implicit guarantee of GoK. Under CBK's prudential guidelines, loans to KQ [just as Uchumi] would have been considered "bad debts" since KQ's financial statements were qualified, huge losses for 5 years, negative equity and worsening debt:equity ratios.

Anyway, let me stick with my "boring yet profitable" KK, KenRe, DTK and I&M. Even Unga [possible loss for 2016-17] has assets > liabilities despite the drama with the drought, maize shortages and Nakumatt [bad debts].

Explain your rationale for i&m???
obiero
#814 Posted : Saturday, August 05, 2017 8:27:44 PM
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stocks to trade with eyes wide open 05.08.17: barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, centum, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, i&m, kapch, keno, kenre, kurwitu, kq, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, scbk, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, unga, umeme
one thing that's certain is that there's uncertainty at the NSE and stocks hate uncertainty
Spikes
#815 Posted : Sunday, August 06, 2017 8:20:53 AM
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Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 1,970
obiero wrote:
stocks to trade with eyes wide open 05.08.17: barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, centum, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, i&m, kapch, keno, kenre, kurwitu, kq, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, scbk, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, unga, umeme


@obiero Why kenol (KK)?
John 1:46 "Nazareth! Can anything good come from there?" Nathaniel asked ."Come and see," said Philip.
obiero
#816 Posted : Sunday, August 06, 2017 10:31:34 AM
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Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
stocks to trade with eyes wide open 05.08.17: barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, centum, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, i&m, kapch, keno, kenre, kurwitu, kq, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, scbk, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, unga, umeme


@obiero Why kenol (KK)?

@spikes volatility in trades in the recent few months with large peaks and troughs. Unless one has inside knowledge, one may be left swimming naked
one thing that's certain is that there's uncertainty at the NSE and stocks hate uncertainty
obiero
#817 Posted : Wednesday, August 30, 2017 5:56:10 PM
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obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
stocks to trade with eyes wide open 05.08.17: barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, centum, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, i&m, kapch, keno, kenre, kurwitu, kq, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, scbk, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, unga, umeme


@obiero Why kenol (KK)?

@spikes volatility in trades in the recent few months with large peaks and troughs. Unless one has inside knowledge, one may be left swimming naked

Deacons down http://www.businessdaily...76716-ioe1esz/index.html
one thing that's certain is that there's uncertainty at the NSE and stocks hate uncertainty
xxxxx
#818 Posted : Wednesday, August 30, 2017 10:49:27 PM
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obiero wrote:
stocks to trade with eyes wide open 05.08.17: barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, centum, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, i&m, kapch, keno, kenre, kurwitu, kq, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, scbk, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, unga, umeme


You should include ARMCEMENT in this list.


muandiwambeu
#819 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:24:24 PM
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xxxxx wrote:
obiero wrote:
stocks to trade with eyes wide open 05.08.17: barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, centum, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, i&m, kapch, keno, kenre, kurwitu, kq, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, scbk, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, unga, umeme


You should include ARMCEMENT in this list.



Not everything goes@xyz, Y arm?Sad Sad
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#820 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 2:06:09 PM
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