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VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 03, 2017 9:38:53 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
So @miennyma - KK could have had almost 1.8bn in PAT [300mn KPRL + 300mn Pangani]
There may be a KPRL amount left to write-off in 2H but it looks good!
FY EPS even with the write-offs could exceed 2/-.

If GoK settles the KPRL yield shift losses for the industry after the elections or in 2018-19, then that's just extra cream on the cake! Total has sued GoK/KPRL, KPRL has tanks/land it can sell to KPC and the industry will pressurize KPRL/GoK to settle this.

Doesn't KPC also owe KK 6bn+ awarded to KK in an arbitration? This matter is slowly winding itself through the courts. Perhaps another 2 years?


Excellent performance. An eps of 2.00 will definitely translate to 20 bob per share. We've been patient and the rewards keep coming

Perhaps a takeover? [Though I am happy with the current status too!]
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Ericsson
#12 Posted : Thursday, August 03, 2017 10:26:25 AM
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KK should do an acquisition of an oil firm rival.They are doing well and the owners reaping benefits.
Don't see the need of the owners selling the business.
David Ohana is doing a good job
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mlennyma
#13 Posted : Thursday, August 03, 2017 11:42:01 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
KK should do an acquisition of an oil firm rival.They are doing well and the owners reaping benefits.
Don't see the need of the owners selling the business.
David Ohana is doing a good job

He is the top earning CEO in kenya. .not even safaricom
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winston
#14 Posted : Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:46:22 PM
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Kudos...almost doubling top line!
Gatheuzi
#15 Posted : Thursday, August 03, 2017 8:44:36 PM
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winston wrote:
Kudos...almost doubling top line!

Topline has more to do with rise in oil prices, though volumes could also be up.
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winston
#16 Posted : Friday, August 04, 2017 9:12:02 AM
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Gatheuzi wrote:
winston wrote:
Kudos...almost doubling top line!

Topline has more to do with rise in oil prices, though volumes could also be up.


True...if prices didnt double...then they also grew volumes
h2s
#17 Posted : Friday, August 04, 2017 10:34:19 AM
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mlennyma
#18 Posted : Friday, August 04, 2017 2:30:02 PM
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This story sounds like a puma condition
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winston
#19 Posted : Friday, August 04, 2017 2:39:20 PM
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mlennyma wrote:

This story sounds like a puma condition


What about the other side of the story 'The KPRL made a counterclaim of Sh1.2 billion from the oil marketer for allegedly defaulting on payment for petroleum products, leading to a stalemate'

Did KPRL also writeoff?
VituVingiSana
#20 Posted : Friday, August 04, 2017 2:48:44 PM
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winston wrote:
mlennyma wrote:

This story sounds like a puma condition


What about the other side of the story 'The KPRL made a counterclaim of Sh1.2 billion from the oil marketer for allegedly defaulting on payment for petroleum products, leading to a stalemate'

Did KPRL also writeoff?

A write-off by KK doesn't mean they have given up on the claim from KPRL. They are cleaning the books but I expect a global settlement to happen in the future and KK will "write-back" the amount.

As for KPRL's claim, if they succeed then they can offset it vs what they owe KK.
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