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IEBC ICT manager Chris Msando found dead
Ngalaka
#101 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 11:26:31 AM
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The sooner the murderers of Msando are brought to book the better.

Given the timing of his death and the pivotal role he played in preparations for the elections, it makes it natural for people to wonder if his death and the forth coming elections have a direct link.

To ask such question shouldn’t be a problem, but to present ones opinions/observations as the truth and only truth is problematic. Equally, being too pessimistic and dismissive of everything from those that one perceives as not (fully/halfway/at all) sharing in one’s political persuasion, regardless, reduces you to a robot, pushing in one direction as programmed by the puppeteers.

All in all, as people who live in a free country, a free world, we must ask question, but ask them responsibly.

In that spirit, I wish to do my part – based on the info available as reported in the media;

Chris Msando had expressed misgivings about his security and reported as much with the police – who had he cited as the person(s) after his life?

Chebukati held a short press briefing at the mortuary yesterday 31.07.17 in which he said Musando was THE corner stone of IEBC ICT program.

In the preceding days Msando had become a regular guest at media houses to expound on IEBC position and preparedness. He had effectively become the face of IEBC ICT dept to the media and by extension the public.

Apparently Msando had a boss in ICT dept – one James Muhato whose designation in IEBC is - ICT director.

Msando is reported to have left his office at IEBC on Friday at about 10pm. Thereafter in the course of the night he is reported to have been driving around Nairobi, at some point with passenger(s) in his car. He was the one driving!

At some points he would stop the car and get out to talk on phone!

At about 3AM he was spotted on Thika road driving with three passengers on board – a 'heavy-set' female on the co-driver seat while two young men sat at the back.
- So who are these passengers and what can they tell us.

- Who parked the car where it was finally found. If Msando parked his car there where did he go after that. Did he walk to a house or did he get into another vehicle?

- What/how was his working relationship with his bosses like?
- Was there any form of an orchestrated tag of war inside IEBC fomented/engineered from outside of the electoral body - by political players?

- In the intervening period has he been called or called any political players and or their surrogates/advisers/cohorts/associates/hang-arounds/persons-with-direct interest in 8.8.17.

- Might he have known any of his IEBC colleagues so involved!

One would expect that Msando shared info regarding the fear for his life with his family members, colleagues at work and close friends – what can these people tell us.

What can be gleaned from his phone call log and other communication traffic to and from his line(s) such as text messages etc in the period preceding his death.
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maka
#102 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 11:29:29 AM
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Bigchick wrote:
Swenani wrote:
NASA claims Joseph Owuoth the kdf spokesman is missing



If true very sad.If NOT then I will conclude NASA has something to do with Chris.Aim being to create tension.


Do you know who reported him missing? Let me help you on that...the family.
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Gathige
#103 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 11:33:27 AM
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RIP Chris

Some Jobs are just too risky, you do them and you are literally a dead man walking.
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Nandwa
#104 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 11:33:44 AM
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Swenani wrote:
NASA claims Joseph Owuoth the kdf spokesman is missing

A link would do.
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
muganda
#105 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 11:43:56 AM
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Nandwa wrote:
Swenani wrote:
NASA claims Joseph Owuoth the kdf spokesman is missing

A link would do.


Quote:
According to Mr Nyong'o, Owuoth was sent on a compulsory leave after confirming the authenticity of documents on operation Dumisha Utulivu released by NASA flag bearer Raila Odinga.

http://www.plive.co.ke/news/jos...elections-id7077217.html
madollar
#106 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 11:48:49 AM
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maka wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Swenani wrote:
NASA claims Joseph Owuoth the kdf spokesman is missing



If true very sad.If NOT then I will conclude NASA has something to do with Chris.Aim being to create tension.


Do you know who reported him missing? Let me help you on that...the family.

GetIT411: KDF Spokesman J Owuoth says he is okay and not suspended from duty, minutes after NASA leaders claim he's missing @CapitalFMKenya
Fyatu
#107 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 11:52:42 AM
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Gathige wrote:
RIP Chris

Some Jobs are just too risky, you do them and you are literally a dead man walking.


Just like donning US Marine military fatigue in rural Afganistan....there they say you are a moving target. RIP Chris. Hoping Kenyans get to know the truth soon
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FRM2011
#108 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 11:53:06 AM
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Bigchick wrote:
Have seen some pictures circulating of him and his alledged girlfriend in the bush.Both naked.

Could it be a different thing or thats what the killers want us to think?


Please don't circulate. The killers would want all of us to buy that. Criminals have realized Kenyans are thick. You just need to sneak something in social media and the next minute its gone viral. Nobody asks the common sense questions.

I have read a very interesting thing on twitter. The girl who was first to post pictures of msando's car doesn't even live in Roysambu. So how did she get the photos ? Easy, kiherehere ya social media. Moses Kuria took himself there wanting to be the one who "found" the car.

One minute we were being told it was a woman in his car. Now it turns out the woman was part of his captors (killers ).

Back to my pet subject. How do you activate survival skills when you realize your life expectancy has come down to a few minutes ? There was a matatu driver who once rammed to the gate of GSU headquarters in Ruaraka. The carjackers in the matatu were forced to surrender when the red berrets came out with guns ready.
Njung'e
#109 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 12:12:04 PM
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madollar wrote:
[quote=maka][quote=Bigchick][quote=Swenani]
GetIT411: KDF Spokesman J Owuoth says he is okay and not suspended from duty, minutes after NASA leaders claim he's missing @CapitalFMKenya


Sad Sad To what end was Nyong'o calling a presser to misinform everybody?.He must be feeling rather stupid right now and he should apologize. Jinga sanaSad
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Nandwa
#110 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 12:37:55 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
madollar wrote:
[quote=maka][quote=Bigchick][quote=Swenani]
GetIT411: KDF Spokesman J Owuoth says he is okay and not suspended from duty, minutes after NASA leaders claim he's missing @CapitalFMKenya


Sad Sad To what end was Nyong'o calling a presser to misinform everybody?.He must be feeling rather stupid right now and he should apologize. Jinga sanaSad

There are two sidekicks that RAO has come to place a premium on and will not let go whatever the electorate in their areas think or want.
Orengo and Nyongo.

Have you noticed it is Orengo who is always appointed to represent ODM on nearly all crucial fora - Kiraitu/Orengo committee, NASA Torch bearer chosing committee, Court cases, IEBC matters including the current Bomas of Kenya simulation exercise.... and so on.

The guy doesnt even have to campaign to keep his senatorial seat, RAO has that figured out.

Nyongo is used less and less owing to his health condition, but he is used from time to time nonetheless.
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Njung'e
#111 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 12:54:53 PM
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Nandwa wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
[quote=madollar][quote=maka][quote=Bigchick][quote=Swenani]
GetIT411: KDF Spokesman J Owuoth says he is okay and not suspended from duty, minutes after NASA leaders claim he's missing @CapitalFMKenya


Nyongo is used less and less owing to his health condition, but he is used from time to time nonetheless.


whatever you say but pray, he was being "used" in this instance to attain what?Sad
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#112 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 12:56:40 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
madollar wrote:
[quote=maka][quote=Bigchick][quote=Swenani]
GetIT411: KDF Spokesman J Owuoth says he is okay and not suspended from duty, minutes after NASA leaders claim he's missing @CapitalFMKenya


Sad Sad To what end was Nyong'o calling a presser to misinform everybody?.He must be feeling rather stupid right now and he should apologize. Jinga sanaSad

Better err on the side of caution, the chess game is now moto and pawns are being taken out.
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B.Timer
#113 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 1:03:35 PM
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So, who wants Kenya to burn.
Dunia ni msongamano..
faa
#114 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 1:05:34 PM
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maka wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Swenani wrote:
NASA claims Joseph Owuoth the kdf spokesman is missing



If true very sad.If NOT then I will conclude NASA has something to do with Chris.Aim being to create tension.


Do you know who reported him missing? Let me help you on that...the family.


NASA leaders are prepared to do anything to get in to power or nusu mkate.. can you imagine RAO was in power with Kibaki for 5 years and all he did was to whine and whine and complain including about a toilet.... they are ready to incite some Kenyans foolishly

I hear plans are underway to reject the results and swear Baba,via some high court judges.

Woe to unto them!

kayhara
#115 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 1:07:10 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
madollar wrote:
[quote=maka][quote=Bigchick][quote=Swenani]
GetIT411: KDF Spokesman J Owuoth says he is okay and not suspended from duty, minutes after NASA leaders claim he's missing @CapitalFMKenya


Sad Sad To what end was Nyong'o calling a presser to misinform everybody?.He must be feeling rather stupid right now and he should apologize. Jinga sanaSad

Better err on the side of caution, the chess game is now moto and pawns are being taken out.

I think the family connection between Musando and ODM makes NASA look like they are the one who would benefit from his demise, Nyong'os allegations were just trying to throw that ball to the Jubilee side, add to that the baba claims about kdf involvement in the elections, but it's a huge shame for such a leader to be the source of such news and for the 4 big media houses to echo the same, just stirring up tension and emotions.
To Each His Own
penkon
#116 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 1:13:03 PM
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faa wrote:
maka wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Swenani wrote:
NASA claims Joseph Owuoth the kdf spokesman is missing



If true very sad.If NOT then I will conclude NASA has something to do with Chris.Aim being to create tension.


Do you know who reported him missing? Let me help you on that...the family.


NASA leaders are prepared to do anything to get in to power or nusu mkate.. can you imagine RAO was in power with Kibaki for 5 years and all he did was to whine and whine and complain including about a toilet.... they are ready to incite some Kenyans foolishly

I hear plans are underway to reject the results and swear Baba,via some high court judges.

Woe to unto them!



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“When you are trying to impress people with words, the more you say, the more common you appear, and the less in control. Even if you are saying something banal, it will seem original if you make it vague, open-ended, and sphinx-like. Powerful people impress and intimidate by saying less. The more you say, the more likely you are to say something foolish.”
Njung'e
#117 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 1:25:08 PM
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Politics of VICTIMHOOD........anyway, i am told the victim is ALWAYS morally right,neither RESPONSIBLE nor ACCOUNTABLE and forever entitled to SYMPATHY. Meanwhile, bus fare from Nairobi,Naivasha and Nakuru to Western has more than tripled. Don't we get what we are looking for?. Let's adopt a bus!
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murchr
#118 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 1:28:38 PM
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Lest we forget, this is the coup anniversary. To those who died 35yrs ago, RIP
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murchr
#119 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 1:42:30 PM
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The woman has been identified
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Njung'e
#120 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2017 1:42:37 PM
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The dead girl has been identified as 21 year old Caro Ngumbu from Gachie. She was known to the late for months.
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