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Gunmen invade DP's Sugoi home
Angelica _ann
#81 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 1:49:26 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
How did this end? Ama we moved on.....


We did. We were requested by @fyatu not to invest too many emotions in this animal called nane nane.


They threw the squirrel on our path and we forgot the antelope.
SAD COUNTRY.
Sad


Kumbe this was just a mari kwa mari jamaa with all those theories that had been advanced in this thread. d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
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Coolio
#82 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 6:22:27 PM
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I've read through the comments but #70 has got a clue. #Helmeton
Nadondosha meli kubwa seuze ngalawa!
hardwood
#83 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 7:24:13 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
How did this end? Ama we moved on.....


We did. We were requested by @fyatu not to invest too many emotions in this animal called nane nane.


They threw the squirrel on our path and we forgot the antelope.
SAD COUNTRY.
Sad


Kumbe this was just a mari kwa mari jamaa with all those theories that had been advanced in this thread. d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!


He was an undercover alshabab. The organisation assigned him the role of "hawker" in sugoi so as to infiltrate "the other side". Which hawker attacks the police, disarms them, takes their AK47 machine gun and clothes, and wears them, and then engages in an 18hr battle with the security forces?
Tokyo
#84 Posted : Wednesday, August 02, 2017 11:47:58 AM
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Alshabab it is
work to prosper
AlphDoti
#85 Posted : Wednesday, August 02, 2017 12:31:48 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
Flo-ology wrote:
Note how Njung'e and Much know how have gone quiet... Let me also throw in another dimension for those who love to speculate : A panga cannot shoot, why was Recce Squad and police helicopter called and the place cordoned off? What was the helicopter carrying ? I am sure people will start asking these questions

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Poor man!smile Sorry, i have been on the road. Watch out, there is much you will not be told but as it stands, 3 attackers dead and one guy arrested but critically injured.

@guka, you know what you're pushing is a lie... and you keep insisting...
AlphDoti
#86 Posted : Wednesday, August 02, 2017 12:42:53 PM
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alma1 wrote:
This is now a more logical explanation. The media should be ashamed. The broggers are being paid and harlots have no shame.

Watu walipe deni jameni.


This is now the truth. Yes, this is a known hawker, not a new person in the village. Yes, he is was a Somali decent, many of them live among kales in almost all centers, for decades, so forget al-shabaab story. yes, the guy has sold several items to the said soldier up to about 10K in credit. So the man had been demanding his money in vain... now people think the soldier had become rude and rough to the man demanding his money... Eventually I think he decided to katakata this soldier.

What happened is, he approached the soldier as usual demandidng his money, then attacked him with panga and snatched away a pistol which he used to shoot the soja. Then took cover in the nearby shelter which happened to be armory setup near soldiers house...

The rest is history...

We cannot be showed the CCTV because of obvious reasons. It will embarrass the security team who had become reckless and lax in their job, failing to search every person visiting the DP home, even if it is known persons or relative or neighbour...
Much Know
#87 Posted : Wednesday, August 02, 2017 12:56:22 PM
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Tokyo wrote:
Alshabab it is

Sad
Ras Kienyeji Man
Nandwa
#88 Posted : Wednesday, August 02, 2017 7:32:28 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
alma1 wrote:
This is now a more logical explanation. The media should be ashamed. The broggers are being paid and harlots have no shame.

Watu walipe deni jameni.


This is now the truth. Yes, this is a known hawker, not a new person in the village. Yes, he is was a Somali decent, many of them live among kales in almost all centers, for decades, so forget al-shabaab story. yes, the guy has sold several items to the said soldier up to about 10K in credit. So the man had been demanding his money in vain... now people think the soldier had become rude and rough to the man demanding his money... Eventually I think he decided to katakata this soldier.

What happened is, he approached the soldier as usual demandidng his money, then attacked him with panga and snatched away a pistol which he used to shoot the soja. Then took cover in the nearby shelter which happened to be armory setup near soldiers house...

The rest is history...

We cannot be showed the CCTV because of obvious reasons. It will embarrass the security team who had become reckless and lax in their job, failing to search every person visiting the DP home, even if it is known persons or relative or neighbour...

Why this attempt to clean up for a guy whose ways and conduct point to a terrorist intents and mission.
Other hawkers, the genuine Somali hawkers spoke of his mysterious nature.
An average hawker can hold a contigent of trained officers for such a period - 18hours.
Police reported that he was firing different weapons to give an impression that they were many!
An average hawker can not attack two police officers and succeed in killing one and injuring another, and manage to slip away.
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
AlphDoti
#89 Posted : Wednesday, August 02, 2017 7:50:10 PM
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Nandwa wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
alma1 wrote:
This is now a more logical explanation. The media should be ashamed. The broggers are being paid and harlots have no shame.

Watu walipe deni jameni.


This is now the truth. Yes, this is a known hawker, not a new person in the village. Yes, he is was a Somali decent, many of them live among kales in almost all centers, for decades, so forget al-shabaab story. yes, the guy has sold several items to the said soldier up to about 10K in credit. So the man had been demanding his money in vain... now people think the soldier had become rude and rough to the man demanding his money... Eventually I think he decided to katakata this soldier.

What happened is, he approached the soldier as usual demandidng his money, then attacked him with panga and snatched away a pistol which he used to shoot the soja. Then took cover in the nearby shelter which happened to be armory setup near soldiers house...

The rest is history...

We cannot be showed the CCTV because of obvious reasons. It will embarrass the security team who had become reckless and lax in their job, failing to search every person visiting the DP home, even if it is known persons or relative or neighbour...

Why this attempt to clean up for a guy whose ways and conduct point to a terrorist intents and mission.
Other hawkers, the genuine Somali hawkers spoke of his mysterious nature.
An average hawker can hold a contigent of trained officers for such a period - 18hours.
Police reported that he was firing different weapons to give an impression that they were many!
An average hawker can not attack two police officers and succeed in killing one and injuring another, and manage to slip away.

About him being able to hold for that long, I don't know, your guess is as good as mine, maybe since he took refuge in the armory, the contingent needed to be careful not to cause destruction...

And yes he was well known by the locals. He didn't settle in the local center recently... He was a long time hawker.

And yes, the soja had a debt with him...

Lastly, his behaviour was strange of course, and was not warranted.

And you can believe what you want. I'm just telling you what the locals knew about him. Anything else would be guess work.
Nandwa
#90 Posted : Wednesday, August 02, 2017 7:59:49 PM
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Joined: 11/17/2009
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AlphDoti wrote:
Nandwa wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
alma1 wrote:
This is now a more logical explanation. The media should be ashamed. The broggers are being paid and harlots have no shame.

Watu walipe deni jameni.


This is now the truth. Yes, this is a known hawker, not a new person in the village. Yes, he is was a Somali decent, many of them live among kales in almost all centers, for decades, so forget al-shabaab story. yes, the guy has sold several items to the said soldier up to about 10K in credit. So the man had been demanding his money in vain... now people think the soldier had become rude and rough to the man demanding his money... Eventually I think he decided to katakata this soldier.

What happened is, he approached the soldier as usual demandidng his money, then attacked him with panga and snatched away a pistol which he used to shoot the soja. Then took cover in the nearby shelter which happened to be armory setup near soldiers house...

The rest is history...

We cannot be showed the CCTV because of obvious reasons. It will embarrass the security team who had become reckless and lax in their job, failing to search every person visiting the DP home, even if it is known persons or relative or neighbour...

Why this attempt to clean up for a guy whose ways and conduct point to a terrorist intents and mission.
Other hawkers, the genuine Somali hawkers spoke of his mysterious nature.
An average hawker can hold a contigent of trained officers for such a period - 18hours.
Police reported that he was firing different weapons to give an impression that they were many!
An average hawker can not attack two police officers and succeed in killing one and injuring another, and manage to slip away.

About him being able to hold for that long, I don't know, your guess is as good as mine, maybe since he took refuge in the armory, the contingent needed to be careful not to cause destruction...

And yes he was well known by the locals. He didn't settle in the local center recently... He was a long time hawker.

And yes, the soja had a debt with him...

Lastly, his behaviour was strange of course, and was not warranted.

And you can believe what you want. I'm just telling you what the locals knew about him. Anything else would be guess work.

He is said to have appeared on the scene around the time of Ramadhan!! So that is the way and the time that 'they knew him'!
Those said to have known him say that he was mysterious
Infact at least one of them is said to have reported even before this incident, that they were suspicious of him!

I wonder why you feel that you need to clean for him!!!!!!!
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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